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     Ivan Alexander Username: Humancafe Registered: 12-2017 |
Discussion Topic: The Question: Why is there something rather than nothing? (This is material for possible discussions, should people find it interesting.) Posted: 5 March 2017 http://www.humancafe.com/discus/messages/1177/1977.html#POST5826  From the Platonic 5th century BCE, to post modern Existential Nihilism, the question of Nothingness has perplexed thinkers as to why there is something rather than nothing. The simple answer is that something is a negation of non-being, i.e., nothing. But what is Nothing? Therein lies the puzzle to Everything that is, that nothingness must be negated to find an answer. If we imagine a universe that is infinitely inter-connected, a universe of absolute totality of everything, can we imagine the converse, a universe of absolutely nothing? (Mind, this is a mental exercise, a game of 'imagine', but it can be useful.) So imagine this (make believe) image that there is nothing, absolutely nothing. But in this nothingness now has been put the being of three randomly positioned (zero) points. There are three points in nothing, just hanging there in relation to one another. So no one point in nothing has any meaning, except in how it relates to the other two points in nothing. In effect, any point in nothingness has meaning only as it relates, or inter-connects, to the other two points. Therefore, all points are defined by their interrelationship with the other two points, or their (emergent) property as three points together. (This is an example of out of nothing comes something. The zero points in space are ‘nothing’ but their relationship is a ‘something’. That is what all universal reality is made of, those relationships all interrelated to infinity into a universe of something.) That is the new totality of nothing, where these three points are now everything. Imagine further that this simple interrelationship (as shown with three points in nothing) now has the ability to span absolutely everything, all points from here to infinity, in real time (instantaneously, like a super giant computer) and geometrically in four dimensions (three dimensions plus time). So nothing can exist outside this infinity spanning existence of everything. (Mind, we are imagining this.) Now, if all things in nothingness are trapped within this infinitely interrelated web of everything, then something interesting emerges: "Nothing can be what and where it is except as the pressure of everything else has allowed it to be." Think about it a moment. This means every physical item, every being, property of existence, every event, even every person, is within this (Nihilistic) Nothingness exactly as an infinitely interrelated totality of Everything has allowed it to be. (Remember, we are imagining this, a kind of mind trip.) Everything is everything. So where does this go? Can it be a definition of universal reality? We are what we are, and where we are, exactly as the infinity pressure of universal interrelationship allowed us to be. (Remember, two plus one, that it is 'emergent' three.) Except that we also have free will. So this 'free will' is the other emergent factor that redefines our (imaginary) infinite interrelationship. In effect, therefore, what and where we are is contingent on our being in this emergent reality as the pressure of everything (to infinity, in real time) has allowed it to be, plus one, our free will. So think about it: interrelationship is a self-knowing idea; an idea that knows itself and spans infinity; this idea defines life consciousness; therefore an infinitely self-knowing idea is God. So we perhaps do not exist in a vacuum of Nothing. Rather the converse, that we exist in the emergent pressure of Everything, to infinity. But what does that mean? Here is where we can default to discussion, because now there are questions that may not have been obvious before, where questions like The Question, may (not) have answers. But they should warrant discussion. (Discuss) Some points of possible discussion: The idea that everything is inter-connected in an infinite matrix of interrelationship, redefining itself in an emergent universe, has implications in how we make our world, in our works, our art and intellect, how we love, and what in effect makes our civilization. These are the questions open for group discussion: Is this why we have 'something rather than nothing' in our self-consciousness physical existence? Or perhaps all these interrelations cancel out to nothing, so nothing is affected, all being reduced to nihilistic nothingness? That is The Question. IDA For more discussions see: List of discussions | ||
| Ivan Alexander Username: Humancafe Registered: 12-2017 |
Majadiliano ya Mada: Swali: kwa Nini je, kuna kitu badala kuliko kitu chochote? (Hii ni nyenzo kwa ajili ya uwezekano wa majadiliano, lazima watu kupata hiyo ya kuvutia.) Posted: 5 Machi 2017 http://www.humancafe.com/discus/messages/1177/1977.html#POST5826  Kutoka Platonic karne ya 5 KK, baada ya kisasa Existential Nihilism, suala la Nothingness ina wanashangaa thinkers kama kwa nini kuna kitu badala kuliko kitu chochote. Jibu rahisi ni kwamba kitu ni kukanusha ya mashirika yasiyo ya kuwa, yaani, hakuna kitu. Lakini ni nini Kitu? Humo uongo puzzle kwa Kila kitu kwamba ni, kwamba nothingness lazima negated kupata jibu. Kama sisi kufikiria ulimwengu kwamba ni kubwa baina ya kushikamana, ulimwengu wa kabisa ujumla wa kila kitu, unaweza kufikiria kuzungumza, ulimwengu wa kitu kabisa? (Akili, hii ni akili ya zoezi, mchezo wa 'kufikiria', lakini inaweza kuwa na manufaa.) Hivyo kufikiria hii (kufanya kuamini) picha kwamba hakuna kitu, hakuna kitu kabisa. Lakini katika nothingness hii sasa imekuwa kuweka kuwa ya tatu nasibu nafasi nzuri (sifuri) pointi. Kuna pointi tatu katika kitu chochote, tu kunyongwa huko katika uhusiano na mtu mwingine. Hivyo hakuna hatua moja katika kitu ina maana yoyote, ila kwa jinsi inahusiana na wengine wawili pointi katika kitu chochote. Katika athari, hatua yoyote katika nothingness ina maana tu kama inahusiana, au baina unajumuisha, na nyingine mbili pointi. Kwa hiyo, mambo yote yanatokana na zao interrelationship na nyingine mbili pointi, au wao (wanaoibuka) mali kama pointi tatu kwa pamoja. (Huu ni mfano wa nje ya kitu chochote huja kitu. Zero pointi katika nafasi ni 'kitu' lakini uhusiano wao ni 'kitu'. Hiyo ni kwa nini wote ukweli wote ni wa maandishi, mahusiano hayo yote yanayohusiana na infinity katika ulimwengu wa kitu.) Kwamba ni mpya kwa ujumla wa kitu, ambapo hizi pointi tatu sasa kila kitu. Kufikiria zaidi kwamba hii rahisi interrelationship (kama inavyoonekana na pointi tatu katika kitu) sasa ina uwezo wa span kabisa kila kitu, pointi zote kutoka hapa kwa infinity, katika muda halisi (mara moja, kama super giant kompyuta) na geometrically katika nne vipimo (vipimo tatu pamoja na muda). Hivyo hakuna kitu wanaweza zipo nje ya hii infinity guinea kuwepo kwa kila kitu. (Akili, sisi ni kufikiria hii.) Sasa, kama mambo yote katika nothingness ni trapped ndani ya hii kubwa yanayohusiana mtandao wa kila kitu, basi kitu kuvutia anaibuka: "hakuna Kitu inaweza kuwa nini na ni wapi ila kama shinikizo ya kila kitu kingine ina kuruhusiwa kuwa."Fikiria kuhusu hilo sasa. Hii ina maana kila kimwili bidhaa, kila kuwa, mali ya kuwepo, kwa kila tukio, hata kila mtu, ni ndani ya hii (Kuyabatili) Nothingness hasa kama kubwa yanayohusiana ujumla wa Kila kitu ina kuruhusiwa kuwa. (Kumbuka, sisi ni kufikiria hii, aina ya akili ya safari.) Kila kitu ni kila kitu. Hivyo ambapo gani hii kwenda? Je, ni kuwa ufafanuzi wa ukweli wote? Sisi ni nini sisi ni, na ambapo sisi ni, hasa kama infinity shinikizo la universal interrelationship kuruhusiwa sisi kuwa. (Kumbuka, mbili pamoja na moja, kwamba ni 'wanaoibuka' tatu.) Ila kwa kuwa sisi pia kuwa bure. Hivyo hii 'free' ni nyingine wanaoibuka sababu kwamba redefines yetu (imaginary) usio interrelationship. Katika athari, kwa hiyo, nini na ambapo sisi ni contingent juu ya yetu ya kuwa katika hii wanaoibuka ukweli kama shinikizo ya kila kitu (kwa infinity, katika wakati halisi) ina kuruhusiwa kuwa, pamoja na moja, uhuru wetu. Hivyo kufikiri juu yake: interrelationship ni self-kujua wazo, wazo kwamba anajua yenyewe na spans infinity; dhana hii inaelezea maisha ya fahamu, kwa hiyo binafsi kujua wazo ni Mungu. Hivyo sisi pengine hazipo katika utupu wa Kitu. Badala ya kuzungumza, kwamba sisi kuwepo katika wanaoibuka shinikizo ya Kila kitu, kwa infinity. Lakini hiyo ina maana gani? Hapa ni mahali ambapo tunaweza default kwa majadiliano, kwa sababu sasa kuna maswali ambayo inaweza kuwa wazi kabla, ambapo maswali kama Swali, unaweza (si) kuwa na majibu. Lakini wao lazima kibali majadiliano. (Kujadili) IDA |