HYPOTHETICAL ATOMIC MASS AS A GRAVITY AND ENERGY FUNCTION, PER THE AXIOMATIC EQUATION: With Implications for the Pioneers 10 & 11 Acceleration Anomalies.
3 KEYS TO ENERGY
E' = 1/2 Rv^2 x solar irradiance.
SO WHAT IS MASS?
GENERAL RELATIVITY IN A VARIABLE G UNIVERSE?
Erratum: WHY TIMES DISTANCE?
SPECTRAL REDSHIFT IN DEEP SPACE (VS. EARTH MEASURED REDSHIFT) AS A TEST FOR VARIABLE G AND LIGHTSPEED C.
What if lightspeed c is a variable?
MOMENTUM, WHAT IS IT?
Lost Asteroid Anomaly may be a better way to test for a possible gravitational anomaly in the outer solar system, better than comets to test for the same, which may be subject of outgassing.
GRAVITY REDSHIFT AND DOPPLER REDSHIFT MAY BE RELATED?
BLACK HOLES, as posted on the Bad Astronomy forums: Black holes are always at the center of spiral galaxies because they are a function of all the ambient starlight canceling on a point. When this happens, starlight radiant e.m. energy, which keeps extreme high gravity of the spacevacuum in check, is canceled at the galaxy center, releasing in that central point extremely powerful gravity, perhaps the highest it can go. The system is thus balanced between the solar masses of the accretion disk and the extreme galactic center gravity, so the galactic disk remains stable. The radiant solar energy output moderates the gravitational characteristics of the accretion disk, while at the same time feeding the black hole with more ambient energy, implying that the more radiant e.m. energy received by the black hole, the more it grows. The system in this way remains balanced, to be disturbed only through either collision with other galaxies or massive star failures within the accretion disk. It is that simple. This is how it works using the equation where radiant e.m. energy is inversely proportional to the gravitational energy, per the "Axiomatic Equation".
Cheers Ivan,
Core of Supernova Goes Missing, Space.com review of a supernova... but uh oh... no neutron star!
Pioneers 10 & 11 are slowing in the outer solar system. Could this "acceleration towards the sun" measured at about 8x10-8 cm/s2, be at least in part due to signal redshift to and from the distant crafts? How would a redshift of signal affect our perception of where the distance Pioneers are at any one point in time? Consider the following pages by T. Saakkola, where he challenges our understandings of cosmic phsyics, including redshift and gravity:
Dear Anon,
VARIABLE MASS IN VARIABLE G, PER EQUIVALENCE PRINCIPLE
See the same in "Xians and Earthians" debate over kilograms and gravity G.
Summation of some thoughts on variable mass, hypothetically, in a variable G universe.
Axiomatic Equation, Atomic Mass paper re-instated, top of thread.
Have patience Ivan,
Well Ed, I really didn't expect them to embrace an idea, that Newton's G is NOT a universal constant, one that shoots down so much of modern astrophysics that it would be 'suicidal' for them to agree with me. J
Your welcome Ivan
At the time of this writing a major 7.3 magnitude quake occured in the pacific region near the PNG.
BIG BANG BUST? Although widely accepted by astrophysicists and cosmologists as the best theory for the creation of the universe, the big bang model has come under increasingly vocal criticism from scientists concerned about inconsistencies between the theory and astronomical observations, or by concepts that have been used to "fix" the theory so it agrees with those observations.
Ivan,
"The Distribution of Thermal Pressures in the Interstellar Medium from a Survey of C I Fine-Structure Excitation", by Edward B. Jenkins and Todd M. Tripp.
This is the foundation for Mass as a function of both gravity and electromagnetic energy:
1. Planck-deBroglie's quantum: E = hc/l(proton mass) = 9E+16 J
2. Einstein's famous: E = mc^2 = 9E+16 J
3. E' = 1/2 Rv^2 x solar irradiance = 9.07E+16 J
In deBroglie's, (proton mass) = 1.67E-27 kg, and Einstein's, mass = 1 kg, both sides of the equation balance, with a new mass axiom: m = 1.
This developmental work reflects discussions made on this and other forums. To all thank you.
Copyright protected (©12-31-2004), 'fair use' allows for this material to be used for educational and illustration purposes, if not for commercial applications.
Ivan D. Alexander
By Ivan A. on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 04:47 pm:
This is an illusration, as per paper on Atomic Mass above:
This was derived in the following manner:
GM = Rv^2 , per Newton's orbital equation
GMm/ R = mv^2 , per above with m included
1/2 GMm/R = 1/2 mv^2 , per above with 1/2 included, where:
1/2 mv^2 = KE , kinetic energy
removing the m, putting R back on right
1/2 GM = 1/2 Rv^2
as a variation of Newton's orbital, including 'solar irradiance' in Watts/m^2, the equation becomes as used in Atomic Mass paper above:
E' = solar irradiance x 1/2 Rv^2 = J/s/m
where R is planet distance from Sun, v^2 is planet's velocity squared (both in kilometers), times solar irradiance.
This relationship between solar irradiance, distance, and planet velocity gives us the computed Energy values for each planet. The equation can also be written as:
E' = solar irradiance x 1/2 GM
where G is Newton's constant as measured on Earth (at 1 AU) and M is solar mass, which yields the same E', as per above. The resulting proton/hydrogen mass for each E' level is then used to generate the Newton's G for each planet orbital region, as per Axiomatic Equation. The variable Newton's G 'proportional' is different for each planet, growing at the linear rate of (delta) G = ~7.24E-11 Nm^2 kg^-2 (m^3 kg^-1 s^-2) per AU, so that it approximates G x AU = G' for each planet.
Not a proof, only an illustration how solar irradiance was used to determine E' and G' for each planet, where the results are in E'/E or G'/G, and where on Earth these ratios are equal to one.
Ivan
By Ivan A. on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 02:23 am:
There is a common perception that mass is matter. In Einstein's famous equation:
E = mc^2
mass is a kilogram of matter which when converted into energy equals E = 90 petajoules, or 9x10^16 joules.
In the right side of the Axiomatic Equation this was modified to where m = 1, so that:
E = (1-g)c^2 = 9c10^16 joules, where g is the proton gravitational constant.
This leads to confusion over what mass really represents, which in the modified equation it is a number of unity, of kg/kg, which represents the energy portion of mass, and in (1-g) it is the energy unity minus its proton gravitational constant. It is this constant that times c^2 and pi^2 becomes the basis for conversion into Newton's G gravitational 'constant'. However, this still does not answer the question fully.
What mass represents in this new way of understanding it, as m = 1, is a totality of energy and gravity. What this means is that when radiant energy is present in full, mass is totally expressed as a function of energy (1-0); but if radiant energy is lacking, then the gravitational constant grows. In effect, when there is absolutely no radiant energy, then mass is expressed as (1-1), where it becomes zero. This in fact never happens because of background microwave energy, so that mass is never zero but always some value above that. But this is only as a function of radiant energy; where the difference between Einstein's mass and the Axiomatic's mass lies is that when radiant energy is lacking, because this equation is an expression E, then gravitational mass takes over completely, and E drops off to zero. Again, this is not likely since there is always some radiant energy present in the universe.
So in the new way of understanding mass, it is both a function of radiant energy and of gravity, where the two interact and are thus inversely proportional. This is what the Axiomatic Equation says, that more energy means less gravity; less energy means more gravity, which is then expressed into Newton's G as a variable inversely proportional to solar energy flux. Conceptually, it is no different from Einstein's famous equation's mass, except that there is an internal factor that breaks it up into the dual function that represent mass: radiant energy and gravity.
So taking one kilogram of mass in the common usage, matter of one kilogram as measured either gravitationally or as a function of force, it actually represents atoms and molecules assembled, on Earth at least, as very light gravitationally but very rich energetically. The result is a matter that has a gravitational cum inertial mass equal to one kilogram. In the Axiomatic's interpretation of this mass, the matter has either more or less energy in it, but then inversely either less or more gravity in it. What results is that the totality of the two always amount to one, where m = 1. And the kg/kg represents either the energetic kilograms, or the gravitational kilograms. This is also exemplified in how E/c^2 = m = 1, where E is the energetic radiance, while c^2 represents total gravity, where divided by each other results in the unity of mass.
Finally, one kilogram of matter to convert into E = 9x10^16 joules, is the same kilogram if it was its inverse, where c^2 = 8x10^16 joules. The two are equal, and it is their interaction dependent upon the value of E that then determines whether mass is a unity that is all energy, or some lesser value that gives more rise to gravity, or totally gravity if energy is totally absent. The mass is still m = 1, but in a low energy environment, more of it is gravitational in nature, while less of it is energetic in nature. In an environment such as deep space where energy is low, the gravitational portion of mass as gravity outweighs it as energy, but it is still one kilogram. Except now, one kilogram is represented by a higher gravitational mass than energetic mass. We must remember that Einstein's equation is an Energy equation, and so it remains in the Axiomatic, which is not a gravitational equation.**(see gravity equation below) So mass is either more energy and less gravity, in m = (1-g), or it is less energy and more gravity, depending upon the radiant Energy the equation represents. In Einstein's E is fixed; in the Axiomatic it is a variable.
This line of reasoning was absent in Einstein's famous equation, which was geared entirely to Earth's region where gravity is extremely weak. It is now introduced into the Axiomatic Equation. In deep space, as already forecast by MOND, gravity is greater, having less of the radiant energy component, so it affects mass differently. Yet, through the Equivalence Principle, though its inertial mass is greater than here, it remains as one kilogram. Mass is always m = 1, which is axiomatic, and only its gravitational component is greater.
That is mass.
Next question: what happens to energetic mass as it travels from a high radiance region to a low radiance region? This is not my original idea (proposed by Jerry Jensen) but the radiant energetic portion of it radiates out as it gains in inertial (gravity) mass. I tend to agree.
**Gravity equation:
G^2/pi^2 = [hc/l(proton mass)]- c^2 = -gc^2, where in taking the square root we get Newton's G.
Ivan
By Ivan A. on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 04:07 pm:
Einstein's field equation for gravity reads as:
Rab - (R/ 2) * gab + Lgab = (8pG/ c4) * Tab
where L is the cosmological constant
R is scalar curvature, Rab are Ricci curvature tensors
gab are the metric tensor components
Tab are stress-energy components of non-gravitational matter, energy and forces at a point in space-time
with G as the gravitational constant, c lightspeed constant, and p as pi.
Looking at the above, should Newton's G gravitational 'proportional' prove to be a variable, rather than a universal constant, the above General Relativity equation would need to be revised. Here are some foreseen revisions:
1. G has a variable value dependent upon radiant energy where measured
2. L would have to be dropped if cosmic light redshifts naturally coming out of dense deep space gravity regions, so the universe's 'expansion' is an illusion.
3. tensor components may need to be revised
4. GRT extensions, such as 'blackholes', Schwarzschild metric, 'time travel', lightspeed limit to space travel, Big Bang, and 'wormholes', all would need to be revised or rejected.
So if Einstein's General Relativity needs to be so revised that it no longer serves as a model for reality, though it is elegant and a high mathematical art in and of itself, one must wonder if in our spacefaring future we may not ignore it entirely, except as perhaps an interesting historical relic of our past century?
It was Max Born who said: "The theory appeared to me then, and still does, the greatest feat of human thinking about nature, the most amazing combination of philosophical penetration, physical intuition, and mathematical skill. But its connections with experience were slender. It appealed to me like a great work of art, to be enjoyed and admired from a distance." If G is variable, he may have gotten that right.
It all works out much easier with the deBroglie-Einstein modified equation where G is an inverse function of E:
E = hc/ l(proton m) = f(1-g)c^2
where E = 9E+16 Joules (on Earth, where G = 6.67E-11 Nm^2 kg^-2, and g is the proton gravitational constant, g = 5.9E-39)
You can find a calculator on for Compton wavelength, on Earth l = 2.20867E-42 m, which when plugged in will show KE transferred to electron = 8.993858E+16 J. It was this Compton wavelength that was 'reinterpreted' into the electromagnetic equivalent for the proton in the Axiomatic Equation, per paper above. If G is found variable per this equation, the universe becomes much more simplified, more open to new discovery of gravity-powered space travel, and rather than an esoteric science revealed only to a few, it becomes inordinately understandable to everyone.
Ivan
By Ivan A. on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:23 pm:
It is asked of me some times, referring to item 2.0: Planetary Total Orbital Energy E' in paper above, as to why did I multiply solar irradiance by distance from the Sun?
The equation for E' shows how the total energy of any planet is represented by the radiant energy flux times its kinetic energy:
E' = solar irradiance x distance x 1/2 (m) v^2, where KE = 1/2 mv^2, with m = 1
By analogy, the simplest reason is how Newton's gravity equation for Force, F, refers to the equation for gravity potential, -U.
F = GMm/r^2, which times distance r becomes -U = -GMm/r
The same principle applies to Energy E', where the solar irradiance is in Watts per meters squared, W/m^2, but in multiplying by distance in meters, we get total radiant energy as W/m.
The kinetic energy in the equation is called a 'template' because it was worked out for its numeric value, in kilometers, whereas the solar radiance energy was in meters. This was done in order to bring the result into line for Earth's E = 9E+16 J, and then likewise figured, by same template, for all the solar planets (see paper above), from which were extrapolated the relative Newton's G 'proportionals' for their orbits.
For Earth this function became: E' = solar irrad x 1/2 (1)Rv^2, where R is distance from Sun, and W/m = m^2 kg s^-2/ m = m kg s^-2, the Newton force.
E' = 1/2 (1367.6 W/m^2) x (149.6E+9 m) x (1 kg)(29.78)^2
E' = 1/2 (2.046E+14 m kg s^-2) x (886.85 m^2 kg s^-2) = 9.07E+16 m^3 kg^2 s^-4 ,
which is J*N, so per Newton force (N = m kg s^-2), it becomes: E' = 9.07E+16 m^2 kg s^-2, or Joules.
(Erratum: in the original I had it worked out as W/m, or Joules per second per meter.)
The reason E' = 9.07E+16 J is greater than E = mc^2 = 9E+16 J may be related to Earth's interior heat, which implies Earth's Einterior = 0.07E+16 J, but at present is unresolved.
Ivan
By Ivan A. on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:36 pm:
This is a hypothesis for testing spectral redshift in deep space at multiple AUs from Earth's ~1AU, as a test of both Einstein's Second Postulate and Newton's G 'constant'.
Hypthesis: if deep space gravity G' is greater than inner solar system gravity (ie. Earth's G, as expressed in Newton's proportional G), then 'greater than' applies as follows:
G' > G
d' > d
v' > v
c' > c
exception: t'=t, always equal standard measure of time t.
Therefore, for E = hf, where Energy equals Planck's constant times frequency f, where f = c / l, then
if G' is greater than G, then d'/t = v' = c', and c' > c.
Example; if d'/G' =~ d'/t, so that d'/G' =~ v', then c'/G' = v'/G', and thus if t = c, then v' = ~d'/c (which is the redshift in G').
Conclusion: if speed of light accelerates in deep space higher G' region, then distance covered by light increases proportionally in standard equal measures of time t. If distance traveled in deep space by light is greater, and not Doppler related, then resulting redshift means the universe is much larger than we think (as now postulated using Einstein's relativistic variable time and length), and light wavelength is redshifted due to greater G' in deep space.
As a measure of time, t = t always, and d = d always, but c is not constant, per v = c limitation. So if lightspeed is gravity related to where it may exceed v = c in greater G', so that c' > c in deep space. Velocity of light greater than c violates Einstein's second postulate in his Special Relativity, however, so this postulate may no longer be supported, of necessity.
Time t = c may apply depending upon c constant as a measure of time, if t remains invariable. Time t can be set to any unit of measure, provided it is a universal consistant. However, c may be less than c' in deep space if G' is greater than Earth's G.
Spectral Analysis to follow:
If v = fl = c, then f = v/l = c/l for v = c, so that if f'= c'/l' for v' = c', then it should follow that f' = f, which means there should be no change in cosmic light frequency. So spectral analysis is not affected, except as wavelength l shifts to the red, i.e., redshift of cosmic light.
Therefore, if spectral analysis of distant cosmic light is taken from deep space, at multiple AUs from Earth's, that redshift should appear to be greater for the same spectral analysis of such light frequency as now found from Earth's ~1 AU observations. In fact, this redshift should be more deeply redshifted if measured from Pluto, for example, but relatively blueshifted back (to our known redshift values) when again observed from Earth's location. Frequency of light does not change if deep space G' yields to increased light v' > c, but greater velocity of light traveling greater distances for same time t in deep space G' should show up as greater redshift values for deep space (as measured in Newton's G proportional for mass), where gravity is orders of magnitudes greater than for inner solar system. This test for deep space redshift should provide a test for Einstein's variable time Special Relativity (in non-relativistic mathematical parameters) with in-situ measurements of cosmic light redshift, and also for the second postulate of v = c as a maximum velocity of light in space. Redshifted light should not be Doppler related, of necessity, but a factor of lightspeed in deep gravity space.
This may be one way to design a 'double blind' test for gravity in deep space away from Earth's ~1AU, by testing for redshift spectral analysis out there.
(Note: this was something that came to mind after we stopped for a drink at a natural spring at Capranica, Lazio, en route from Viterbo to Roma, Sunday night, May 1, 2005, so not complete... consider it work in progress...)
Ivan
Ps: I should note that I really have no basis for what I wrote above, just a specualtive idea. In fact, the more I think of it, the more sure I am that v = c for lightspeed is the norm, and that the only fallout from greater deep space gravity is the redshift, period. Actual observations from outer solar system should give us a better picture of what happens to light in deep space. --Ivan, June 6, 2005.
By Ivan A. on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:05 pm:
The above post raises the possibility if redshift is studied from outer solar system, it may show up differently for observations made from near Earth's 1 AU, which then may mean a variable G leads also to a variable c. That said, it would of necessity impact the Axiomatic Equation if this is so. It would now have to be rewritten as follows, to allow for c' = v > c:
E' = hc'/ l(proton m) = ~(1-g)c' * c, or perhaps to better reflect a variable c':
E'/c' = h/ l(proton m) = ~(1-g)c
But this is just a spec until we know what lightspeed is from redshift observations of known phenomena at distant AUs.
Ivan
By Ivan A. on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 02:33 am:
What is momentum? It's 'infalling', that's all. I know this sounds strange, so let me explain.
Atomic mass is an electromagnetic-gravity interaction, where what we know of as mass measured in kilograms, both as inertia or per gravity G, is dependent upon how much electromagnetic radiant energy is present in space. Near a hot star, it is very abundant, so the G is small and inertial mass, per the equivalence principle, is likewise small. But in deep space e.m. energy is low, so the G is greater, along with inertial mass and gravity. The two, e.m. and gravity, thus have an inversely proportional relationship. The Newton's G is then merely a 'proportional' variable that is 'constant' for any orbital level at a distance from a star. Now, about momentum.
If we think of motion, velocity, as atomic mass in motion, what causes this motion? Mostly, it comes from two sources: a transfer of kinetic energy or a gravitationally accelerated velocity. Now think of what this means. Each molecule within any matter in motion is in a constant state of agitation. This agitation we know will increase with additional hot radiant energy, meaning it receives more electromagnetic energy. However, this agitation is a velocity neutral phenomenon, where all the molecules agitated in effect cancel out to zero, since they interact only with themselves. The situation is different, however, if the matter is in motion. Then what happens is that some of the molecular vibration is directional, where the net effect is a positive vibration in the direction of the motion. The greater this net directional effect, the greater the velocity. Once set in motion, whether because it was pushed by a hand, a bat, or a rocket engine, this motion tends to remain the same, what we call inertial motion, or momentum. Newton's first law of motion, that once an object is set in motion, devoid of other forces influencing this motion, it will remain thus. So far, nothing new here.
Now here is where the new idea of 'infalling' comes in.: The other reason motion results is from gravitational pull. Any mass, regardless of its inertial state, will be pulled in by another mass, so an attractive and accelerated motion results. However, momentum motion is not accelerative, so it remains constant. And this is where the two are different, the motion resulting from applied energy to 'push' on matter, and the motion resulting from a 'pull' of gravity. But they are related! How? Because each molecule that is either pushed or pulled into a net directional motion is 'infalling' into a theoretical gravitational hole, constantly. This is very strange, so I had better explain it further.
Space is gravity, it is everywhere, and it exists in a steady state so that any one point in the space vacuum is gravitationally equal to any other. This is the principle of infinity having no center, and that each point in infinity is equally its center. Thus, any motion of atomic mass, matter, has a net directional velocity towards a continuous stream of gravitational points in space, ad infinitum. However, this motion resulting from a net biased vibration, if resulting from kinetic energy push, is not directed towards a given gravitational mass. So the result is that it is not attracted by mass pull, but rather is only attracted towards each continuous point in space. The result is a steady state 'infalling' without acceleration, just pure motion. This motion is then modified by the mass inertia, so that in a very weak G region, it is relatively easy to push matter, but in a higher G region, this push require more work, as per E = 1/2 mv^2. Once set in motion, it continues this net effect of 'infalling' into the space gravity, which is continuous, and thus results in what we call 'momentum', p = mv. The more inertial mass, whether due to size or resulting from greater G proportional, the more this momentum will result. And because of this infalling into gravitational points, ad infinitum, the motion remains unchanged until some other force interferes with it. This interfering force can then again come from two sources: either kinetic energy transfer, push, or from gravitational attraction due to mass, where it is accelerated with pull. Once that happens, the molecular agitations, the biased vibrations in the direction of motion, then become altered, which results either in a change of direction or change in velocity, per vectors involved.
Think what this means: The affected molecules vibrating in a biased manner, towards direction of motion, are then no longer in the same net effect of motion as they were before the influence of force. Their net vibrations now exhibit a new bias, which results in a change of its vector motion. The infalling into those continuous points of space now have a different relationship once the motion is altered. And what it also means is that if this matter is traveling from a light G to a heavy G region, it will then exhibit this material change in force by transferring the kinetic energy of motion back into the vibrational parameters of the atomic mass involved. And here is the connections with light: The same momentum principle applies to photons, that they are 'drawn' into the gravity holes of a continuous space vacuum. Same as the molecular vibrations drawn into the gravity holes of space on a continuos manner to cause mass to move in a given direction, so is light drawn into that same continuous gravitational space to move through light years of distance at a continuous rate. Light travels through space, as photons of light, because space 'pulls' on this light from an infinite progression of continuous gravity, which in effect is the momentum of light. The difference between the two is that where matter needs a vibrational bias to be drawn into this gravitational space continuum, light does so dispensing with the need for this bias. Its cross-section of electric and magnetic energy, its electromagnetic energy, is what 'pulls' this light continuously throughout the light years of space, until they reach us.
This means one more thing: Light may in fact be drawn faster into the deep gravity of deep space, but there may be a counter effect, that as light photons are drawn into this gravity hole, because their momentum is constant, they likewise slow, causing it to redshift In effect, because of light's constant moment, there is no affect on velocity' it merely redshifts. The net result is that light maintains at a constant velocity, as now theorized. For light to vary in velocity, it would have to dissipate energy into the gravity medium, same as passing through any material medium, and that is unlikely. Light may be drawn into the gravity at a greater rate, but the same gravitational state maintains its constant momentum, and thus without energy loss, its velocity and momentum remain constant.
Unlike matter traveling at a constant velocity through this gravity medium, matter should accelerate into it, if it is gravity propelled: viz. The molecular vibrations respond to this deeper gravity by vibrating more in the vectorial direction of motion, if it is due to gravitational pull. Conversely, the same molecular vibration will be dissipated, or drawn less, into that same continuum of space gravity if the motion is resultant from kinetic push. The net effect is that motion launched kinetically will actually slow as it encounters deep space gravity, where the molecular biased vibrations are neutralized, but will be drawn at an accelerate rate if motion is due to gravitational pull. If pushed, it will decelerate instead; with the momentum conservation principle intact due to molecular vibrations increased by the rate of slowing; this may also mean that this increased vibration is then dissipated into space as heat.
The implications for future space travel, if this image model of momentum is true, is that spacecrafts pushed by kinetic energy will slow in the greater gravity of deep space; but like light, the same spacecrafts would accelerate into deep space if propelled by a gravity force. This to us is still a mystery as to how this can be accomplished. But if it can, we may in some distant future travel using the same momentum experienced by the electromagnetic waves of light, where matter can accelerate to lightspeed rather quickly, and likely surpass it in orders of magnitude. And if so, then space is wide open to us, and the great distances between stars and galaxies shrinks proportionally. That is the power of momentum, as an infalling force of space gravity. The main difference between light and matter is that light is invariable, meaning the vibrations remain the same regardless of the G density of space through which they travel, though it may accelerate in deep space gravity; whereas matter is subject to other factors of molecular vibrations that will require a constant 'gravitational' force to keep accelerating through the continuous gravity points of deep space, not only to maintain momentum, but in fact to increase it to light speeds and beyond. Light and heat versus gravity, that is what future motion will be made of. I think it is doable. However, until we can test for this constant momentum in deep space, it merely remains a hypothesis, geocentric at that. Further, until we can propel crafts using gravity drives, we cannot measure how all this plays out in deep space, since we may in fact not be able to get there on purely kinetic energy.
Ivan
[Edited, 6/5/05, to correct a confusion I had on the velocity of light, which remains constant, except for the gravitational redshift effect in deep space. Einstein was right! that v = c, but the redshift is not due to any Doppler effect.]
By Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 01:58 pm:
By Ivan A. on Monday, June 6, 2005 - 12:21 am:
It occurred to me while correcting my above post, May 13, 2005, on Momentum, that there may be a connection between how light redshifts in a greater gravity medium and how it has a similar redshift due to the Doppler effect for receding motion. This receding motion would cause redshift on the side of the galaxy moving away from us, conversely blueshift on the side moving towards us. However, in deep space, redshift is universal in that it appears nearly equally in all directions for all galaxies, with the exception of certain quasars. The connection is tenuous at best, for now, but they may be related to what is the cause of inertia in mass. As I understand it, tentatively, inertia in mass is a gravity effect, as per the Equivalence Principle; if light redshift in space is also a gravity effect, proportional to the greater gravity density of the spacevacuum through which it passes in deep space, then here is another equivalence. However, at this time I am not prepared to pursue this further, so leave it here only as a note for future study.
Ivan
By Ivan A. on Monday, June 6, 2005 - 05:41 pm:
The Black Hole / Tully-Fisher Paradox
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:17 am Post subject:
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Here is a totally different idea, maybe out there with "wormholes" and "time travel", but I have cause to think it is this:
--quote mine/ Ivan
Quote:
I leave this here only for the record. Solar masses collapsing or falling into black holes have nothing to do with their size or growth. Rather, the extremely high spin around black holes converts these solar masses to lightspeed energy instead, which further feeds the black hole. The spin off dividend is ionized hydrogen proto-atoms spun out the galactic axis, which will seed the galactic disk with future hydrogen molecules, which will gravitationally collapse into hot radiant stars, which will feed radiant energy into the black hole, and so on. It's a continuous system.
Check back in a few decades, when cosmology goes the next step. They'll call it the "Alexander effect". J
Cheers.
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Caveat Lector. Experimentum summus judex...
By Edward Chesky on Monday, June 6, 2005 - 06:05 pm:
Hopefully one day they will call the trisection problem the Chesky hexagonial solution....
If we get a chance one day I will by you a coffee or a beer...geometry and mathmatics two sides of coin...
My Best Ed
By Ivan A. on Tuesday, June 7, 2005 - 05:05 pm:
Wha' happened? Or could this be one more indication that so-called neutron stars are really very high G stars instead, something completely different? My take on this is that what we see as a remnant of a supernove is just that, a star suffering catastrophic failure, it blew up. Very high G stars are simply stars which cannot generate enough hot radiant e.m. energy to climb over the 'cut-off' threshold of very high gravity (G = ~10x^-6 Nm^2 kg^-2, or five orders of magnitude above Earth's G). They result in very high spin, x-ray generating micro-stars, with extreme G, mostly 'invisible' to us except for their characteristic signature.
Here's looking at you, kid. ;)
Ivan
By Anonymous on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 07:56 pm:
http://redshift.vif.com/JournalFiles/Pre2001/V0N09PDF/V0N09JAA.pdf
Could it be that if there is redshift within our solar domain, as signals travel to and from the crafts, that we are not sure where the crafts are?
By Ivan A. on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 08:45 pm:
Interesting point, that signal may redshift to and from our distant spacecraft. However, I dare say, the end result should be null. If light redshifts leaving the solar system, then it should blueshift coming back in (or vice versa for the same reason), likewise for electromagnetic signals. So we in all probability know where the spacecrafts are, though also in all probability we do not know whether or not the signal red/blue shifts or not. At least, we can't tell from our point of view on Earth. If there is redshift at the Pioneers, we simply have no way of knowing it. Then again, I haven't read the article referenced, so will do when able.
Thanks for your post.
Ivan
By Ivan A. on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 10:06 pm:
This may be the most difficult thing to grasp, that the kilograms we use on Earth to measure inertial mass are not the same kilograms used to measure it elsewhere.
Take Saturn, for example, where the proton mass (m_pSat = ~1.5E-25 kg_Earth) is about 100 times greater than on Earth (m_pEarth = 1.67E-27 kg_Earth), in Earth kilograms. But Saturn's G (G_Sat = ~68.5E-11) is about 10 times that of Earth (G_Earth = 6.67E-11). So in terms of Saturn's G region, the proton mass there is about 10 times what it is on Earth, or equivalent to its G being 10 times greater than here, when measured in terms of Saturn's G and kg_Sat. This is a strange result, but the equivalence demands it.
The Axiomatic Equations says:
E' = hc/ l(m_p) = ~(1-[g pi^2])c^2
This consequently means that the left side of the Axiomatic Equation is of necessity in Earth based units for mass, while the right side the equation yields mass equivalence in terms of local G. I.e., G^2 = gc^2 pi^2, where the square root of g (proton to proton gravitational 'constant' for that region) is equivalent to local G 'kilograms', but the original as a proportion of the left side is still in Earth G, per equivalence, kilograms. If so, then local measures of mass are always in local G, per equivalence, but squared that amount in terms of Earth based G; conversely, the opposite effect is felt for the planets closer to the Sun. On Mercury, for example, G is about 40% of Earth's, but the proton mass is about 15% of Earth's proton mass.
This may incidentally also explain why Mercury is "pulled" along by the Sun's spin (moment of inertia) directly, precession, since its inertial mass is so low, while this same effect falls off dramatically with distance (per inverse square law) so that by the gas giants it is hardly felt. It would also mean that past the Oort cloud, where G is very great, the dynamics of mass equivalence of "dark matter" proportions affects orbits there, and still more so beyond the galaxy's G equivalence, where the inverse square law defaults to a linear proportion. Of course, all this will need to be measured in future observations to validate what the Axiomatic Equation projects. And if so, then the gas giants are a given, where a small interior rocky mass can hold vast atmospheres, or why tiny Pluto can have any atmosphere at all. It all has to do with the Equivalence Principle for inertial mass in a variable G.
One other note: Einstein's equation for gravity in General Relativity, G = 8pi T, where T is a stress energy tensor, would then have to be adjusted with a constant (delta)G' per AU to account for how gravity grows at a constant linear rate of approximately one G per AU in our solar system. The same effect for other stars remains unresolved, however, since we have no way to measure adequately the energy flux output there.
The Pioneers 10 and 11 are now in deep space where there is very great G, so per this equivalence, their weight in local kilograms is a function of their distance, let's say at 70 AU they weight 70 times their original mass, except that in Earth terms, it is now 4900 times Earth kilograms. Hence, they are accelerating towards the Sun's (by now very weak gravity per the inverse square law) as if they had this tremendous (Earth based) mass. This is also the reason why this acceleration is a square root of local G, rather than in direct proportion to it, since the mass is a square function of its original mass on Earth. Consequently, the Pioneers's acceleration towards the Sun is -a = ~1/ AU(deltaG'/G), where deltaG'/G is approximately = 1 per AU m^3 kg^-1 s^-2, or 1/AU = 6.67E-10 m^3 kg^-1 s^-2 (inverse of distance from the Sun, per meter seconds squared). Taking the square root (to adjust for local kilograms) becomes -a' = ~2.6E-5 m/s^2 = ~2.6E-7 cm/s^2* This is the gravity accelerations result for Pioneers, vs. 8E-8 cm/s^2 measured, as a local acceleration towards the Sun. Solar wind, variable red/blue shifted signal, and other factors, may modify this variable gravity equivalence result.
Confused? You bet! We are simply not used to thinking this way, since for the past 300 years we had thought G was a universal constant, and inertial mass per Equivalence was measurable in Earth's kilograms. This may be all about to change. Now "dark matter" is beginning to make sense, in those far away very high G regions.
*(Note the function of mass as kg drops out.)
Ivan
By Anonymous on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 12:31 pm:
Neat little ditty, still unresolved. Hoo was right?
By Ivan A. on Thursday, August 4, 2005 - 02:40 pm:
BABB's as posted: http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=513376#513376
n.g.71
By Ivan A. on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 09:52 pm:
Since I got the official rejection letter from the Astrophysical Journal today, after 2 1/2 months, I feel it right to re-instate the original paper showing the variable G basis for the Pioneers Anomaly, with slight modifications.
Now we wait for the actual measurements in situ of Newton's G away from Earth's 1 AU = 1 G region. (I'm not too worried about it, and will be surprised if it comes out different from my calcuations.) History will be the judge.
Ivan
By Anonymous on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 10:36 pm:
In time everything works out
Ed Chesky
By Ivan A. on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 - 12:25 am:
Nevertheless, the proof is not in some extremely elegant mathematical formalism, ala GR, but in the measurements when they make them. By my calculations, Mars sits at about 1.5 Earth's G, Jupiter at ~5 Earth's G, Saturn at nearly 10 G, etc. So you see, this is pretty damning stuff. And to make matters worse, my Axiomatic works out that most of deep space, 99.99% of it, sits at G that is 5+ orders of magnitude to our G, which is high enough to gravitationally redshift light coming from there in the manner observed. Of course, that pretty kills one of their favorite cows, the BBT, so didn't expect anything other than rejection. As you say, in time... Thanks for your support. Now we just kick back and wait.
Ivan
By Anonymous on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 - 04:27 am:
A Church group and some academics approached me the other day concerned about earthquakes in light of the recent disater but were afraid to go on record about it. They wanted me to look at some data. I did and the risk remains high for another major quake in the Sumatra/Pacific Area one occured withing a few minutes of my projection and one in the Salton Sea area of CA which was part of a earthquake swarm. Like the Astrophysical Journal Today they were affraid to go public too much is unknown about the model I am using.
Such is life.
Ed Chesky
By Edward Chesky on Friday, September 9, 2005 - 06:39 am:
Ed Chesky
By Ivan A. on Friday, September 9, 2005 - 12:32 pm:
New look at microwave background may cast doubts on big bang theory
It looks like the BBT may soon be the BBB. They say:
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In research published April 10 in the "Astrophysical Journal, Letters," Lieu and Mittaz found that evidence provided by WMAP point to a slightly "super critical" universe, where there is more matter (and gravity) than what the standard interpretation of the WMAP data says. This posed serious problems to the inflationary paradigm.
Finding very old stars at the supposed origin time of BB is another damning thing. My theoretical hunch is that gravity is at fault, that it is over 100,000 times greater per volume of matter (molecules of hydrogen and other gases) in deep intergalactic space than on Earth, so distant cosmic light redshifts naturally (gravitationally) in line with the Hubble constant. No expansion, just redshifted light. Of course, this does change the paradigm, where the BB idea is null, bust, kaput. Put it to bed, "Hasta la vista Baby!"
Ivan
By Edward Chesky on Friday, September 9, 2005 - 08:33 pm:
In time I am sure that evidence will bear out you theory. But it is not yet time. To try and change a world view takes time and a grassroots effort. Give it time.
In my own case as I sit here preparing for a well earned vaction with my wife. I think of a president that vacationed as New Orleans was destroyed and his efforts to dismantle the Federal Government in an effort to privatize everything. He and his agenda and effort to impose a World View on the World now lay in ruins from Bagdad to New Orleans because he lacked the intelligence to understand the ramifications of his actions and the threat that global warming poses to our society and planet.
I am a direct descendent of the Mayflower and served in or supported 6 Wars, Campaigns or Major Global Crisis and applied to FEMA but was turned down due to the intervention of political hacks of the Bush Administration because I opposed George Bush's policies. I believe that time has told now who understood better what the results of his policies were going to be.
I have looked on the aftermath of Katrina and seen much to be appalled by and much to rejoice over. I have to say that I am disgusted with the current administration and its actions in New Orleans. Now that the people have seen the truth they will accept nothing less than an accounting from government.
I also note with disgust the actions of the rich descendents of New Orleans families who have been there since the 1700 hundreds that sit in large homes siping highballs behind private security forces in the French Quarter looking to profit from this disaster and reshape the city to reduce the influence of the undesriable black poor population.
My family has served this nation in all its wars since before it was a nation and we have amassed and lost fortunes over the course of it but we never broke the terms of the Mayflower compact. When called we served and died. From the days of the revolution to the underground railroad, which we helped run, to the civil war to the jungles of Vietnam to the Deserts of Iraq my family has served this nation. When the government needed to build a base for long range nuclear bombers we sold our land at fair market price to the government then moved on to new jobs.
One thing I would caution the old families of New Orleans about is that the black race will not bow to you again. During the 1960's and 1970's my family helped get southern blacks jobs that had no birth certificates because they were not counted in the south. All they had were bibles with the names of the families written in them. Many of those people and their children have moved into government service the police and the military, and FBI and they remember what the descendents fo the Mayflower did for them during the great battle for civil rights.
What the future hold for me now I do not know except that I am sure it will be interesting.
Ed Chesky
By Ivan A. on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 12:03 pm:
This paper may be another clue in how gravitational mass and radiant energy have an inverse proportionality, as per Axiomatic Equation.
Ivan