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Thanks Edward for your fine contributions to the Humancafe. We are read worldwide, and more often than we think. Thereby a new thread is dedicated to your collected writings, a New Royal Society separate, to embody your collected works.

Edward has had a most interesting life, one which includes surviving a sinister attempt on his life, and a lifetime of reflections, not least of which is an epiphany, and years of thought and research. Thanks.

Humancafe, editor

An exploration of the Human Mind and Ancient Technology

Has Technology freed us? Or has it supressed mental capabilities?

The following are a few examples of ancient technology and two different paths taken.

The abacus, or soroban as it is called in Japan, is one of the first objects that strongly attracts the attention of the foreigner in Japan. When he buys a few trifling articles at some store, he soon notices that the tradesman does not perplex himself with mental arithmetic, but instead seizes his soroban, prepare it by a tilt and a rattling sweep of his hand, and after a deft manipulation of rapid clicks, reads off the price. It is true that the Japanese tradesman often uses his board and beads even when the problem is simple enough to be done in one's head, but this is only because the use of the abacus has become a habit with him. If he tried, he could no doubt easily add 37 and 48 in his head. But such is the force of habit that he does not try to recognize the simplicity of any problem; instead, following the line of least resistance, he adjusts his soroban for manipulation, and begins clicking the beads, thus escaping any need of mental effort.
Doubtlessly the Westerner, with his belief in the powers of mental arithmetic and the modern calculating machine, often mistrusts the efficiency of such a primitive looking instrument.

However, his mistrust of the soroban is likely to be transformed into admiration when he gains some knowledge concerning it.

For the soroban, which can perform in a fraction of time, a difficult arithmetic calculation that the Westerner could do laboriously only by means of pencil and paper, possesses distinct advantages over mental and written arithmetic.

The Japanese tradesman with his soroban would easily outstrip a rapid and accurate Western accountant even with his adding machine.

An exciting contest between the Japanese abacus and the electric calculating machine was held in Tokyo on November 12, 1946, under the sponsorship of the U. S. Army newspaper, the Stars and Stripes. In reporting the contest, the Stars and Stripes remarked:

"The machine age tool took a step backward yesterday at the Emie Pyle Theater as the abacus, centuries old, dealt defeat to the most up-to-date electric machine now being used by the United States Government...The abacus victory was decisive."
The Nippon Times reported the contest as follows:

"Civilization, on the threshold of the atomic age, tottered Monday afternoon as the 2,000-year-old abacus beat the electric calculating machine in adding, subtracting, dividing and a problem including all three with multiplication thrown in, according to UP. Only in multiplication alone did the machine triumph..."
The American representative of the calculating machine was Pvt. Thomas Nathan Wood of the 20th Finance Disbursing Section of General MacArthur's headquarters, who had been selected in an arithmetic contest as the most expert operator of the electric calculator in Japan. The Japanese representative was Mr. Kiyoshi Matsuzaki, a champion operator of the abacus in the Savings Bureau of the Ministry of Postal Administration.
As may be seen from the results the abacus scored a total of 4 points as against 1 point for the electric calculator. Such results should convince even the most skeptical that, at least so far as addition and subtraction are concerned, the abacus possesses an indisputable advantage over the calculating machine. Its advantages in the fields of multiplication and division, however, were not so decisively demonstrated.

http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/abacus/

The Antikythera mechanism is an ancient artifact believed to be an early clockwork mechanism. It was discovered in a shipwreck off the Greek island of Antikythera, between Kythera and Crete, and has been dated to about 87 BC.

The wreck was discovered in 1900 at a depth of about 40 m (140 feet), and many statues and other works were retrieved from it by sponge divers. On May 17, 1902 archaeologist Spyridon Stais noticed that one of the pieces of rock had a gear wheel embedded in it.

The mechanism is the oldest known surviving geared mechanism, made from bronze in a wooden frame, and has puzzled and intrigued historians of science and technology since its discovery. The most commonly accepted theory of its function is that it was an analog computer designed to track the movements of heavenly objects. Recent working reconstructions of the device support this analysis. The device is all the more impressive for its use of a differential gear, which was previously believed to have been invented in the 16th century AD.

The late Professor Derek J. de Solla Price, a science historian working at Yale University, published an article on the mechanism in Scientific American in June 1959 while the device was still only partially inspected. In 1973 or 1974 he published an analysis based on gamma ray imaging by Greek archaeologists. He claimed that the device had been built by a Greek astronomer, Geminus of Rhodes. His conclusion was not accepted by experts at the time, who believed that the Ancient Greeks had the theoretical knowledge but not the necessary practical skills.

A partial reconstruction was built by Australian computer scientist Allan George Bromley (1947–2002) of the University of Sydney and Sydney clockmaker Frank Percival. This project led Bromley to review Price's X-ray analysis and to make new, more accurate X-ray images that were studied by Bromley's student, Bernard Gardner, in 1993.

Later, a British orrery maker named John Gleave constructed a working replica of the mechanism. According to his reconstruction, the front dial shows the annual progress of the Sun and Moon through the zodiac against the Egyptian calendar. The upper rear dial displays a four-year period and has associated dials showing the Metonic cycle of 235 synodic months, which equals 19 solar years. A synodic month is the period between two new moons. The lower rear dial plots the cycle of a single synodic month, with a secondary dial showing the lunar year of 12 synodic months.

Another reconstruction was made in 2002 by Michael Wright, mechanical engineering curator for the Science Museum in London, working with Allan Bromley. He analyzed the mechanism using linear tomography, which can create images of a narrow focal plane and thus visualized the gears in great detail.

In Wright's reconstruction, the device not only models the motions of the sun and moon, but those of every celestial body known to the Ancient Greeks: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

This new reconstruction gives credence to ancient mentions of such devices. Cicero, writing in the first century BC, mentions an instrument "recently constructed by our friend Poseidonius, which at each revolution reproduces the same motions of the sun, the moon and the five planets." Such devices are mentioned elsewhere as well.

It also adds support to the idea that there was an ancient Greek tradition of complex mechanical technology which formed the foundation of European clockmaking techniques.

Some scientists believe that not only was the device used to track celestial bodies, but to calculate their positions for events or births.

The original mechanism is kept in the National Archaeological Museum in Athens. There is a replica on display at the American Computer Museum in Bozeman, Montana.

The Antikythera mechanism, not described in any surviving source, shows that our knowledge of ancient technology is very incomplete. In 1996 the Italian physicist Lucio Russo (professor at Università di Roma "Tor Vergata") published an essay putting new light on the issue. The book has been translated and published in English in 2004 under the title "The Forgotten Revolution: How Science Was Born in 300 BC and Why it Had to Be Reborn".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

Jan. 19, 2005 — An ancient star catalogue lost for centuries has emerged from a Titan's shoulder, according to a study into a Roman statue of Atlas presented at the recent American Astronomical Society meeting in San Diego, Calif.

Known as the Farnese Atlas, the seven-foot-tall marble statue depicting the mythical Titan carrying the Earth on his shoulder is a Roman copy from the 2nd century A.D. of a Greek original dating to before the birth of Christ.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050117/loststars.html

It took year to rediscover what an engineer did with compass ruler and pen and paper...

But the discover was well worth it....

Even in the modern age there is hidden knowledge to be found...:)

Newswise — Debate has simmered among engineers over just why Gustave Eiffel designed his famous tower the way he did. Now it appears that the matter has been put to rest, thanks in part to an analysis by Michigan Technological University mathematician Iosif Pinelis.

Pinelis, a professor of mathematical sciences, first became intrigued by the problem in 2002, when Patrick Weidman, an associate professor of mechanical engineering at the University of Colorado at Boulder, visited Michigan Tech. Weidman presented two competing mathematical theories, each purporting to explain the Eiffel Tower's elegant design.

One, by Christophe Chouard, argued that Eiffel engineered his tower so that its weight would counterbalance the force of the wind. According to the other theory, the wind pressure is counterbalanced by tension between the elements of the tower itself, Pinelis said.

Chouard had developed a nonlinear integral equation to support his theory, but finding its solutions was proving difficult. "Weidman and the mathematicians whom he had consulted could only find one solution, a parabola, of the infinitely many solutions that Chouard's equation must have," Pinelis said. As anyone who has survived high-school geometry can testify, the Eiffel Tower's profile doesn't look anything like a parabola. Weidman asked MTU mathematicians if they could come up with any other solutions.

Pinelis went back to his office and soon found an answer confirming Weidman's conjecture that Chouard's theory was wrong. It turns out that all existing solutions to Chouard's equation must either be parabola-like or explode to infinity at the top of tower.

"The Eiffel Tower does not explode to infinity at the top, and its profile curves inward rather than outward," Pinelis notes. "That pretty much rules out Chouard's equation."

Weidman then went to the historical record, and found an 1885 memoire delivered by Eiffel to the French Civil Engineering Society affirming that Eiffel had indeed planned to counterbalance wind pressure with tension between the construction elements.

Using that information, Weidman and developed an nonlinear integral-differential equation whose solutions yielded the true shape of the Eiffel Tower. That shape is exponential.

The work by Weidman and Pinelis, "Model Equations for the Eiffel Tower Profile: Historical Perspective and New Results," has appeared in the French journal Comptes Rendus Mecanique, published by Elsevier and the French Academy of Sciences. An abstract may be viewed at http://www.elsevier.fr/html/index.cfm?act=abstract&cle=49158

"The funny thing for me was that you didn't have to go into the historical investigation to disprove a wrong theory," Pinelis says. "The math confirms the logic behind the design. For me, it was more fun to go to the math."

Hi Ivan,

I meant to start a discussion based on what we said about Easter Island. It caused me to recall a number of things and brought to mind my old theory about the ancients having a great deal more intelligence than we gave them credit for.

This even carries through to the modern age with regards to my hexagonial solution to the trisection problem and the classic solution to wind loading of the Eiffel Tower both done through the use of geometry.

It is my theory that many other greats incorporated into their work a lot of information that is just waiting to be deciphered. Imagine what Niki Telsa had in his note books that were siezed by the federal government and what lays in the Vatican Secret Archives, the citadals of Islam and in Asia or even in Mezo-America and the temples of India.

The rub is that China is becoming much more restricive on the free exchange of information.

They have taken a diferent path and have insights from oragami and other disciplines that we are only now becoming aware of.

Unfortunately the restrictions on free exchange of data and on the internet cripple our ability to draw from those sources of geometry and mathmatics....I have hope to travel to Asia one day to converse with a master of origami on his thoughts regarding time and space to see what his vison is. Perhaps one day I will be able to do that.

My Best Ed

Sometime between 1877 and 1881 a master carpenter constructed a staircase that has puzzled experts for a long time, first from the complexity of its design and the way it balances forces, all done without aid of computers or advanced composite material. Skeptics have disected it in writing dispelling many of the myths surrounding it. However, regardless it is a feat of engineering and art that in my opinion still retains some mystery. the helix used in its design is almost a mobius strip constructed of wood but not fully.


The Miraculous Staircase, which legend says was constructed or inspired by St. Joseph the Carpenter, was built sometime between 1877 and 1881. It took at least six months to build, and has two 360 degree turns with no visible means of support.

Two mysteries surround the spiral staircase in the Loretto Chapel; the identity of its builder and the physics of the staircase construction.

When the Loretto Chapel was completed, there was no way to access the choir loft, 22 feet above. Carpenters were called in to address the problem but they all concluded access to the loft would have to be via ladder as a staircase would interfere with the interior space of the small Chapel.

To find a solution to the problem, the Sisters of the Chapel made a novena to St. Joseph, the patron saint of carpenters. Legend says on the ninth and final day of prayer, a man showed up at the Chapel with a donkey and a toolbox looking for work. Months later the elegant circular staircase was completed and the carpenter disappeared without pay or thanks. After searching for the man (an ad even ran in the local newspaper) and finding no trace of him, some concluded that he was St. Joseph himself.

The stairway's carpenter, whoever he was, built a magnificent structure. The design was innovative for the time and some of the design considerations still perplex experts today.

The staircase has two 360 degree turns and has no visible means of support. Also, it is said that the staircase was built without nails -- only wooden pegs. Questions also surround the number of stair risers compared to the height of the choir loft and about the types of wood and other materials used in the stairway's construction.

Over the years many have flocked to the Loretto Chapel to see the Miraculous Staircase. The staircase has been the subject of many articles, TV specials, and movies including "Unsolved Mysteries" and the Kraft movie called "The Staircase".

http://www.lorettochapel.com/

Psychic link to Lockerbie bomb probe
This was an outgrowth of the Old MK Ultra Program from the cold War

DOD Had a similar Program called Project SOS, Its intent was to probe to the furthest limits of the Universe. The results remain highly classified

The CIA used psychics to investigate the Lockerbie bombing and reconstruct images of the baggage container said to have held the bomb that caused PanAm Flight 103 to explode.

Declassified documents obtained by the Sunday Herald reveal the extraordinary attempts that were made to glean vital clues relating to Britain’s worst terrorist atrocity – 270 people died when PanAm Flight 103 was blown up over Lockerbie in December 1988.

The 26-page report is an insight into the now decommissioned Star Gate programme, a $20m CIA initiative which ran from 1972 to the mid-1990s.

It was launched with the aim of training individuals to gather intelligence information by “transcending the boundaries of space and time” through their minds.

Using a process known as “remote viewing”, investigators attempted to provide information that could be useful to the intelligence sources about international tensions and major investigations.

The files on Lockerbie are included in the declassified Star Gate files held at the US National Archives in College Park, Maryland. They relate to the pivotal moment in the aircraft’s flight path when the bomb exploded, causing the aircraft to split apart and descend from an altitude of 36,000ft at roughly 1000ft per second.

According to the report of June 7, 1990, an unnamed remote viewer was commissioned by the CIA’s Star Gate programme based at Fort Meade, Maryland, for an eight-hour remote viewing session.

The viewer’s mission was to give CIA agents a clearer picture of the doomed baggage container as well as the co-ordinates of the airplane when it began its nightmare descent through the night sky.

The findings are recorded, along with scrawled sketches, crude child-like diagrams, letters and figures. According to the report summary, the agents said of the doomed plane: “The target is an activity or event. There is a cylindrical shape that is clear and see-through. There is something inside it that seems to be moving through it and out on one end.

“The stuff inside it is light, smooth, stringy, air, and it is moving down, making a ‘whoosh’ sound. It is speeding up as it goes down and out. It makes me want to throw up.”

It is not known whether the CIA was able to make any use of the efforts of the remote viewer, who goes on to describe their perceptions of the container which may have held the bomb: “The cylindrical shape seems to be in the bottom of something, in a horizontal position. It could be in the bottom of a square box. There is a bomb in the box and it explodes.”

Such agents were charged with describing “tangibles and intangibles of more than one word” which might help with an investigation.

The Lockerbie bomb assessment went on: “It makes me think of a bomb blowing up a person. I can see red, fire, and jagged flames. The outside of the box seems to have diagonal lines going from left to right and right to left.

“Something about the target makes my nose burn, my eyes water, choke, and makes me feel queasy enough to vomit. It makes me think of gas. It also makes me think of a car and a car crash.

“Something is political, dizzy, confused, stuffy, lunatic, nervous and colourful. I keep seeing a small blue spot of light and three shapes. One of the three shapes seems to be more important than the others.”

Remote viewing was also used on hundreds of defence missions up to the final days of the Gulf war, according to a 1991 CIA report also obtained by the Sunday Herald from the National Archives.

Star Gate’s main plan was to “develop a long-range systematic and comprehensive approach to the investigation of anomalous mental phenomena”. The US Congress disbanded the programme in 1995 after negative media publicity as well as public outcry over ethical concerns of mind warfare.

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al Megrahi, a Libyan, was convicted in 2001 of killing 270 people in the Lockerbie bombing. He is serving a life sentence in Barlinnie Prison, Glasgow, but is preparing to appeal to the European Court.

During DOD Project SOS testing One subject exceeded all limites with highly conistent results.

The results are classified at the highest levels

It was called Project SOS for a reason.

Project SOS was a long shot, rumors of it have circulated for a while, what they found is unknown. What they gave us is hope. In memory of an old man who saw much and lost his way back to this reality.

Stargate Project

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The Stargate Project was one of a number of code names used to cover "remote viewing programs." Others included Sun Streak, Grill Flame, and Center Lane, by DIA and INSCOM, and SCANATE by CIA, from the 1970s, through to 1995. It was an offshoot of research done at 'SRI' (Stanford Research Institiute).

The research program was launched partly because some intelligence officers believed a 'psi-gap' had emerged between America and the Soviet Union, for example the reputed abilities of Nina Kulagina. But it was also borne of the soul searching that took place in the American military post Vietnam, and a willingness that subsequently emerged to 'think outside the box,' as exemplified by Jim Channon's 'First Earth Batallion' briefing.

Remote sensing of places or events is normally performed in the present, but sessions have also been undertaken in the past and future. One of the outcomes from the funding was a set of protocols designed to make clairvoyance a more scientific process, and minimize as much as possible session noise and inaccuracy. The term "remote viewing" emerged as a generalised short hand to describe this more structured approach to clairvoyance.

The project was eventually terminated, according to the official report at the time, because there was insufficient evidence of the utility of the intelligence data produced. However, in the generalized intelligence and defense budget cuts of the period, many projects lost funding. More realistically the unit was terminated because of managerial failure. In 1989 new civilian administrators unfamiliar with CRV protocols, had brought in "witches," tarot card readers, and channelers. As a result, the quality of the session data produced had rapidly deteriorated.

In 1995 the project was transferred to the CIA and a retrospective evaluation of the results were to be done. The CIA contracted the American Institutes for Research for this evaluation. An analysis conducted by Professor Jessica Utts showed a statistically significant effect, whereas the noted long time CSICOP psychic debunker Ray Hyman concluded zero results. Based upon Ray’s finding which fitted the political environment of the period, the CIA followed the recommendation to terminate the project.

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Key Project Personnel
Firstly, it should be noted there is no comprehensive formal history of the project, and there may well be key members who have chosen to remain anonymous. However, certain members of the project have come forward, and certain details of the personnel are available.

Major General Albert Stubblebine

A key sponsor of the research internally at Fort Meade, convinced of the reality of a wide variety of psychic phenomena, he never mastered walking through walls, although he did greatly bruise his nose in numerous attempts. In the early 1980s was responsible for Army intelligence. Some commentators have confused 'Project Jedi' run by special forces primarily out of Fort Bragg with Stargate. In fact General Stubblebine was poorly received when he visited Fort Bragg, and did not participate nor was aware of the goat lab experiments being conducted. (?)

Ingo Swann

Coined the term 'remote viewing' as a derivation of protocols originally developed by René Warcollier, a French chemical engineer in the early 20th century, documented in the book Mind to Mind. Swann's achievement was to break free from the conventional mould of casual experimentation and candidate burn out, and develop a viable set of protocols that put clairvoyance within a framework named “Coordinate Remote Viewing” (CRV).

Patrick Price

Remote viewer during the early part of the program, with excellent results it is said. In the words of CIA director Stansfield Turner at a news conference, "he died, and we haven't heard from him since." (Schnabel, page 211)

Joseph McMoneagle

In the early 1970's Joe had a Near Death Experience (NDE) that bestowed him with exceptional psychic powers. Widely considered a "natural," Joe has stated that remote viewing ability is predominately determined by innate talent. While many disagree with this statement, it is notable none of his critics seem able to work to the same level as Joe. Joe's definition implies that remote viewing is any psychic undertaking that is performed under scientific protocols.

Lyn Buchanan

A sergeant brought in by General Stubblebine for two main reasons. Firstly extraordinary telekinetic abilities, secondly computer software expertise. This made him exceptionally well qualified to be the data base manager for the Stargate project. From this vantage point, Lyn had the opportunity to work with all the key members of the unit, and in possession of statistical analysis of the session data, was able to properly assess the accuracy of the session data obtained. After leaving the forces, Lyn founded Problems, Innovations, Solutions, contracted Mel Riley to work for his company, and continues to undertake private tuition.

Mel Riley

Army Sergeant who retired in 1991. Mel is another natural psychic, and was noted for being able to describe what lay under objects in aerial photography. This aroused inconclusive interest in the 1970s. In 1984, the CRV unit had only several trained remote viewers, and Mel was requested transferred to the unit. Based upon his innate ability, with training in the CRV protocols, Mel quickly became an impressive remote viewer. Mel was featured in the documentary released in 1995 by the BBC titled "The Real X-Files." He has recounted past life experiences as a Native American, and continues to be involved in native American culture, enjoying a quiet life with his wife.

Paul H. Smith

Retired U.S. Army Major and intelligence officer. Paul was one of the five people trained as a prototype test subject in Ingo Swann's psychic development of the Coordinate Remote Viewing (CRV) protocols in 1983. Paul was later assigned to work part time in the Defense Intelligence Agency’s remote viewing unit. He was the main author of what is known today as the “CRV Manual” which was written as an effort to describe CRV technology for the sole purpose to solicit continued annual funding for the unit from congress. The CRV manual was not written under the guidance of Ingo Swann, nor was it written for the purpose of teaching CRV. Paul, having natural artistic abilities, produced impressive CRV session sketches. He always preferred to remote view in the blind, being tasked with CRV coordinates by a project manager. Paul rarely took the initiative to perform CRV session analysis of his own work or to operate as the team project manager.

Ed Dames

One of the first five who were trained by Ingo Swann in the Coordinate Remote Viewing protocols. Quickly established a reputation for pushing CRV to extremes, with target sessions on Atlantis, Mars, UFOs, and aliens. Many in the unit despised him for this. Joe McMoneagle has expressed the opinion session feedback is required to learn CRV, and this could not be obtained when targeting such unverifiable locations. Eventually Mel Riley got so fed up with Ed, a fake session was arranged, when they described Santa coming over the North Pole in his sleigh. With his ever active imagination, Ed immediately deduced an object over the north pole was a nuclear attack, and was set to call the highest levels of the military, before he was informed of the prank. Internally, his reputation never recovered.

David Morehouse

Dames brought David Morehouse into the DIA's Remote Viewing unit during its final days. David has a somewhat troubled past, and is primarily notable for producing a largely fictionalised account of the limited time he spent as a remote viewer called Psychic Warrior.

After 9-11 a varient of the Mk-Ultra program was reactivated. It was a derivative of the Stargate Project. This time it was done overseas in Embassy's like Mexico City, Military Bases and Military Medical Facilities to avoid United States Laws. The project was a black program authorized by the Bush Adminsitration after 9-11. It was run using DOD personnel from Ft. Leavenworth, Ft. Hauchuca the U.S Navy, Marines and Airforce. The United States Simulations and Training Command STRICOM was initially invovled in the project but following success during the DC Sniper Hunt it was transfered to the jusidiction of the CIA with support being provided by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

After 9-11 all resources of the Federal Government were thrown at the terrorism problem, including Project Stargate. U.S. Twenty Million Dollars was allocated for the project via cutouts and defense allocations to hire staff on front projects. A series of defense contractors were used as front companies for the program. These companies included some of the largest defesne contractors in the nation and a number of High Tech smaller defense contractors.

The project was used during the DC Sniper Hunt with great success and expanded following it for use during opertion Iraqi Freedom. One subject was recruited during the project whose abilities exceeded all expectations and previous experience. This subject rebelled during the program and events surrounding it are and remain highly classified. Possible telekentic, telpathic, farseeing ability along with possible paranormal activity and unexplained mortalities among supervisory personnel promped immediate shut down of the project.

The status of the project is unknown at this time. It is believed that representivies of the Catholic Church (Opus Dei) became aware of the project and raised significant objections to it via Church Diplomatic Channels. All personnel involved in teh project have been resassigned to high security projects to keep them from speaking out about what happened. The test subject that exceeded all previous known limits remains at large and under surveillance.

I have been tracking this discussion and add the following

This turns out to be a very interesting subject.

Ed Chesky


MAJOR GENERAL ALBERT N. STUBBLEBINE, III
The following speech was given by Major General Stubblebine, an important advocate of the military use of Psi and related techniques. This took place at the International Symposium on UFO Research Sponsored by the International Association for New Science Denver, Colorado, May 22-25, 1992.

(Introduction by Dr. Steven Greer of Gen. (Ret.) Stubblebine's military career as Commanding officer of the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM), his efforts to study unusual human performance for the Army, his involvement as Chairman of the Board of Directors of PSI TECH, his association with TREAT and with Soviet Technology Transfer, etc.)

General Stubblebine:
(Begins with casual remarks on "why a person like me is in a place like this talking to a group of people like you on a subject like wherever it is we are talking today; continues with casual jokes about rapturing the audience, ethnic jokes about Hittites "with a slight Japanese flavor" about kamikaze pilots on WW2, leading to the phrase, "Are you out of your f------ mind? That, ladies and gentlemen, is the title of this talk because what I plan to talk is remote viewing").

So what is remote viewing? [From now on abbreviated as RV -ed.]

First of all, it is a very systematic, very controlled method of accessing information that is not normally available by any other source, that's about fi~ll isn't it? Accessible information that is not accessible by any other source. I told you, if you either did it or believe in it, you probably would be out of your mind because everyone knows that that is not a doable do, can't do that, however, we can and we do, so first of all let me tell you a little bit about what remote viewing is. It is independent of time, OK? So I can go past, I can go present, I can go future. It is independent of location, so I can go anywhere on this earth, I can go into any closet, I can go into any mind, I can access that information at any location that I choose. It is independent of space, therefore, I can access that information any place in on the planet or off of it if I choose; and it is independent of countermeasures, I believe I put a caveat on the last one, not a caveat on the first, small caveat on the last one because all of the research has not been done at this stage on the counter measures.

There are indications that some counter measures are possible, we have bumped on indications of counter measures but that piece of research has not been done at this stage of the game, so I believe it is independent of most counter measures, I am not totally convinced that is independent of all countermeasures. What is remote viewing not, if I can screw my English there? What will RV not do, OK? Well, first of all, it is not a panacea, it is not a end-all to all end-alls, it provides threads, it provides ideas, it provides detailed information, but it should not, we do not and should not be used as an absolute panacea, an absolute truth; it needs to be, that information that's gleaned from the RV set needs to be taken and co-related with all other information that you know in order to make the picture that you then makes decisions and recommendations from there is a lot of differences between using it as an end-all and using it as a tool, as a tool to provide you information that you- cannot get in other ways and to make sense of the picture that you think, there is a lot of difference between using it as gospel and using it as a tool to be integrated with the rest of the tools that are available.

What is it not? It does not - not at this stage of the game, do numbers well nor does it do words well or letters well. For instance, I could not go in and read a report that is in somebody's safe, I might be able to get the essence of that report but I could not read it, I can get sensings of it but I cannot at this stage of the game go in and do the reading, and numbers or particular hard letters are hard, OK?

What is it not? It is not a tool to be used by the callous or the undisciplined or those people who have for want of another word or another thought, let me call it an evil intent and I know that word has all kinds of ramifications, but it is tool that is to be used to help, not a tool that is to be used for illicit purposes, so that gives you a little bit of an idea of what it can do and what it can't do. I frequently get the question what is the difference between RV and natural or personal psychic abilities, I get that question very frequently from people who don't understand when they listen to the words that I am talking about, so they say, ah! but I know a psychic who does, so they say what is the difference between what you do in a RV sense and what they do in a pure natural, psychic fashion or manner?

There are a couple of differences and the first one is the training- The training for our viewers in a one year, six- stage training course, one year six stages, OK? so there is an incredible amount of very carefully monitored, very carefully metered very carefully controlled process that is taught to all of our remote viewers, and as Steven (Greer--ed.) indicated, I am the Chairman of the Board of this company called PSI TECH and we have six remote viewers, all of whom have been through the one year training as well as a lot of experience of doing RV itself, each one of those is a very well trained, very controlled person, very highly disciplined individual- Sometime ago when we had the draft, we haven't had the draft in the Army for a long period of time, but at one time the Pentagon was considering the kind of people it ought to draft, the ones that would really make good soldiers, and the conclusion was that they should be married, and somebody said, I understand, very simple, they learn how to take orders. Well, yes, true of the people who do the RV, they must be willing to follow the instructions, the sort of programming, the methodology that is used.

The second major discipline in all of this is that there is a very carefully established protocol or methodology through which and by which remote viewers are actually given their task and how they do both their RV as well as their reporting, so there is an incredibly tight protocol established to make sure that the information that we are getting out of the data bank--and let me throw out a theorem, that there is a huge data bank that exists out there that can be accessed, OK? there is a huge bank out there, all you got to do is go access it, who can access it? Anybody, anybody can access that data bank, alright, these remote viewers did not have any special psychic abilities before we select to training, they didn't, OK? they were just like you and I, or almost, but pretty close, they were just straight normal people who we trained to do this process.

Incidentally, how many people in this audience either think they are, or believe they are or play at being a psychic, or do psychic channeling, readings or anything (It seems that first there is only a small show of hands that grows at Stubblebine's urging--ed.) The difference between the two is first of all the training, second the controlled mechanisms in which we handle our remote viewers. Now let me kind of walk you through a typical problem to give you some sense of how it occurs. Lets assume an air plane crash, its relatively easy task to do, all we do is we take three of our viewers and we will tell those three viewers as much information about the crash as we know, a) it was an air plane, b) it was Pan-Am, c) it was flying over wherever, Colorado, and it was at such and such a time and it disappeared, and no one knows where it went, OK? What happened? The other three, now, we don't do that, all we do with the other three is we give them a controlled coordinate, incidentally the controlled coordinate is not the coordinate of the plane crash site because we don't know where that is, it is nothing more than a control for the controller of the exercise to measure that all of the remote viewers are on the same sheet of music.

Each of the viewers now goes in and independently does his or her thing--incidentally all of our viewers right now are males, however, I have had female viewers and so that's not, how do I express it? Right now we are very sexist, we have all males, however, that is not a bar to do RV, as a matter of fact women do very, very well as long as we can get them to the controlled protocol. I will tell you that one who we tried to train who was already a natural psychic, did not work well because the natural psychic ability kept overriding the control mechanisms and therefore we were having trouble making sure that everything stayed within the discipline and within the control box. The all six then go off independently and do their thing, and when they come back, they write out their report and provide each of the six reports to the controller, the controller now takes the six reports and begins to analyze the reports to see where the similarities and where the differences are, and from that, you then decide, or the controller decides whether you need to send that viewer back into session again for additional detail. For instance, and it frequently happens that one viewer will get a tail number or an indication of a tail number, you know, I told you numbers are hard but the tail numbers are relatively large numbers and so sometimes you can get an indication of the tail number; the second one will get you a crash site that is on top of a mountain or a third of the way down the mountain; another one may get you a piece of a coordinate or get you a coordinate, know exactly where that is, another one will get you that everybody is dead or most are dead but some are still alive, so you get different essences out of the six remote viewers.

Incidentally the remote viewers do not have to be on a single location, and most of ours are not, many are in the larger Washington metropolitan area, but one of them is in Minnesota and another one is out in Kansas, so they do not need to be co-located when they are doing their work. Each session incidentally is about a 45 minute session, we find that you go much beyond 45 minutes and you are beginning to run into lapses or a lapse in the energy field and you begin to slip off the quality of the information, so we try to limit the sessions to about 45 minutes. After the controller has taken a look at each one of the reports, he then decides on what additional work needs to be done, do you send it back to get additional data or you are satisfied with what you got, you have enough now that you can go out and write a report for the individual or the company that paid you to do the RV to begin with, so that gives you at least a sense of how one of these projects would work.

Let me talk now about some examples. I mentioned that you can go into the past or you can go into the future. Tomorrow, I believe, you get two sessions, one is with Scott Jones who I believe is going to talk about Tunguska, which was a project that PSI TECH did, and obviously, the event in Tunguska happened way in the past; you also will also heard from Dr. Laibow, she is not talking about her project, but PSI TECH did a project for her and for TREAT on the Phobos-2 probe, that information was quite revealing incidentally; however, we have not released any of it at this stage of the game because we are working with the Soviets and trying to get confirmation from the Soviet system as to the accuracy of the PSI TECH RV report-so that we can get some co-relation as to the quality of project, a) that large and b) that complex. So incidentally the Phobos-2 probe disappeared off of Soviet radar screen just suddenly, it was operating and suddenly it wasn't, and so there was a lot of curiosity about what occurred, and there has been a lot of speculation as to what really occurred to the craft, and if the remote viewers are correct, it will be a quite a revelation when we finally get the confirmation that we think is available out of the Soviet Union.

In any event, those two are projects of the past, let me now talk about projects that were of the future, that are no longer of the future, but they were at the time that they were done. One was a very large corporation here in the United States wanted to know what the power source was going to be on the lunar station on the moon when it finally got there, and we said, that sounds like an interesting project, so we took a look at that. Now that had a couple of components, one was what was going to be the power source, and also there was an indication that they wanted to mine the rock on the moon, the lunar rock, in order to extract both the hydrogen and oxygen, you combine the two you get water which you can drink, but you also get energy which you can use for an energy source, but you also get oxygen which you can breath, so it sounded kind of neat. However, when we looked at it, that's not what we found, what we found was a small, portable existing nuclear reactor, OK? That sounded neat because it was already here, it existed on this earth, there was one problem with it, it wasn't in the United States, as a matter of fact it was in the Soviet Union, and everybody said, oh my goodness gracious, that can't possibly be, as a matter of fact the client in this case said, I didn't want to hear that answer, OK? I really didn't want to hear that, besides I can't get to that reactor anyway because the Soviet is still a closed system, OK?

Well, I don't know whether you have been reading the newspapers lately, but there is or has been in the newspapers a system, a Soviet system called TOPAZ, and TOPAZ, the United States just bought or just arranged to buy, I don't think its gotten here yet but it arranged to get it here, and it is a small portable existing nuclear reactor that is suitable for space, OK? and that work was done for this corporation about three years before, two and a half years earlier, so the work was done but it was done for a future event, and in essence at least part of that future event appears to have taken place...

The lunar exploration is actually up there and operating and that's the system they have, I can't (do anything about it?) because we haven't got there yet, that's what the indicators are. The second kind of interesting project dealt with again a very large U.S. corporation that had extensive interest in the price of oil in the Middle East and what would be the impact of what was going on in the Middle East and what it would be like after it was over; in other words, they really were interested in after the dust settled over in that part of the world, what was the situation going to be so that this corporation could make up its mind how it wanted to posture itself vis-a-vis the then time frame, now the time frame was August 1990 and that was during Desert Shield, not desert Storm but desert Shield. The project was to look inside (Saddam) Hussein's head and find out what he was thinking and where he was going and what he was going to do, now this was ahead of time, I want you to know this was before Desert Storm, this was Desert Shield, alright? The attempts, in spite of two assassination attempts he would still be there and he would still be in charge, OK? Well, one of those assassination attempts has been verified, I've never seen any intelligence or information or corroboration about the second assassination attempt, I know that one was attempted, OK? He obviously is still alive. The second piece of that not asked for, but clearly indicated as picked up by the viewers as they looked at it, was a huge oil fire, huge oil conflagration. Well that's kind of interesting because that obviously also occurred.

Now let me get back to the sort of the psychics versus the remote viewers because I don't admit this and God and this is on tape too, Jesus Oh Boy! I am not a trained remote viewer, I am not a natural psychic, OK? However, I do get, I am highly visual and I do get lots of interesting images; about two months before the fires actually occurred in the Middle East, before Hussein actually set fire to the oil wells. I had seen an incredibly dramatic image; and it was of a huge fire; now the fire, I can see this incredible set of black smoke and I could see vertically what to be sticks, you know, I could see the base of, and I concluded that is was a forest fire, OK? and so i took it out of Kuwait and I moved it somewhere else in the world because there are no trees in Kuwait to have a forest fire with, you know, logic tells you that there are no trees, therefore you cannot have a forest fire, therefore, it cannot be Kuwait, boom, all right? Wrong! Wrong! The minutes those pictures came on TV I knew instantaneously that that's what I had seen, and what I had missed were the trees with oil rigs, OK?

Now, what happens in that case is analytic overlay, and it is part of the protocol to remove that overlay from remote viewers so that you don't get that misconclusion or that misdirection, it is precisely what we do in the controlled process, protocol that extracts the overlay away from the experience of the individuals See, my experience says if you got stick you got trees - got trees you got forest fires, if you got forest fires you are not in Kuwait right? Boom! See the logic? All of that was overlay that I put there myself, now we don't allow that with our remote viewers and we do have a protocol that stops that dead in its tracks and removes that overlay do that we don't get the experiential piece in there, we get access to the data is in the data base to bring it back and give it pure, that's the system and that's the primary difference between the sort of the pure psychic and what we believe to be the remote viewers, or our trained remote viewers. (Jokes about onions with long ears that occasionally bring tears to your eyes) That really is the neat part about remote viewing because occasionally you get right on the money, so much so that bring tears to your eyes if you are right there, that's kind of the essence of the difference between those two elements.

Let me talk to you about where you might take this kind of a tool and do something with it, and again I am not sure I want to be on tape for this. We have looked at Mars, we have looked at UFOs, we spent some time looking at Mars, tomorrow I believe that you are going to hear a presentation on the Mars phenomena, and if I am correct, that you will be told that there are structures on the surface of Mars. I will tell you for the record that there are structures underneath the surface of Mars that cannot be seen by the Voyager cameras that went by in 1976, which is what you are going to hear tomorrow; I will also tell you that there are machines on the surface of Mars and there are machines under the surface of Mars that you can look at, you can find out in detail, you can see what they are, where they are, who they are and a lot of detail about them.

Now, you can do that through RV and I defy any sensor anywhere in this world today that can do that kind of analysis or give you those kinds of leads, it just doesn't exist today. Now, someday we will put a Mars station, someday we will go there, someday we will see all of this, someday we will find it, but today you do not have any capability to verify what I am saying so I can I say it, which makes it nice. As far as the UFOs are concerned, they can be accessed, they can be tracked, we have looked at the propulsion system for them, that's not a hard job, you can track them back to where they come from, whether they come from a place here on this planet or whether they come from a place on another planet, they are trackable and you can take a look inside as well as outside, so again it is a tool that is available to be used for the UFO research and I guess, I guess that's the reason that I am standing on this platform in spite of my misgivings and feeling a little bit nervous like a tree on a Lassie program.

Last but not least, let me explore the fact that this technology has not been proven in terms of a Mars or a UFO kind of a tool, I will tell you, however, though, because one of the things which I am sure is going through everybody's mind is what is the statistical success rate if you will, how good are you, how good are your remote viewers, where do they stand. Are they 50-50, because I can flip a coin and do that; are they at 51 versus 49, because if they are that's better than the flip of a coin. I will tell you that its better than a B-plus, better than a B-plus, now for all of you who remember, I had trouble remembering that far back to High School, it was about 200 years ago, but if my recollection is correct, B-plus was about 85 or better. If you do it properly and begin to take the project, get the large overview, take it down like a telescopic lens to the next layer, take it down to the next telescopic lens cut out into the next layer and keep going down until you are down to the nuts and bolts, that number can go as high as 95 percent success rate, it is a phenomenal tool, it is a phenomenal tool. We have failures, yeah, we have some, not often but we do, occasionally you get noise, you get an override of some sort, and that's why I said I am not sure about all of the counter measures at this stage of the game, OK?

(He then answered questions from the audience).

(Question from audience on further details about PSI TECH's protocols)

OK, let me answer the last one first, the protocol was developed by Ingo Swann who is himself a natural psychic, and he has patented the protocol, that's first and foremost; the second, where we get the errors, the errors appear to come out of interference, now what is interference? Interference appears to be some counter measure of some sort, so there appears to be some areas that we are having trouble accessing, it appears that when you have trouble accessing them that there is a wall that has been built up, I don't know, I guess I'd call it a psychic wall of some sort. (Audience interjects comment) You get, you sort of bang up against a wall, you go bonk. I have just been reminded that the president of PSI TECH and is himself a remote viewer, but he doesn't do much, he acts more as the control.

(Question about mental state of the viewers)
Completely passive, totally passive obviously is a state of mind, the individual state of mind, heavily Theta, for those of you who understand brain waves, its a Theta brain wave state of mind that they are in, we've actually measured some of them and they are very heavy in the Theta brain wave arena, but it is totally passive as far as I can tell, there is no active instrument other than the mind that is accessing the information.

(Question on to what extent are major governments using RV)
I haven't the foggiest freaking ass idea (laughter). You did see foreign governments, that's what I thought you said. (Questioner clarifies he said major governments). Rule one, I will not talk about anything that preceded my retirement, OK? excuse me, I will not talk about anything that preceded my retirement that is classified, that's a better way of expressing it, so anybody that and I have been asked that question over and over and over and over again, I made an oath, I have no intention of breaking that oath. Now, let's talk about foreign governments because that's a different story. The Soviets have been doing RV, they call it extra-sense, they have been doing that for years, at one time the Soviet budget, the second highest part of the Soviet budget was in paranormal, parapsychological experts that's not true today but that was true probably six years ago. at least six years ago, that was a true statement, so the second highest right behind the defense budget was the money for the parapsychologcial/paranormal work, so if there is anybody who doesn't believe that the Soviets have been playing in that business, does not understand what they are doing. We have been in contact, and as a matter of fact to my knowledge, we had on the platform at TREAT-IV in Atlanta, we had on the platform simultaneously the president of PSI TECH and the president of a Soviet enterprise, civilian enterprise headed by Ivan Sokolov, who does the same thing in the Soviet Union, I think that's a first, OK? And what we are trying to do together is to devise a project that will use the capabilities of both organizations, and the one we are focusing on right at the moment is finding and cleaning up the environmental hazards so that we begin to work on some of the incredible environmental problems that exist in the Soviet Union, so we picked the environment, its benign, it doesn't get this country upset or this government upset, it doesn't get their government upset, its something that needs to be done and so we try to pick something that its an absolutely benign topic so that everyone can support it forward, I don't know if that answers all of your questions, but it gives you a little bit of a ramble. Yes, ma'am.

(Question on UFOs).
We got ten years of data that's stacked up, that we kept in the closet for many of the same reasons that a lot of, well, there are people who are just barely now holding up there hands and saying, yes, I think I believe in one those, at least publicly, there is about ten years of data that we got stacked up on the UFO phenomenon, that's the good news; the bad news is that its not all in the kind of order that it needs to be, so it needs to be gone through it, sort it, begin to analyze it, the problem with that of course it costs money and money doesn't grow everywhere for such projects, so somebody's got to be interested in doing that but a lot of it exists, yes?

(Question on sunspots' interference with RV)
I don't know, he wants to know whether sunspots would impact or affect the ability of the remote viewer to do the RV job, the reason I hesitate is because I never even thought about it, now what I have thought about or those areas where we begin to get what appear to be interference and appear to be counter measures and trying to sort that set out and make sense of it. Now, what I haven't thought about it is whether that was a natural occurring phenomena or an intentionally on someone else's part who is in fact trying to interfere or in effect jam our own ability to access, so the answer is I don't know, it would be a very nice research project.

(Question about your agency, which he reacts to, PSI TECH)
Yes, we can talk about that. (Whether PSI TECH has been contacted to work on counter measures) No.

(Question on tracking of UFOs)
(Question about a rumor circulating on the Roswell crash).
No, stop that, please stop that rumor, first of all PSI TECH's president has not looked at Roswell, OK? He has not looked at Roswell, now there was a thought that he would like to, and that has been blown from the thought that I'd like to look at it to the thought that, you know, and he went uuuuuuh, out of sight, I mean, it followed a UFO cunre, OK, so kill that rumor. Way back in the corner.

(Question on Mars machinery).
Its moving, the machinery is moving, so I don't know, if its from a leftover civilization its got a long-live battery, its better than any of the dolls we put out on Christmas, I tell you, OK?

(Question on more of the same).
Yeah, its a structure, that's what I say, there are structures on the surface, and incidentally I don't want to take thunder away from anyone tomorrow, because you are going to get a chit-chat about that tomorrow and I don't want to trail on somebody else's toes, all I that I am saying is that there are structures on top, there are structures underneath, there are machines on top ahhhh I got a UFO!!! (Laughter) Zooong and another alien hits the dust. OK, we need to warp this in short order.

(Question on whether viewers need to be in trance).
All the viewers that we chosen so far are known quantities, there are all people that I know personally, and that's very important because it goes back to that pitch that I made or that notion that I made on what RV was not in the beginning, and I cannot afford to have anybody that does not have absolute total integrity and absolute total that I can totally trust, so I demand total integrity, totally integrative person, because I don't want this thing done in a way that will in any shape, form or fashion be construed as being outside the limits of normal conduct, so they are chosen very carefully. The second thing is, do they go into a trance? Well, I think mentioned we measured some of them and they are in a Theta brain wave state. OK, one more.

(Question on crop circles).
No, only because, you know, we are a for profit organization, PSI TECH is a for profit organization, OK? And if somebody would like to have the crop circles looked at, we would be more than happy to look at crop circles. Now there has been some very casual looking, you know, just to kind of test what it was and what was going on, and so there is some minor information, but we have not really done that as a process. OK, let me say in conclusion, I think I want to turn that tape back there because I am not sure that I want any of this on tape. (End of tape)

Amazing what you can find on the web these days.

Having been a part of the Intlligence Corps for 23 years I am familiar with this work and efforts by the Soviets in the same area as discusssed by MAJOR GENERAL ALBERT N. STUBBLEBINE, III

Very low frequency (VLF) sound (20-35 KHz), or low-frequency RF modulations can cause nausea, vomiting and abdominal pains. "Some very low frequency sound generators, in certain frequency ranges, can cause the disruption of human organs and, at high power levels, can crumble masonry (18)." The CIA had a similar program in 1978 called Operation Pique, which included bouncing radio or microwave signals off the ionosphere to affect mental functions of people in slected areas, including Eastern European nuclear installations (19). Non-Lethality: John B. Alexander, the Pentagon's Penguin by Armen Victorian

Retired Major General Albert N. Stubblebine (Former Director of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command) and Alexander are on the board of a "remote viewing" company called PSI-TECH. The company also employs Major Edward Dames (ex Defence Intelligence Agency), Major David Morehouse (ex 82nd Airborne Division), and Ron Blackburn (former microwave scientist and specialist at Kirkland Air Force Base). PSI-TECH has received several government contracts. For example, during the Gulf War crisis the Department for Defense asked it to use remote viewing to locate Saddam's Scud missiles sites. Last year (1992) the FBI sought PSI-TECH's assistance to locate a kidnapped Exxon executive (23). Non-Lethality: John B. Alexander, the Pentagon's Penguin by Armen Victorian

Alexander is a friend of Vice President Al Gore Jnr, their relationship dating back to 1983 when Gore was in Alexander's Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP). NLP "presented to selected general officers and Senior Executive Service members (27)" a set of techniques to modify behaviour patterns (28). Among the first generals to take the course was the then Lieutenant General Maxwell Thurman, who later went on to receive his fourth star and become Vice-Chief of Staff at the Army and Commander Southern Command (29). Among other senior participants were Tom Downey and Major General Stubblebine, former Director of the Army Intelligence Security Command. Non-Lethality: John B. Alexander, the Pentagon's Penguin by Armen Victorian

"In 1983, the Jedi master (from the Star Wars movie - author) provided an image and a name for the Jei Project (30)." Jedi Project's aim was to seek and "construct teachable models of behaviorable/physical excellence using unconventional means (31)." According to Alexander the Jedi Project was to be a follow-up to Neuro-Linguistic Programming skills. By using the influence of friends such as Major General Stubblebine, who was then head of the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, he managed to fund Jedi. In reality the concept was old hat, re-christened by Alexander. The original idea which was to show how "human will power and human concentration affect performance more than any other single factor (32)" using NLP skills, was the brainchild of three independent people; Fritz Erikson, a Gestalt therapist, Virginia Satir, a family therapist and Erick Erickson, a hypnotist. Non-Lethality: John B. Alexander, the Pentagon's Penguin by Armen Victorian

In a recent telephone conversation with the author (34), Janet Morris confirmed John Alexander's involvement in mind control and psychotronic projects in the Los Alamos National Laboratories. Alexander and his team have recently been working with Dr Igor Smirnov, a psychologist from the Moscow Insitute of Psychocorrelations. They were invited to the U.S. after Janet Morris' visit to Russia in 1991. There she was shown the technique which was pioneered by the Russian Department of Psycho-Correction at Moscow Medical Academy. The Russians employ a technique to electronically analyse the human mind in order to influence it. They input subliminal command messages, using key words transmitted in "white noise" or music (35). Using an infrasound very low frequency-type transmission, the acoustic psycho-correction message is transmitted via bone conduction - ear plugs would not restrict the message. To do that would require an entire body protection system. According to the Russians the subliminal messages by-pass the conscious level and are effective almost immediately. Non-Lethality: John B. Alexander, the Pentagon's Penguin by Armen Victorian

The Project continues...what have we unleased?

Thinking outside the box: exploring unconventional methods to fight unconventional terrorist threats: an interview with Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, Member, Executive Advisory Board. American Board for Certification in Homeland Security: CHS-III
Forensic Examiner, The, November, 2003 by Erica B. Simons


Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, CHS-III and member of the Executive Advisory Board for the American Board for Certification in Homeland Security, graduated from the U.S. Military Academy (West Point) and served in Europe, Korea and Vietnam during his 32-year career with the U.S. Army. He is an inductee of the U.S. Army Intelligence Hall of Fame and the recipient of the Distinguished Service Medal, Bronze Star, Air Medal with five clusters and numerous other service medals and citations.

PSI TECH's Position On The A.I.R. Report

In 1994, congress directed the CIA to assume responsibility for the DIA's remote viewing program. The American Institutes For Research was tasked by the CIA to conduct an evaluation of remote viewing's effectiveness. The evaluation was headed by Jessica Utts, a statistician at the University of California, Davis and Ray Hyman, a skeptic and a professor at the University of Oregon.

The only material provided to the researchers for evaluation was work conducted by the personnel of STARGATE, the final incarnation of the government's remote viewing program, which was passed to CIA control in 1995.

STARGATE, however, bore no resemblance to its progenitor Army psychic spy unit, which operated as a classified entity for more than a decade (1977-1988) and was overseen by the Defense Intelligence Agency.

The Army operational unit had been continuously employed, since 1978, in support of actual missions, first for DoD, later for the entire national intelligence community, particularly in cases where all other intelligence penetration attempts had failed, or were not available. GRILL FLAME, (which was listed in the INSCOM books as "Detachment G") had consisted of soldiers and a few civilians who possessed varying degrees of natural psychic ability. These operatives utilized altered states to achieve (varying degrees) of target contact.

The Breakthrough

In 1983, a brilliant psychic, under the direction of a physicist at SRI, developed an accurate model of how the collective unconscious communicates (target) information to conscious awareness. He believed that the ability to remote view, like language, is an innate faculty - a birthright - but must be learned to be effective. His model provided a rigid set of instructions which theoretically allowed anyone to actually be trained to produce accurate, detailed target data. To test the model, the Army sent six soldiers to him as a prototype trainee group.

The results were more than anyone had anticipated. In six months, the Army team members were producing psychically derived data with more consistency and accuracy than the most renown natural (untrained) psychics alive. Now designated CENTER LANE, the unit took a "lets see what this baby can do" approach, replacing the unit's former intelligence collection methodology with the breakthrough technique.

With the increased military rigor and discipline, combined with a team approach and countless hours of applying the new tool against a wide range of operational and training targets, the techniques became dependable enough to be used in support of life-or-death missions, or special operations in which the application of deadly (military) force was authorized.

In 1986, the Army passed the highly controversial unit to DIA. SUN STREAK (ferreted away in DIA's Scientific and Technical Intelligence Directorate as DT-S), was a bastard element. This is because DIA is an analytical agency - it has no charter to collect intelligence.

Because of this formal prohibition, the unit's focus shifted almost entirely to developing and teaching advanced remote viewing training techniques. Bust as a displaced operations unit, they began slipping in numerous operational missions right under the nose of the administrator, a civilian who had been assigned by DIA to administratively oversee the unit. The unit continued to go outside of authorized channels to pass "PSIINT" (psychic intelligence) to former clients in the intelligence community and classified research community, particularly to Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Biological Threat Analysis Center (which PSI TECH's founder had helped to establish during a prior assignment, by supplying the U.S. President and NSC with proof that the Soviets had clandestinely developed a new generation of biochemical warfare agents).

STARGET, the C.I.A. and the A.I.R. Report

By 1989, the civilian adminstrator had replaced all of the trained military professionals with psychics virtually taken "off the street," thus rendering the project ineffective for intelligence collection purposes - but highly entertaining for certain civilian officials who came to visit DIA's "witches" to obtain personal psychic "readings."

STARGATE, evaluated by A.I.R., consisted of three individuals, only one of which was a partially trained military remote viewer. The other two individuals, one a former secretary, were tarot card readers and channelers, employed by DIA since 1987. Nothing of value or significance occured in this unit from 1991 until 1994. The lack of military training, discipline and control which had been present in the Army's psychic spy unit lead STARGATE to be a complete failure.

During this time period, PSI TECH, Inc., which had been established in 1989 and employed the best and brightest of the former military trained remote viewers, continued to be tasked against targets through official channels in the D.I.A. and the U.S. intelligence community.

The A.I.R. researchers were nto provided access to the more than a decade of operational work performed by the trained remote viewers in the Army's psychic spy unit. Through his limited contact with the unclassified research, Ray Hyman unwittingly became a "Judas Goat," helping to keep the Soviets (and, for operational security reasons, the American taxpayers), in the dark about both the existence of the Army's unit and, more importantly, its effectiveness.

The AIR report fails to provide an accurate assessment of remote viewing as an intelligence collection tool. At best, it provides some insight into the failed methods and operational capability of the three members of "STARGATE," but it ignores the vast majority of the years historic remote viewing data provided by trained military remote viewers in the Army and DIA remote viewing program tht was utilized in support of actual missions, and which remains classified as of this writing.