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     Mohideen Ibramsha |
Now, if on November 9th there is a major attack … Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:16 pm: Ivan I fervently hope there is no more war. One of my intentions of posting about a possible war after the elections was that by airing that idea it might happen that it does not occur. Notice that after 9/11 any potential attack that was mentioned aloud did not take place. In that spirit I hope that there be no new hostilities after the election. Still the following developments are note worthy. http://wholelifetimes.com/2006/11/excerpt0611.html === Their newest book looks to the role propaganda, PR and marketing played in our nation’s willingness to execute war … Each of these twists and turns in policy has been accompanied by a combination of triumphal rhetoric about America’s lofty aims and dire warnings about the consequences that will follow if America fails to act. … As this book neared completion, American politicians and pundits had begun to talk about attacking Iran, using rhetoric very similar to the arguments that led to the current quagmire in Iraq. … Rather than an expansion of the war, we believe that public disillusionment and the growing civil war in Iraq will eventually force US policymakers to withdraw American troops. === But would that happen? http://www.nysun.com/article/42578?page_no=2 === It is almost like he has thrown caution to the wind," G. Terry Madonna, a political science professor and pollster at Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster, Pa., told The New York Sun. "He has forsaken any effort to make this about his seniority, his experience, the millions he has brought home in appropriations. He has turned this into a debate on the future of the country." Mr. Santorum, however, said he has emphasized national security all along. He pointed to his sponsorship of the Iran Freedom and Support Act, which was signed into law with modifications in September. === What would that act do for the security of USA? http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-sawyer29oct29,0,3390725.story?coll=la- opinion-rightrail === Four weeks ago, Congress enacted and President Bush signed the Iran Freedom Support Act, a resolution very much in the spirit of the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act. It mandates sanctions against any country aiding Iran's nuclear programs, even those to which that country is legally entitled under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. … But if the confrontation over Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program ends in war — initiated by this administration or the next — you can bet this law will be cited as proof that Congress was onboard all along. === Let us turn optimists. Let us assume that the People speak and that based on the elections to be held on November 7, 2006 both the Congress and the Senate comes under the control of the Democrats. Let us also assume that the intransigence of Iran needs to be countered. Further assume that the UN Security Council is deadlocked on a resolution authorizing war on Iran. What happens if the administration starts a war on Iran and causes avoidable bloodshed? Can the new Congress and the Senate clarify that the ‘Iran Freedom Support Act’ did not authorize the war against Iran? Assuming that the Congress and the Senate do explain can this administration be impeached on the basis of starting the war on Iran without authorization? Can we say a future war on Iran soon after the election would handicap reason? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8508100451 === Addressing a press conference here on Wednesday, commander-in-chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Major General Seyed Yahya Rahim Safavi said that the war games to be carried out by the IRGC's fourfold forces, i.e. IRGC air force, ground force, navy and Basij (mobilized) troops, will last till November 11. … He said the war games would start with the launching of tens of missiles, including Shahab 2s and 3s with armed warheads and a range of beyond 1000 kilometers and hundreds of rockets and other missiles each with different ranges starting from 150 kilometers. === This war game is the most stupid act one can imagine! | ||
| Ivan |
Iran's Ambitions are not to be Ignored. Iran is now under scrutiny, for possible war footing by both Iran and its nuclear ambitions, as well as the West weary of further attacks by radical Islamists. Here is a good article by BBC: Mixedd reception for Iran's ex-president. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6104638.stm The feeling one gets from former president Khatami's address is that efforts at liberalism in Iran, something the urban educated people would welcome, is hard in coming while the ayatollah system controls through their Council of Guardians. Throw in the Mahdi complex touted by now president Ahmadhijad, and one gets a strange mix of reality and myth. How does one understand modern Iran, when it is so deeply rooted in the past? Khatami's good intentions may be blocked by the Guardians, so what do we get? It looks a muddle. On the other hand, here is Daniel Pipes article "Decision Time on Iran", where a harder stance against Iran may be justified. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25234 "Admittedly, these no-war, no-nukes scenarios are creative. But they no longer offer have a prospect of success, for the situation has become crude and binary: either the U.S. government deploys force to prevent Tehran from acquiring nukes, or Tehran acquires them." Crude and binary is what it must come down to, if Tehran will have nukes, and cannot be ignored. However, war with a nuclear Iran is a looming reality, which may end in myth come true, or the 'end of days'. I hope there is a non-binary third option, God willing. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
I hope there is a non-binary third option, God willing. Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 07:08 pm: Ivan Iran desires to develop the technology for increasing the concentration of the fissile materials claiming that the technology is needed for power industry. The West is apprehensive that the enriched Uranium could be used to make nuclear bombs. Russia as the technology supplier would like to retain its business prospects not only with Iran but with other developing countries without nuclear plants. What about shifting the plant to produce enriched Uranium to the Russian soil and letting the Iranians operate the plant. The Iranians develop the technology that they desire. The enriched Uranium stays inside Russia which any way has umpteen number of nuclear weapons. As regards the energy for Iranian projects, the power reactors are assembled inside Iran under the direct supervision of IAEA. The fuel rods prepared by Iranians in the Russian located plant are placed and sealed under the direct supervision of IAEA. These plants are designed such that any attempt to access the fuel rods inside the power plants would ring alarms in IAEA and other monitoring centers. The spent fuel rods are shipped to the Iranian run enrichment facility inside Russia and held under joint Russian and Iranian control. Such an arrangement permits Iran to train her subjects on the technology and removes the anxiety of the West by keeping the enriched fuel on the Russian soil. Could the above work as a third option? | ||
| Andnomas |
U.S. officer describes disarray in Iraqi army http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/02/training.iraqis/index.html Iraq and cultural differences makes war capability nebulous. It's that "inshallah fatalism" , as Lt. Col. Grunow explains: "One trait of Iraqis is that they are "fatalistic, surrendering their future to the will of Allah. This explains how they can continue to function despite daily car bombings, atrocities and murders that have touched nearly every family." He wrote the "most frustrating aspect" of this viewpoint is that "it translates into a lack of diligence and detailed planning."" Cultural differences not only on what freedom means, or democracy, but also how they fight. Maybe we're done training, and so now must leave it to the Iraqi's with their "God's will" futurist fatalism. Better if it were not so, but wishing does not make it so, as "inshallah" is not a strategy. God help all the good, freedom loving Iraqis when Western Alliance pulls out. Freedom means they must deal with their own devils. Four years is all we could give them, same as WW II, then up to them. Or if only conditional pull out, maintain Allied bases in Kurdistan on Iran border, fly overs on Syrian border, and bomb anything that moves. Israel knew what to do on Lebanon border. If they don't like it, tell them it's "inshallah's will", and tough tushkies. War is hell if you can't control your imams vitriolic hate. | ||
| Naive |
Sometimes regions develop dictatorships because that is what is required to cull the masses, to handle the many social intricacies of that culture. Our government destroyed the balance that was the Iraqi society. I won't get into the reasoning or justifications. What I will say is that, invading a country with full knowledge of the long term social and economic chaos it will cause, is in itself a form of global terrorism! Is it any wonder our government is hated abroad? The irresponsibility of this administration with the Iraq situation is outrageous. So too is the American public's apathy. People over there are dying and we are the cause! I will not go so far as Mohideen with the conspiracy theories. But I will say our government has always been opportunistic in its usage of world political affairs in order to affect control mechanisms at home (homeland security). What an oxymoron! They monitor us, but cut spending to schools, keeping our nation's youth and underpriviledged in a perpetual state of ignorance and economic deprivation. We are made to be ignorant consumers who seek and measure happiness through material gain. We are expected to be blindly patriotic and loyal to a government that answers to no one. See how quickly criticism arose over Kerry's remarks. Speak a word against the war effort and you are not a real American! We are so quick to condemn those in the Muslim world for the "backwardness" of their belief system, but look at us. We let our government run wild, pulling whatever wool over our eyes they wish. And we turn a blind eye to an atrocious situation of our creating, because we have let our government tell us it is the right thing to do. Indeed, war handicaps reason! Only a fool would believe our government does not use this knowledge in a psychological warfare against the freewill of its own people! Naive | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Could we heave a sigh of relief? http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=279765 === November 02, 2006 It was synchronized perfectly with reports of a massive U.S. naval buildup, allegedly in preparation for a strike against Iran. Just two days ago, the USS Enterprise Carrier Strike Group (CSG) passed the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower CSG in the Red Sea on its way back to Norfolk in the course of a regularly scheduled carrier rotation. The USS Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG) has already left the gulf and is now in the North Arabian Sea. Its replacement, the USS Boxer ESG, has split up, but the bulk of it remains in the Indian Ocean. These assets, plus the USS Essex ESG and the USS Kitty Hawk, which never moved farther than the South China Sea, might have appeared to be a mounting armada intended for a major military strike. However, only a few U.S. assets are currently in the Gulf, including one U.S. Coast Guard cutter, participating in the international "Leading Edge" exercise designed to interdict the proliferation of nuclear weapons. In and of itself, none of this movement was ever particularly suspicious, which is even more plainly evident now that the scheduled rotations have taken place. === http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2326293.php === The Enterprise group was relieved by the Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group, which departed Norfolk, Va., on Oct. 3 and transited the Suez Canal on Oct. 30. The two carriers steamed side-by-side in the Red Sea on Oct. 31. === It is clear that both the Enterprise and the Eisenhower could have participated in the exercises conducted by USA near Iran. The Eisenhower had taken 28 days to reach the Suez Canal from USA. Likewise the Enterprise is expected to take 4 weeks to reach USA. In the one week of Iranian exercises yet to be finished, both the Enterprise and Eisenhower are within striking distance of Iran. Even though theoretically only one Aircraft Carrier is assigned to the Gulf, both could be activated if necessary. We would love to believe that the possibility of war between USA and Iran has receded. Could we? Could we heave a sigh of relief? | ||
| anon |
Andnomas Your raised a very good point regarding the concept of Inshallah fatalism. It is at the core of the issue of wether or not the Iraqis will be able to salvage the situation or continue down the path towards civil war. When you put everything into the hands of God you surrender your freedom of action. This debate has raged within Christianity over the question of free will. In Christianity we call upon God to give us guidence and the strength to face the forces of darkness and evil that plauge this world rather than blindly accepting it as the will of God. In doing so we have built a technological society that is unmatched in history. Perhaps one day the Children of Islam will understand that demons are fought using tools other than bombs and weapons and that their own demons lay within themselves and that they are not the people of the west or rest of the world society. As Naive has said in her posting we have our own demons within our society that we know well and have the tools to fight them at the ballot box, in the courts and in the court of public opinion. One hopes one day that the Children of Islam will reach the point in their development where they understand this. As by way as an aside, I offer the following as a discussion of traditional demons that we war against. Today with science in the west in ascendence many of our old beliefs are under attack. The concept of God, Angels and Demons has been relegated to the releam of myth and quirks of nuero-chemestry. While I am a Christian I and firmly belive in the value of science and medicine, I also believe that there are points where science ends and we move into the realm of faith. In doing so our religon teaches us that we have the capability to face forces that are powerful beyond our understanding and with the power of God bring them to defeat. This concept is much more different then the fatalistic concept expressed by the concept of inshallah fatalism. At the root of each religon are some fundamental beliefs that shapes and guides how each society acts. For me I beleive that sometimes God takes a hand to aid his people like a wise perent does. He does not punish his children but gives them the strength to overcome what they are faced with. Much like the drug dealers and the like try and hook our kids on drugs and all the parents can do is fight them using the law and words to guide the children away from drugs do I think god acts to aid us in the fight against demons who tempt men to do their bidding. In the modern era we call drugs, alcohol and other things demons that plague us. For me I see them as signs and tools of men that have surrendered themselves to forces of darkness for temporal power and wealth. Members of my family are actively involved in the Chruches and hold degrees in Psychology, medicine and science. In a handful of cases very, very, very few cases, they have seen things that go beyound science. In one case it took the form of an exercism of a woman that worshiped satan, and sold her soul to him. During the exercism she spoke in tounges, knew things of each exercist that went beyond what a human could reasonably know. That woman after the exercism had no knowledge of what transpired during it and has gone on to live a normal happy life. In another case a women striken with cerebal palsy, began to speak in ancient aramaic in a nursing home. The staff did not know what to do. In the end when the doctors knew they had reached a point that reason and science ended they called a member of my family who was a deacon in a church to come. Under supervison of the doctors he performed an ancient ritual of blessing and the woman woke from the state and has gone on to live realtively normally since. What was said in aramaic is recordered and archived within my family member's church and accepted as an act of god. What she said after the event is that she felt much closer to god and asked for religous conseling. In the world of religion, poltics and science we in the west have come to a point where we recognize the need for seperation of church, science and state. In our religion unlike Islam we believe in an empowering god that gives us the strength to overcome forces arrayed against us and accept as a core principle the seperation of church and state. This concept has long served us well and aided our society in becoming the most advanced and wealthiest on the planet. In my world I firmly believe in seperation of church and state. In society I vote, follow its rules and act accordingly to its norms. In my world of religon my family and I are sometimes called upon to assist with things that transcend science and remain within the confines of the church. A key difference between Islam and Christianity Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Your raised a very good point regarding the concept of Inshallah fatalism. … When you put everything into the hands of God you surrender your freedom of action. Ed Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 07:47 am: anon I say Inshah Allah whenever I refer to a future action irrespective of the nature of the future action. What is the purpose of ‘Inshah Allah?’ Is it an excuse to inaction or the motivation for the utmost we could do? I believe it is the motivation to do our utmost; to strive as much as possible. Muslims have their congregational prayers on Friday afternoon. Some Imams advise their congregation to offer the prayer thinking that this could be their last prayer. Death and Life are completely in the hands of God. No one knows when death would reach him. So do the utmost if you are doing a good deed and desist from doing an evil act if the Satan persuades you to an evil act. When I use ‘Inshah Allah’ it mainly points to the possibility that I might not be alive at the future time referred to. It in no way means I leave the work to God. I do understand that whatever be my effort a thing would not materialize if it is not sanctioned by God. Still effort we must make. If something good that we seek – like avoiding the future confrontation between Iran and USA – does not materialize we accept that in God’s infinite wisdom this evil that has occurred has some larger good and start seeking that larger good. ‘Inshah Allah’ does not permit laziness; it calls for the best in us every time. | ||
| Ivan |
'Only 50 years left' for sea fish http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6108414.stm We may be facing the collapse of our oceanic eco-system due to over fishing to feed our growing appetite for protein, which we need to feed the growing population of the planet. This is more elemental than our rapacious appetite for material goods, much of which is wasteful. How many pairs of shoes does any human being need, or blouses and pants, or cars and televisions? Why do we waste trees on packaging? Where does it stop before we turn or world into a wasteland of landfills, or so pollute our waters and oceans that they become vast dead zones? For all our scientific and philosophical knowledge, we have not learned to co-exist with our natural world. Our material greed, which shows as mindless consumerism, is at odds with a more mindful and serene existence where all life of the planet is considered an ally rather than exploitable. Of course, when human conditions become dire enough, we like overcrowded rats in the laboratory fight against each other. War is a natural condition of overcrowding. But then, if this is true, why are highly populated countries like Japan not at civil war? Is it their superior educational system? Or is it their culture of politeness raised to an art that affords them to live without warring on each other? Is it their economic success since the last world war? Other crowded states such as Singapore, or Taiwan, or parts of Europe, the northeastern part of the United States, and things work. So overcrowding in itself may not be the problem as much as how crowded human beings learn to live together, mindful of each other. If our educational system incorporates in itself higher values of being, of living in agreement with one another, with a serenity with the natural world, with a love for living things and eco-systems that are revered rather than exploited, then there is hope. Our American democratic government, as Ed points out, is subject to change, each time we go to the voting booths. So in the end, it is not government per se that is the fault here, but the people themselves who have to be educated and raised up. Why is this not happening? Perhaps it is because war is such a focus, where preparedness for conflict and defense is valued more than harmony in all aspects of life, both material and spiritual. If we apply reason to that end, then perhaps there is hope to reverse the damage done, not only in nature but to our ways of life. We must be mindful that everything we do on the planet is interrelated. However, peace comes at a price, and to have no war we must have no enemies. And to have no enemies we must have the same freedoms universally, freedoms from coercions in our mind and physical beings, in order to give us room to grow beyond our war mindset. Therein lies the problem. How do we get from here to there? Belief in God had been with us from time primordial, but peace had remained illusive. So there is still something missing in our equation for peace. Reason still fails us. But why? The dying fish may be only the canary in the mine pit, with worse yet to come, alas. We may have mindlessly overmined our world. Is it not time we wake up? Otherwise, nature will correct, but the lessons learned from ignorance are hard. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
We may be facing the collapse of our oceanic eco-system due to over fishing to feed our growing appetite for protein, which we need to feed the growing population of the planet. Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 10:11 am: Ivan Fish might vanish in 50 years. Is it because of over fishing? For analogy does the population in advanced countries decline due to the increased murders? It declines because the enlightened couples often stop with just one child whereas we need two surviving children even to stabilize the population. I suspect the real reason for reduction in fish population is similar. It is not over fishing, it is reduced birth rate of fish. http://www.allthingsarctic.com/environment/ozone_uv.aspx === Higher UV levels can jeopardize the survival of fish larvae resulting dramatic impacts for the fishing industry. (Quoted from the bottom right side bar.) === The reduction of atmospheric ozone is an accident due to ignorance of mankind. We invented the CFCs and used them merrily until we were surprised by the ozone hole. Interestingly, we might yet survive and the fish might regenerate. From http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/1z2.html === CFCs were banned globally by the Montreal Protocol on substances that deplete the Ozone layer-1987 (and further amendments). As they have such long atmospheric lifetimes (the longest lived have lifetimes of the order of 100 years) it will take around another 50 years until all the CFC's released so far have been destroyed in the stratosphere and ozone concentrations stabilise. === So it is my understanding that we might still survive. May I suggest we build artificial ponds covered to reduce the sun light and nurture the larvae until they become large enough to survive the natural UV and release them to the ocean? Then we might have more protein than our need for mankind. | ||
| Ivan |
Science demands we offer proof. Perhaps your idea of saving fish in stock ponds can work, or perhaps it will not. Fish farming has proven handicapped, in that the fish are less healthy than those in the wild, less nutritious, and often infested with parasites because they are so crowded together. If we are to save humanity with fish, it is better to let them live in the open oceans, or thrive in streams and rivers, then trying to force feed them in stock ponds. The point of my above is that we all living things of the planet are interdependent, and interrelated, and if we kill off one group of species, others will die. Eventually, it becomes our turn. The scientific proof of our failures is when living species die off en masse. We cannot war on the natural world without damaging ourselves. That was the point. Ivan | ||
| anon |
Ivan, This issue is one that must be dealt with one way or another if we are to be able to sustain life on this planet. It may be that the issue will require enforcement of global fishing regulations. One hopes that reason and science will prevail in this case. It also brings to mind a saying from the bible, "Do not worry then, saying, "What will we eat?" or "What will we drink?" or "What will we wear for clothing?" For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." One hopes that we can learn from this even in our modern era when trying to resolve the issues associated with this problem. Ed | ||
| Naive |
You are right Ivan. I should rephrase: Our government is not the cause of the many problems we face as a society, but rather corrupt men within our government. And this speaks to the whole problem of the discussion above. Is it possible to affect large scale social change, with so many different value systems? You brought up the example of the Japanese. Similar ethical viewpoints throughout the populous. On the otherhand, we who expouse capitalism have gain as our common viewpoint. Once indeed religion served to imprint morals, ethics. In Asian countries, the philosophy was one of balance, moderation, and a sense that material gain is destructive toward the path of enlightenment. How prophetic now were the words of the ancients who developed those spiritual philosophies. We have had an industrial and technological revolution. I believe now it is time for the spiritual revolution. Or better yet we must ask: What will carry our species into the most final of frontiers (development of habitats in space)? Will it be our destruction of the planet due to greed and desire, or will we learn to coexist in harmony on a worldwide scale and develop technologies beneficial to the common goal of furthering human existence? I fear as long as we have corrupt men in the highest of our governmental positions, representing their own selfish interests, the answer is the very bleak and dismal one! Naive P.S. Ed. I am a man. I chose the name Naive because I feel humans have only scratched the surface of the knowledge we can know. I also feel it is arrogance to speak as if the answers one has are the final word on the truth. Thus Naive - to represent my current understanding of the world and its complexities! | ||
| anon |
My appologies Naive and I respect your humility. Ed | ||
| Naive |
No apologies needed. You are a good man Ed! | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Will it be our destruction of the planet due to greed and desire, or will we learn to coexist in harmony on a worldwide scale and develop technologies beneficial to the common goal of furthering human existence? Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 01:37 pm: Naive The only hope for survival in space habitats depends on our learning to treat all life on earth as important and nurture all life. If we fail to evolve as guardians of all life, we simply vanish; there would be no space habitat. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20706448-31477,00.html === ONE of the most respected journals covering the US military has called for Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to be sacked, adding to the chorus urging President George W. Bush to oust the Iraq war architect. ... "The time has come, Mr President, to face the hard bruising truth," said an editorial appearing in the November 13 issues of the weekly Military Times group of newspapers, which include the Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Corps Times. === November 13 is six days after the coming election. What is the point of writing an editorial to be printed and released on November 13 but of releasing it to the media just two days before the election? | ||
| Ivan |
My impressions, Mohideen, is that this election has had few gentlemenly niceties, to put it mildly. The article referenced, a foreign journal, has the leisure of 20/20 hindsight. The war in Iraq was a pretty much 'fait accomplit' when Baghdad fell. It was the rest of it, the nation building part, or transplanting Jeffersonian democracy onto Iraqis who were ill prepared to handle it, that was the tragedy. If the Iraqis cannot take the matter of secterian violence, the incredible numbers of murder and mutilations of their own people, into hand by the government, then the whole affair fails. Now it is up to the Iraqis, American election or not. I reserve judgment on Mr. Rumsfeld until I can see what the Iraqis accomplish, or fail to accomplish. Ball's now in their court. Ivan | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
For Mohideen Ibramsha, I have attached a link for your review. While I do not believe it you may find it and its implications of interest. http://www.rense.com/general44/nazi.htm For the last two thousand years the Christian elite has married among its self and in doing so has perpetuated its control of political power through control of the country's elected political powerbase. That is changing slowely as diversity enters our government. When we look at Bush and the rest of great political families we see this. However, limiting genetic input leads to a number of inherited diseases. But sometimes certain traits carry over. Whether of not there is a conspiracy of men running the world and influencing events I leave to other forums. As to November 13. Look to the link I posted above. Sometimes elements of the truth are buried in lies. But in most cases all you find is lies. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
While I do not believe it you may find it and its implications of interest. Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 05:32 am: Friendly Ghost I know that before the sun rises from the west, the devil would appear on the earth. I do not know about the groups mentioned in the link. I do not desire to put my energies to identifying the real source as I cannot reason with the devil. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
What are the implications of the following? http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=283& PID=449&IID=450 === The kidnapping of the soldiers enabled Israel to preempt before the Iranians had completed their buildup. The Iranians did not want a full-scale war yet. They wanted to put pressure on Israel, but Hizballah made a mistake in its assessment of Israel's response. The end result was a "premature" war that has put the Iranian terrorist threat on the global agenda of public diplomacy, alerting the West before Iran was completely ready. … We need to recognize that the media is a tool and that it can serve as a weapons system. … From now on it's "dirty wars," and that means that the role of public diplomacy is much greater. There are only two basic scenarios. Either you fight in densely populated areas on enemy territory, where the enemy is, or the enemy fights on yours. Israel is not a country that can absorb casualties. … The threat Israel faces is not just Hizballah, it's Iran, and we should alert the rest of the world to that, as we alerted the world to the Iranian nuclear program. Israel is on the front line of Iran's war against the West. … The globalization of terror under the auspices of Iran is a much more formidable and more clear and present danger than the Iranian nuclear threat. The minute the Iranians get nuclear weapons, they may not immediately send them against Israel on their missiles. But this will give them the kind of protection and deterrence to use the methods that they're using now in Lebanon. For instance, if there was an Iranian terrorist coup in Egypt, the world would have to weigh any reaction differently if Iran had nuclear weapons. === It is important to note that the above article that was published in August 2006 appears on November 5, 2006 as shown below: === Home » Israeli Security » The Critical Importance of Israeli ... Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, Israel - Nov 5, 2006 === Why bring a three month old article as news now? It looks like the real motive for blocking Iran’s nuclear ambitions is not security but the freedom to act against Iran without any constraints. Am I right? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/9149&t5 === Maybe there are reports out there of these screw-ups benefiting Democratic candidates at the expense of their Republican opponents, but I just don’t come across them. From TPM Café: “My wife just came home from voting here in Webster Groves MO. She used the electronic touch-screen voting system. . . She touched Claire McCaskill's picture and the machine recorded a vote for Jim Talent. She then called one of the people running the polling center who helped her correct the problem. My wife then had to call the person over another time after it recorded her vote a Republican again. (http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/nov/07/mo_sen_machi ne_records_dem_vote_for_gop) In her frustration she asked the person who was responsible for the design of this system. The polling person leaned in very close to my wife and whispered, 'We're f----d.' " === How is that? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20061107/cm_usatoday/diceymachinesshadytacticsa ndablastfromthepast === In early voting in Florida - yes, Florida - recently, electronic voting machines repeatedly tried to cast votes for candidates other than the one the voter chose. The Miami Herald quoted an elections official saying it wasn't uncommon for heavily used machines to "slip out of sync," requiring poll workers to shut them down or go through a 15-step process to recalibrate them. === So you see you were disenfranchised by technology! How about this from the same web page? === From overly restrictive voter ID requirements to aggressive efforts to challenge the eligibility of certain voters, partisan political operatives are devising new ways to try to keep people away from the polls, under the guise of policing vote fraud. Virtually all of the examples suggest Republican efforts to suppress voting by poor, less educated people who tend to vote for Democrats. === Finally the clincher from ex-President Jimmy Carter: === While the USA girds for problems today, Nicaragua, a tiny Central American nation with a troubled electoral history, conducted a presidential election Sunday that former president Jimmy Carter, one of the observers, called "a much more careful and meticulous process and much more uniform throughout the country than anything we've ever seen in the United States." === Looks like we have to simply wait with bated breath! | ||
| Ivan |
It appears from the article referenced above, The Critical Importance of Israeli Public Diplomacy..., that Iran had a Hizbollah agenda right from the start, back in 2000 when Israel pulled out of Lebanon. Or from the article: "From the minute Israel left Lebanon in May 2000, Iran began to implement its initial plan for a takeover of Lebanon by Hizballah. First, it got into the political system and then from within it is trying to take over. Israel struck over two thousand Hizballah targets, and not only in south Lebanon. Hizballah is fully deployed in south Lebanon, Beirut, the Bekaa Valley, and on the border with Syria. By looking at the targets that Israel struck, one can see the extent of the Hizballah takeover."The way Hiszbollah was able to play it to the world press and TV was expertly, and the media bought it. Remember some of those war scenes staged, and exposed as frauds? The nuclear ambitions of Iran is well covered up with media coverage, to once again make them look the victim, even if they are the aggressor, same as Hizbollah did to Israel. Interesting times we're in! How to fight a war without uniforms but all cameras blazing, while hiding behind civilian human shieds. This is truly something new, and creative, if not heartless. Can it win? Eventually, deceit is uncovered, and truth wins out. Ivan | ||
| Ivan |
RE 2006 mid-term elections, as referenced by Mohideen:
It seems there were some computer glitches early in the day, most likely human error by ill prepared volunteers at polling stations, but that got fixed within the first hour at most places. One place in California ran out of English speaking paper ballots, so some people left, since they were not well enough versed in Spanish or Vietnamese. Human error again? Mostly I turn a blind eye to unfounded conspiracy theories. If there were failures, usually they are fixed, or else somebody will be held accountable for them. By and large millions of people are able to vote without too many problems, except maybe standing in line. Absentee voting, or early voting, is becoming more popular, so can take some of the pressure off long lines, for those who know how they will vote early. However, you can't change your mind if last minute information is compelling. As far as electronic voting is concerned, I vote for a printed paper trail, so that results can be compared if contested. Keep the paper around for 30 days, and then discard. No need to look for conspiracies, but if any surface with evidence, then certainly must be examined, and if wrong doing, apply full due process of law to stop it. Tomorrow, or perhaps even late tonight, we will know how the American people had chosen. Voting is not a war, but a free expression of choice regarding how we are governed. Do I hear a screeching halt to 'gridlock' in Congress? Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Tomorrow, or perhaps even late tonight, we will know how the American people had chosen. Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 09:28 pm: Ivan 1942100%2C00.html,http://www.guardian.co.uk/midterms2006/story/0,,1942100,00.htm l === President George Bush's job is a lot tougher this morning, after the Democrats won control of the House of Representatives, breaking the conservative monopoly of power in Washington and clearing the way for congressional investigations into the conduct of the Iraq war. === Now the tense wait starts. Would there be an “Iran war?” Could the “Iraq war” be investigated while we are in the thick of another war? | ||
| Freedom |
Mohideen Ibramsha, You have seen now what constitutes the strength of the American system. The republicans and president ruled as dictators. Using the power control of the house granted to shape congressional districts to ensure a lock on power and access to wealth to buy power. However, you have now see that the American people have the power to and will exercise their will and take back their government without bombs using the tools our founding fathers gave us, freedom of speach, freedom of religon and freedom of the press. We used the Internet, cell phones, signals and cutout to pass messages and relay information from sources inside the government to bring down the corrupt Republican Administration. Unlike the terrorists we did it with no bombs, no guns, no killing. The religous people in the United States that backed me have set a limit, however, they said no to Gay Marriage. In Isreal the fanactics said the same thing but with riots, assualts and stabbings in God's holy city. We hold marriage is a sacriment of God. Civil unions are the perview of the secualar state and lay outside the house of Christ. We hold the Church door open for gay people but stop at granting them the sacriment of marriage. As to Iran. I suspect that we will hold the line on it. We have efforts in place working with the students to try and bring about change from within. We are working with the Wife of the late Shaw of Iran through cutouts passing messages back and forth. In the great game, we do many things. I did what I did to illustrate a point to the intelligence community and that the people of the United States will not tolerate a dictatorship. In doing so I penetrated the White House itself and had a copy of the president's schedule brought to me. Now is a time for healing. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Why this campaign of misinformation? http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=5648787&nav=2aKD === Hamas says America is responsible for an Israeli attack that killed women and children in the Gaza Strip because it offers Israel political, financial and logistical support. The statement goes on to say that Muslims must "teach the American enemy tough lessons." === Where did Associated Press get this bit of information about teaching a tough lesson to the American enemy? What did the Palestine Prime Minister say? http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C0AE9DA1-384B-48AB-BB5B-2DCEBDC9D6E6.htm === "I urge the Arab League to call on presidents and leaders to break the blockade imposed on the Palestinian people and not to continue complying with the American will and the American decision, which has given Israel the green light and which considers killing the children, women and elderly people in Beit Hanoun and Jenin as self-defence." === Where did the Associated Press pick up the information from the military wing? What is the source? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
As to Iran. I suspect that we will hold the line on it. We have efforts in place working with the students to try and bring about change from within. We are working with the Wife of the late Shaw of Iran through cutouts passing messages back and forth. Ed Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 05:16 am: Freedom I sincerely wish success for your efforts. I fully understand the power of students. In 1965 the Union Government in India imposed Hindi as a common language against the wishes of the South Indian population. I was in second year of the five year BS in Electrical Engineering. The students took a procession against the imposition. Some ruffians belonging to the then ruling party Congress attacked the student procession and caused injury to one student on his thigh. The student body continued the agitation. The colleges were closed and reopened in stages to control the students. The next election saw the Congress Party lose power in Tamilnadu state. That party is yet to regain power there. I understand the power of students. My worry is whether that power would have the time to exercise. What happens if bombing starts? All that I could say at this point in time is that I wish you well. | ||
| For Peace and Freedom |
Mohideen Imramsha, I thank you for your words. Already the policy makers are talking of shifting to a policy of engagement with Iran and Syria with regards to bringing about a reduction of violence in Iraq. For me, what the future holds I do not know. As to the current selectee for the post of Secretary of Defence, he has good credentials and is very pragmatic and is not an ideolog. Communication between civilized societes occures at many levels. When I travel I speak to the Muslim people I do so as a decendent of the founders of the United States, 24 year veteran of the intelligence services, and decendent from one of the great families of Christianity as does my wife. I and my wife have much in common with the Wife of the late Shaw of Iran. In addition we have established links to the people of Islam and to various Universities and their student populations. What I did with the support of my family and other members of the descendents of the founders of the United States, avrious moderate Churches and via the internet is bring about the creation of a network of decentralized agents. When I travel to the Middle East in the spring. I and my wife will bring our networks into contact with that of the Wife of the Late Shaw, The Iranians, the Iranian students and exchange views on subjects and have a dialog. I do this with the intent of demonstrating to the Iranians that it is possible to bring down a government with enourmous resources, pervasive security services with no loss of blood. Via the internet, and at university I have been teaching the students those tactics, techniques and procedures of revolution. As I sit here networks of contacts are already exchanging data. On the great game board, we have the wife of the late Shaw of Iran, her contacts, the exile population of Iran with its students, satellight links to homes in Iran, Internet connections, the former president of Iran who was a reformer, and his network. We also have the minority population of Iran, to include Zorastrians, whose religion I have also studied and my friends in Islamic nations and their networks of contacts. From those networks, information will pass and be exchanged. A dialog will be conducted and events set into motion. This has already started. The end result of this dialog and exchange between distributed networks is to bring about conditions for change in Iran. One hopes the Iranian students have paid attention to this dialog and what I have been able to do under surveillence by the most sophisticated ssurviellence systems in the world using cut outs, cell phones, the internet and dead drops to bring down a government. My Best Ed | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
Some experts on social affairs of the country are of the belief that a major movement in Iranian society at large is on the verge of taking place and because of the lack of social organization, they cannot be seen on a continuous basis. They however become apparent more during elections, special ceremonies or anniversaries. They believe that a large scale "Social Movement" is on the verge of happening and that parts of such major movement show themselves through universities. Within Iranian society lays a burgening social movement. The Empress Farah sees this and has written "Amidst renewed sufferings, our people continue the long and arduous struggle for freedom, and my earnest wish is that they will succeed in bringing forth a democratic Iran based upon her rich heritage, culture and tradition. To them, and to all my compatriots, I dedicate this site." http://www.farahpahlavi.org/ When I travel to the Middle East come the spring, I and my wife will bring with us the network of contacts and founding families that banded together to bring down the Republican Government of the United States, in full view of the world. To the people of Iran, learn from this. To stand in the open and defy the rulers of Iran at this time is foolish. But you have strength, and the time will come when you will be called upon to demonstrate that strength but the time is not yet. Communication, construction of networks and gathering of information is currently the task at hand. In your struggle for freedom you have many friends. In the great game, I have made the opening move and demonstrated what is possible. The rest is up to you. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
A Brillient Mind With nothing but university computers linked to gravity sensors, planetary alignments, geological websites and historical databases he predicted earthquakes. With primative tools he explored the Quadratrix of Hippias and charted new ground in geometry. He recovered the Soviet Central Group of Forces and Czechoslovakian War Plans and help build the nuclear defense plan for NATO. He predicted storm damage from Katrina and casualty estimates with chilling accuracy. All of this despite brain, spinal cord, C-Spine and peripheral nerve damage. Poisoning, and multiple attempts to kill him. He was trained in all weapons of war including nuclear weapons and he scored expert with rifle, pistol and machine gun. He ran an agent network throughout Czechoslovakia during the cold war and then when thrown broken onto the street by the President, Cheney and Rumsfeld, he built a network using home, library and university computers, family, and friends, along with code speak and signal systems that penetrated the White House, obtained Scooter Libbies indightment, and penetrated CIA Langly's black prison system. After doing so he helped with the assistance of other members of the founding families to bring down the Republican Government. Now he turns his attention to Iran. Now we know what helped win the Cold War and what was locked up in the black world of spies and covert programs. If I was the federal government I think I would find a way to make peace with him. I would rather have him working for the federal government than coordinating the overthrough of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
Thank you Ghost. I think I spotted you today. I would like to work again as an analyst and would entertain offers from the federal government. Until such offers are made, I will continue doing what I am doing and will coordiante my operations with that of the Empress of Iran. As to the federal government, I still remember the EMG needles and electricity you ran through my tounge, facial nerves and each and every other nerve in my body. I still recall each and every twist of the needle as my nervous system was probed with electricity. I also recall the seven attempts to penetrate my spine to withdraw spinal fluid and the rupture of the cord and headache I had when the fluid drained from around my brain. I also remember the failing of my body from poison in Mexico, the choking and difficulty breathing I had and then the light I passed through, barely returning and waking from it when I rolled out of the bed onto the floor. I said long ago I would get the men and women that put me out on the street. To do it I had to bring down the government. Be thankful I found Christ and God and have long ago layed down my weapons and be thankful that I am a decendent of the founding families of this nation. As to what I can do. Read the Friendly Ghosts posts. Come the spring I will be in the Persian Gulf helping build a network inside Iran. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
I would like to work again as an analyst and would entertain offers from the federal government. Until such offers are made, I will continue doing what I am doing and will coordiante my operations with that of the Empress of Iran. Ed Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 10:02 pm: Peace and Freedom Dear Ed, You know what is best for you. You should help the nation. I hope you do not sign-off all your time for the government. If possible maintain flexibility so that your hands are not tied; retain the freedom to intervene peacefully to bring about change. Is there a possibility of your becoming a “consultant – analyst” so that you get a specific commitment as a consultant without the hours of activity getting specified by someone else. Such freedom to help the Federal Government would allow you to help mankind enslaved in other regions outside the US. I hope God Almighty gives you enough wealth so that you do not need to work to get bread on the table. Best wishes again. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Is the war on Iran rescheduled? http://www.countercurrents.org/iran-akleh091106.htm === The present American administration is an extremist theocratic apocalyptic neoconservative Christian-Zionist war mongering law-breaking power hungry administration with a bragging “war president” adopting the doctrines of “pre-emptive” strikes and perpetual war against “global terror”. This war will take place far away from the American home-land, and will generate large profits for the American military corporations. The war against Iran will engulf the whole Middle East and may overflow to its neighboring countries. Controlling Iran is a very important strategic move to assure American global hegemony. This war is scheduled to start between February and April of 2007, and it seems that there is nothing to stop it. === Does the writer have any links to the powers that are? Or is he speculating? Going by the start of the Iraq war in 2003, a period between February and April possibly facilitates a ground invasion. So the above dates could as well be educated guesses by the author. | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
Mohideen Ibramsha, Thank you for the kind words. As to income, I have recovered with the aid of Clinton contacts and am now back in the upper level of American Society with regards to income and assets. I worked 60 hours a week, and did all of the the things I did even while damaged for a number of purposes. The first is to provide hope to the brain damaged to show recovery is possible. The second is to embarass the Bush adminstration on the street and focus attention on myself from the scientific community with regards to nuero-regeneration. From that I used my demonstrated capabilities to build a network of contacts on the street, in the scientific community, and in the Churches. I coupled that to my families contacts with the founding families and in government to bring help bring about the downfall of the Republican Government. I also did so under survellience on Camera on the streets to prove it could be done. It is a distributed network like Al Qeada's in which I serve as a tactical and strategic planner, with policy and other functions being distributed. Contact between members is via the media and cutouts. We also use dead drops and the Churches to link us with coded messages distributed in Sermons. My wife's IQ is 140, mine despite damage is 126. My daughters IQ is 145. My wife and daughter speak four languages each. The average IQ for my family is 135. We have turned all of that capability to building and running a network that brought down the Republican Government using cell phones, bibles, code speak and Churches. When I go to the Middle East I go as senior representative of the undergound network that helped bring down the Government of the Rupublicans. My wife through female contacts has opened a dialog with the Empress of Iran. During the American Civil war my Mother's family helped run the underground railway that brought the slaves from the south to freedom in the north. To run that network we used messages coded in quilts in the form of embroidered patterns, signs and symbols on Churches and Houses, Code Speak and Bibles. That is the capability we brought to bear on the Government of the Republicans. I merged that to my distant relatives capabilites in Europe and the UK that helped bring about the end of Rule in South Africa. We used similiar techniques. That network is very real. Today we added the Internet to the mix of capabilites. Come the spring I will teach the Iranian's and Empress the same techniques. My Best Ed | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
On last thing passed to me by my group in work after the fall of Rumsfeld and the Republicans were the words John Chapture 1. King James Version. All it took was two words John 1. Such is the nature of the Network I am in. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/08/AR2006110801810. html === Russia has told European envoys it is committed to ensuring Iran does not make nuclear bombs, even though Moscow gutted a draft U.N. resolution on sanctions against Tehran, diplomats said on Wednesday. …China's U.N. envoy Wang Guangya, whose country supports Russia on Iran, was pessimistic about the progress in the negotiations. Other ambassadors were more upbeat. "Clearly I think in a number of difficult areas the difference cannot be bridged so I believe there should be more reflections in capitals," he told reporters after Tuesday's meeting. === History seems to repeat in UN. If US would wait for an UN Security Council resolution authorizing all means, it is possible that there could be a delay of a few months. Could this delay be tolerated by the “End-Timers?” | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
In history we have four examples of men that peacefully brought down governments in full view of the public with little of no technological support aided by a legion of followers. 1. Ghandi did it against all odds. Using passive resistence and logic he brought down the British Raj. 2. His Holiness the Pope helped do it by using religon, and an understanding of politics, when he led the Church in Poland and then the Church of Rome in its conflict with the Soviet Union. 3. Nelson Mandela did it from a cell a South African Cell. 4. And now we have another that helped do it from behind the scenes, using intelligence trade craft and knowledge of Government Secrets to bring down the Republican Administration. Each of these men were special, highly intelligent and gifted individuals. Behind each was a religous base that would die or sacrifice their careers for them. This latest network under the leadership of one intelligent gifted individual is now aligning itself with that of the Empress of Iran and others, with the intent of coordiating actions to bring about change in Iran. In this task it faces the networks established by a nation state raised by another great mind and religous leader, the Ayatollah Khomeini. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayatollah_Ruhollah_Khomeini In the ensuing conflict of ideas and intelligence the World Wide Web is likely to become a battle ground between there two sides which seek to influence the minds of the Iranians. In this great game the stakes are high. On one side is a Christian that believes in freedom and religious co-existance as an article of faith and a repressive religously intolerant nation state. As an opening salvo in this war the Christian leader confirmed before the combined intelligence communities of the United States and Isreal the use of advanced weapons supplied by Iran in Lebenon to strike an Isreali Warship, and the state of Iran's nuclear design program using only the Internet and data provided to him by contacts. Opposing this great mind are the products of the Ayatollah's teaching. Interesting to see what comes out of this battle. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
http://www.derafsh.org/DerafshK/Guide.htm Thank you Ghost in the struggle to bring freedom to Iran, there are groups already in the fight. To them our network is lending support in terms of technical advise, encouragement, education and analytic work. A link to one of those groups is posted above. From college campuses via the Internet we are interacting with groups like this. For the Iranian's the battle has just started. Ed | ||
| Ivan |
Bear in mind, Friendly, that these victories against all odds were against civilized nations. Can we really put the conservative Islamic forces of Iran in that category? Jihad, or Sharia, stops any criticism, any rebellion of free thought, or any possibility of change. Once Islamic fundamentalists take over, the equation is now changed. No change is possible. The kids in Iran who desire change are up against a powerful repressive Islamic fundamentalist Council of Guardians who will allow for no discussion on the matter, and repress any opposition severely, just like they did in the good old days of Soviet Communism. Rebel, and you are dealt with severly, imprisoned, beatened and tortured, or killed. There is no comparrison with today's ayatollah dominated Iran and civilized countries. The closest parallel is to that of the Soviet's repressive regime. Until radical Islam fails from within, the way the Soviets failed from within, there really is not hope for the reformers who dream of an 'orange revolution' in Iran. The odds are against them, since the current regime will use all the coercive powers of its fundamentalist religion to stop them from having any freedoms. God help them. Ivan | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
For Ivan, Once before in the history of Christianity a man confronted the forces of dogmatic obedience that burned, tortured and imprisioned those that challanged its power and worldview. That man was Martin Luther. Using the forces of politics, popular support and desire for change as a shield he nailed to a Church door a document that forever changed Christianity. The Church was powerless to move against him for he was able to wield these forces into both a sword and shield that protected him. To do so he had to master these forces and use the support of the people and the demonstrated and real threat this posed to the entrenched rulers to accomplish his task. Can it be done again? Yes but it would take a unique individual that to do it. Negotiatiions, give and take, acceptance of his message, birth right, and the like would be required. Once in the city of Basra in Iraq a woman walked the street and spoke of god and satan during the ancient days of Islam. She blanced the forces of culture, religion, power and economics and is said to have held the city in the Palm of her hand. To this day she is revered as a Saint of Islam. Yes it can be done, but the mind to do must be special. Can it be done? Yes the man that rises in Iraq to Challange the Ayatollah's legacy, must be strong and will not turn the other cheek for that is not the way of the Muslim, but must demonstrate he has the power to bring the Government to its knees, and yet have a soul that respects, life liberty and freedom. Such a man would go down in Islamic history as a Warrior Saint on Par with Saladeen the Great. Martin Luther was such a man and he ignited a fire that swept across Christendom and forever changed it. To find and arm such a man is what we seek to do in Iran. A man such as that could shake the entire world of Islam. Can we help such a man? yes backed by the Internet, and the most advanced technology in the world we could provide aid and advise like we did to Yeltsin during the Coup in Russia. But for it to work we must keep our distance and aid from afar. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Adawiyya al-Quaysiyya of Basra or simply Rabia Al-Basri (717-801 C.E.) was a female Sufi saint. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabia_al-Adawiya She walked the streets of Basra and held the city in her hand. For this she was made a saint. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Muqtada al-Sadr http://www.cfr.org/publication/7637/ In recent days a man rose to challange the might of the United States Army in Iraq. He used popular support, a credible use of force, and the forces of religion to fight the United States Army to a stand still and wrest political power from the Shia Leadership. Such a mind brought the mightest army on the face of the earth to a halt in Iraq. One other great mind used these same forces to bring the Republican Government down, with no shots being fired. He used leakes, dumps of information in mail boxes and Churches and predictive intelligence, geometry and popular support. Can such things be done? Yes they have been done and contiue to be done. Ed, Osama and Sadr have shown such things can be done. For the students of revolution in Iran. You to can raise a man to do such things. Learn from, Ed, Martin Luther, Osama and Sadr...the list is long, the price is high, but freedom is worth the price. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther Friendly Ghost | ||
| Ivan |
POWERFUL CALL TO REASON IN IRAN FLAG OF FREEDOM ORGANIZATION OF IRAN GUIDE TO POLITICAL ACTION these points are made (thanks to Ed's link above): 1- Invidiously compare present conditions in Iran with the period before the revolution and with the progress made in neigbouring countries and others similar to Iran. These are powerful points of reason against tyranny. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said "I swear upon the altar of God to be the eternal enemy of all tyranny over the mind of man." Man, or woman, who fights for Liberty, God speed. Ivan | ||
| Anon Anon |
Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 07:58 pm: Hardly a rebellion ANON ANON..... It is the perogative of power to crush those that oppose its use. However, in our system we are protected and charged by law and custom to reveal illegal abuses of power..... To that end we descendents of the founding fathers have pledged an oath binding on us to expose the corruption that lays in this administration; its criminal lack of action in matters of international policy and at home; as well as those within it that threaten to violate the separation of powers. WE HAVE NO ISSUE with congress approving tribunals or warrentless wiretaps so long as they act as a deliberative body and their action is found legal by the courts.... That is the system we have pledged to fight for....to do so we will use every tool of the media and court system to do so.....we reject violence and use of force...we will let the truth speak for us and let the people decide...the free expression of the will of people will be honored by us even if counters what we believe....to that and the constitution of the United States we pledge our lives, honor and fortunes. Amen My God Bless the United States of America and its soldiers..... The Alliance of Patriots This Alliance of Rich and Poor descendents of the patriots of Colonial days, children of the founding fathers, of Franklin, Jefferson, Hancock and the rest banded together to bring down a one party state that disregarded the will of the people. In doing so they fought for our rights, endured loss of power and privilage, suffered ridcule in the streets and the press, yet rallied around one descendent of the Mayflower, armed with Bible in hand and computer keyboard. He stood his ground and preached, predicted and used the resources of universities to push the limits of human knowledge of gravity. May God Bless the founding fathers and their children, when called they come and in coming they shame us for what they did and we did not On darkened wings into a cloud of Chinese fallout did one fly...in doing so she gave up her dream to fly on the space shuttle her dream destroyed by cancer. Such is what founded this nation and such will live in history forever. Anon Anon | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
"Aquaint the people with the democratic liberation movements throughout the world so that they will become more inspired and resolute in their fight for democracy." In bringing down the American Republican Government the Alliance of Patriots has given new meaning to the words above. The following is a partial list of some of the Patriots that endured much in the fight against a one party religious state imposed by the Republicans: Air Force Religious Scandal Capt. Melinda Morton former nuclear launch officer Abu Ghraib Scandal Army Spc. Samuel Provance, intelligence specialist Surveillence Scandle US District Judge James Robertson resigned late Monday from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) Resignations over Bush's Iraq policy http://www.rediff.com/us/2003/mar/20iraq15.htm The list goes on. All were bound by service to an ideal the Republican Government and the President did not accept or share. They and thousands of others, heard the words of one decendent of the Mayflower. Together, linked via the internet, Churches and universities they brought down a government, director of CIA and Secretary of Defense. May God Bless then. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php Welcome to Faith Freedom International Faith Freedom stands for freedom of faith. We are against Hate, not Faith. We revere human rights not human beliefs. We endeavor to be factually correct, not politically correct. http://regimechangeiniran.com/ Regime Change Iran http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8924 Regime Change Iran London, Oct. 13 - A five-day visit to Iran earlier this month by a senior Clinton administration official has fuelled rumours among Iranian political pundits that some Democratic Party leaders may be attempting to establish unofficial channels of communication with Tehran in a bid to outmanoeuvre the Bush administration in its handling of the thorny issue of Iran. Now we begin to see that Clinton and his supporters have a plan that they have been sticking too as Ed said. Yes Ed is part of a network, just what the capabilites of that network are have yet to be determined. Take a genius, nuclear weapons expert and master war game theorist. Tie him to a moderate widespread Tolerant Christian Network of Churches and Groups and we begin to start to unravel the tangled web that brought down the Republicans and is engaged in operations to reach out to the people of Iran that want change. From outside the system Ed played it against itself using predictive intelligence, religion, knowledge of the workings of the Intelligence Services, misdirection, threats of disclosure, internet postings, dead drops, he proved it could be brought down. He then went on to aid the Clinton Plan supporters in bringing down a government. Then he unvails the Clinton plan, and the fact it is still in play, even now with contacts being established in Iran. A masterful bit of work. Friendly Ghost | ||
| peace and Freedom |
Yes Ghost, I walked into the plan for the invasion of Iraq. The same team that brought you the invsion of Iraq was going to bring you the Invasion of Syria, in pursuit of WMD. They had plans, they the NEOCONs under Bush, to invade Syria and push to Damscus during the Invasion of Iraq. Order of Battle files were being built on Syrian force in preparation for attacks, air ground and missile strikes. They saw it as a replay of the Dommino theory of regime change. With the military forces pushing in toppling one government at a time IAW with a grand plan and vision granted to Bush, that he was given a divine mission to bring democracy to the middle east and god help those that opposed him. Until that is he got bogged down in Iraq. The Neocon's computer models showed they had the technical and military capability to bring down the governments and militaries of Syria, Iraq and then Iran. But then religion raised its head and sectarian strife they never counted on. They saw religon, the NEOCONs, as a tool they could use, then it bit them back and people rebelled. Yes in England I had a watcher a man with photographic memory and descendent of the Celtic Bards memorizing all the faces and licience plates of the men and women that help bring you the abuse of prisoners, the Iraq War and twisted intelligence to fit the facts. Then came a mistaken delivery of propane, by a man with a Celtic cross, and a bible. We sent a message back to the NEOCONs, two men can play with religon one from a position of power and one from the streets. George Bush and his team tried to play the politics of religon and ran into something they never expected. Force met force, man met man and the founding families stepped in to defuse the crisis. Politics by its nature is a brutal buisiness. Couple it to religion and great passion is raised. Now come the pragmatists under James Baker to salvage the situation. With regards to me during WW II Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto famously fretted, "I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve" In the rebellion against George Bush I pushed my self to my limits, to prove a point. With links to gravity meters, space probes, magnetic readings, solar data, historical data bases of earthquakes fed to me via several University Computers online in the Student Computer lab I predicted earthquakes using a partially formed understanding of Gravity and its impact on the Earth at the macro level. It was a battle of will between me and George Bush fought in universities the street, on the Web and via contacts. In the rubble of the aftermath of the battle, the churches that backed me for a security clearance, the men and women that recommended me for hire and promotion, and teams of supports are still here and the republican government is in ruins. Within the Intelligence and Security apparatus are a core of men and women that used security clearences to purge the Bush Administration of people who did not walk his walk or talk his talk. Escalation is a bad thing and its effects have far reaching implications. Ed | ||
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As I sit here about to go out. I have reviewed the links to Iranian Freedom organizations posted about. In my mind I am correlating the organizations, their contacts, postings, websites and coupling them to what I know of Univeristies, Political Forces in Europe and the United States. I then take that and link that projection to the information conduits the sites reference back to Iran in terms of messages that are bing passed back and forth, how much information in what form and shape can be sent through those piplines. I am then linking that information to what I know of Iranian culture, their mindset demographics, economy, environmental conditions and other factors to build a picture. In the rebellion against George Bush, I visited a major Television Netowrk and was taken on a tour of the facility. In it I saw and met a woman that scheduled commercials. Through cutouts we had a dialog. In turn she showe me via broadcasts she could weave a subtle message in how she presented the comercials in terms of sequence, content and timing to send a message to millions of viewers around the globe helping present a view. That is the nature of the type of asset I used in the war against George Bush to bring down the Republican Government and is the type of asset we need to bring to bear on Iran. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
That is the nature of the type of asset I used in the war against George Bush to bring down the Republican Government and is the type of asset we need to bring to bear on Iran. Ed Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 08:47 am: Peace and Freedom I believe that war against GB took about 2 years of preparation after the 2004 election. The war – peaceful war – in Iran also requires time. Do we have time on our side? http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/11/10/ap3162696.html === The deputy defense minister suggested in comments published Friday that Israel might be forced to launch a military strike against Iran's nuclear program - the clearest statement yet of such a possibility from a high-ranking official. "I am not advocating an Israeli pre-emptive military action against Iran and I am aware of its possible repercussions," Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh, a former general, told The Jerusalem Post. "I consider it a last resort. But even the last resort is sometimes the only resort." === Could we ignore the Deputy Defense Minister of Israel? | ||
| Ivan |
Is the church 'at war' with Turkey? http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=lead&lang=en&length=long&idelem ent=4620&backpage= TURKEY: ATTACKERS FIREBOMB PROTESTANT CHURCH | ||
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Ivan, This issue in Turkey is religous tolerance and freedom. By an large Turkey is a progressive, fairly secular Islamic State and has laws on the books to protect religous minorites. The fair enforcement of these laws is the issue not whether or not the Church is at War with Turkey. In a change of subject I am at present focusing my effort on analyzing Iran and the data regarding it to develop a true picture of it. From that I will begin to estimate pressure points that can be exploited within the Society and Country to undermine the Regime from within. Based on my survey of Iranian Exile Oposition Groups and the number of Universities with students with ties to Iran. We have number of conduits to feed information and data back and forth regarding the state of the opposition in Iran at the grass roots level. This coupled to the Internet and advise from the world's universities and their databases provide the exile group with sufficient information to start the planning and assessment process to bring about change from within. In doing so they will come up against the organs of state security in Iran. To beat them they have to be better than they are at the game of revolution. What I have tried to do is teach them how to play this game. The rest is up to them. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
"May God Bless the founding fathers and their children, when called they come and in coming they shame us for what they did and we did not." In their wrath they are terrible to behold. Backed into a corner with nothing but access to the Internet and University computers he looked upon the world, solar system and forces of creation. What did he see in the great pattern? That is a mystery that will echo down the ages. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20061110-085155-22 02r === A senior U.S. official this week told Israeli reporters he did not believe Israel would attack Iran that has some 200 nuclear sites. It is difficult to believe that all of them can be destroyed in one attack and the worse thing would be if Israel tries and fails, he said according to Ha'aretz. Sneh seemed to contradict that prediction. He said he did not believe international sanctions would block Iran and added: "I am not advocating an Israeli pre-emptive military action against Iran, and I am aware of all of its possible repercussions... I consider it a last resort. But even the last resort is sometimes the only resort." === 200 sites??? | ||
| Ivan |
Mohideen, if this comes to pass, it will be a dark day for the world. "A senior Israeli official said this week he was sure Iran's long-term aim is to destroy Israel and possibly control Mecca in Saudi Arabia.-- from your link in post above. Ivan | ||
| terror fate |
Terror-fate? Big pooof bie-bie, The palestine arabs are stoopid to hate joos. If they understood anything, they would see joos are their human shields, without those shields, arabs would been nuked long ago. Terror is their own, monstroosly biggest enemy to themselves. If Iran takes nuke bomb, this time poor joos may not be deterrent enuf. Palestine goes bie-bie, all stoopid Arabia does big pooof, if not peace now. Pooof! big big pooof big mistake, stoopids. Love your joos or go bie-b ie. | ||
| Le Chef |
FATE, NO 'JOOS', NO MORE ARABS?  Okay class, pay attention. Be good children and learn from your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfathers, great great they were until one day... Poooof! Find Peace children, or the ugly crooked finger of fate will become your karma, and pooof! Le salaamly wise Chef | ||
| peac and Freedom |
I have begun to pull together a view of the opposition social movement in Iran. From data I am colating the following is starting to become clear. This movement has hopes and dreams, a vision of society it wishes to bring about so those hopes and dreams can be achieved. Governments rule by consent of the people. This is achieved by either a social contract or by fear of the consequences of failure to comply in a dictitorial regime. When the consequences of compliance become greater than the consequences of non-compliance in a repressive regime then change happens. Recently the people of Iran flocked to a bakery upon hearing a rumor that the shops were closing because the government sent the flour to Lebenon to further the aims of the revolution. The people were angry but had no choice but to comply. They saw it as another example of the government of Iran pursuing an ideological struggle at their expense. The recent president of Iran has purged the government and key organs of state govenment of people who did not support his ideological views. Competant, technological people were thrown out of work. This breeds anger to the government among them, but must not be displayed because of the nature of the system they are in. From these data points we begin to get view of the frustration that is mounting in the underground social movement in Iran and Iranian society as a whole. Through the right application of intelligence, support, commuication and other means it is possible to build upon these frustrations to begin bring about the conditions neccessary to induce change in the Iranian system. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061111/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq === The mortar attack was at least the second reported in recent weeks against the U.S. office in Hillah, which oversees government and diplomatic interests in the central Euphrates region, about 60 miles south of Baghdad. Nine of the 10 mortar bombs fired landed inside the complex, police Capt. Muthanna Khalid Ali said. === How could Capt. Muthanna Khalid Ali reveal the above sensitive information? Does it indicate realignment inside Iraq? Are the Sunni Muslims and the Shiites joining hands against the US and other multinational forces? Is this a price we have to pay because of the anticipated hostility with Iran? The following news only aggravates the agony. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/10/washington/11militarycnd.html?hp&ex=1163221200 &en=c7d7e9182f360bcd&ei=5094&partner=homepage === But when he was asked about the general’s remarks, the chief White House spokesman, Tony Snow, said the administration is still committed to victory in Iraq, and that its definition of victory has not changed. Mr. Snow defined victory as “an Iraq that can sustain, defend and govern itself,” words virtually identical to those used recently by President Bush and his surrogates. === | ||
| Ivan |
Separation of Church and Sate, by God's Rule. That is profound. It is true for every social order from the tribal chief, to nations, to social committees. We rule only by consent, either positive consent such as through the agreed upon democratic process, or negative consent through fear and oppressive tyranny we dare not challenge. The positive consent works far better than the negative, because change is more easily achieved and the rulers must respond to the wishes and fears of the people. Whereas negative consent is rigid so can be deposed only through force, revolution, violence, and the results are always damaging. Why the rest of the world that is still ruled by negative consent cannot see this is really a puzzle, especially in today's world of instant communications. Add to this mix the religious component, to a world really ruled by men and not God, the tyranny becomes more rigid still. To depose such tyranny by men who think themselves ruling for God means they must be proven wrong, that they are not gods but men. Hence, in positive consent societies, there is separation of church and state. God gave men, and women, the mental ability to rule themselves. Anyone who then claims to speak for God in this ability to rule ourselves is negating the God given right we have to rule ourselves, as free human beings, which becomes a contradiction. Democratic constitutional rule is the natural law of God, while theocratic rule in the name of God is an abrogation of God's rule. I hope the free people of Iran will see this difference, and act upon God's rule as their own, by the consent of the people. Ivan Ps: The sectarian quasi-religious struggle within Iraq in the end must comply with this rule of God through the separation of church and state, which at this time their constitution does not make clear. I foresee more violence in Iraq when the western alliance pulls out, not if but a matter off when. Without that clear separation of church and state (something the American administration's plan for Iraq never made clear), the 'victory' in Iraq will be hollow, more blood will flow. The rule of God cannot be abrogated by religious zealot's Sharia tyranny. Men and women must be free to be ruled by God's will. God help them. | ||
| Ivan |
Same for Turkey. Chants as Turks bury ex-PM Ecevit, BBC News. "Thousands of Turks have demonstrated in support of secularism during the funeral of the veteran statesman Bulent Ecevit in the capital Ankara. Some people in Turkey understand the importance of this, but some will not. If Turkey ever hopes to join the modern world, whether or not Europe, it must understand this, that it separates church and state. | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
Thanks for the kind words Ivan, When asked how I can run an intelligence network linked via the Internet, and am able to coordinate the decentralized operation of scores of agents in full view of the most advanced surveillence systems on the face of the earth, I answer with the following. I have the cabability to visualize a game space, integrate data and then run projected courses of action incorporating the effects of weather and other forces into the assessments. I then, through training in covert communication techniques pass data back and forth via agents. It is this capability that I brought to bear on the Republican Government in concert with a host of others. When I came back home I returned to one of the orignal centers of the American Revolution. From it I and other members of the founding families using networks of contacts coordinated the down fall of the Republicans in full view of the world. When the Bush supporters pushed back, I went to University spun up several computers and projected earthquakes, the effects of storms and damage estimates. I then published them on the Internet, in school papers for professors to review and droped them in mail boxes and to Church groups to let the Bush supporters and Federal Government know that I was annoyed with them. I and my network have now turned our attention to Iran. Being able to visualize the game space I am also able to coordinate the movement of agents around the globe by being able to internally assess events and project them against terrain, and other factors such as local socio-cultural conditions in my mind. What we will be able to do in the short term I do not know. We have never attempted the reform of an Islamic Society before and it poses certain challanges for us. Especially having to work remotely through the internet and via cutouts and agents. Right now I am in the process of reviewing the Iranian data set and performing assessments and estimates. Now you know what helped win the Cold War and just what got dumped on the street by George Bush and what it was capable of doing. And yes on my vacation I was asked by the Rev. Fallwell to coordinate the over through of Chavez. I declined, I have to much on my plate at the momment. My Best Ed | ||
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For Mohideen Ibramsha I have mentioned some of the capabilites I and my supporters brought to bear on the Bush Administration. At University in addition to my studies, I was teaching the students a class in religion, morals, ethics and peaceful revolution on the side. I showed them my capabilites and asked them to match me. They accepted the challange. During our sessions agents of the federal government came on campus. We decided to perform a demonstration of capability. I told him in the open follow me and think about what would happen if someone got their hands on a stealth bomber armed with a nuclear device. I then signaled a student with a cell phone who sent a text to another that went to another. As we walked on into the building on a TV monitor flashed a story about the code Broken Arrow. That is the code for the loss of a nuclear weapon. It was a demonstration of the capability to manipulate the media. In another demostration of capability a local women, expert in birds, trained a Hawk to recognize the jacket that I wore. It was green in color. As I walked campus the hawk would fly over head keeping me in sight. The hawk was also trained to recognize a gun and would screach if it saw one. To over through the Government of Iran. The sudents must approach the capability demonstrated by my students at University. | ||
| Ivan |
Terror-fate, Le Chef, interesting idea that 'God' put the Israelis at Jerusalem to save the Arabs from annihilation, never occurred to me. If so, God has an ironic turn of 'Mind' without small measure of humor. So both sides, though locked in hate, need each other! How cosmically perverse. This is a test, obviously, for both. If they gain peace, they pass. If they fail, only 'God' knows how tragic it will be. Peace is the better solution here, if the Arabs can see it as the 'hand of God', the same 'God' created by the ancient Israelites. Wow. Ed, do you think Iran understands this? Perhaps some do, but I fear their officials who call for 'destruction of Israel' are not considering 'God's test' for them. If they succeed in destroying it, they fail. And then what? Wow... Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
The sudents must approach the capability demonstrated by my students at University. Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 04:58 pm: Peace and Freedom http://www.isna.ir/Main/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-819149&Lang=E === "This intelligent robot has the ability to cook various types of food like curries, soups and rice without the presence of human beings," informed the Iranian student, Mohammad Ghahremani. "This robot can cook food for 1-12 persons in two methods, manual or automatic and the cooking starting time and the time for adding various food particles are adjustable. It also has a conserver out of which it serves the food," he added. === There are capable students in Iran too. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/11/africa/ME_GEN_Israel_Iran.php === "In other words: Iran must start to fear," Olmert said. "The guideline has to be that this government and the people of Iran must understand that if they do not accept the request of the international community, they're going to pay dearly." Israel has ratcheted up its rhetoric regarding Iran in recent weeks. Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh indicated in weekend interviews that as a "last resort" Israel could take military action to stop Iran from achieving the technological know-how needed to build nuclear weapons. But Olmert declined to say in the interview whether Israel would take military action if international efforts failed. "I prefer not to discuss the Israeli option. Israel has many options," Olmert said. === My question is: Do we have time to teach the Iranian students? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378379290&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull === … shortly before the Lebanon war, Maj.-Gen. Eliezer Shkedy was appointed head of the IDF's Iranian Front - and as such will command any future strikes against Syria or Iran. Some analysts say that it would have been better for Israel to attack Syria during the recent war with Hizbullah. Syria has consistently supplied Hizbullah with weapons, and according to recent UN reports, has continued to smuggle arms to the organization despite an international embargo. "If they had acted against Syria during this last kerfuffle, the war might have ended more quickly and better," American analyst Richard Perle said. "Syrian military installations are sitting ducks and the Syrian air force could have been destroyed on the ground in a couple of days," Perle continued. === Between the Lebanon war and now could the sitting ducks have become flying ducks? The threat due to overconfidence remains. | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
Mohideen Ibramsha With regards to having the time to teach the students in Iran the tactics, techniques and procedures for peaceful revolution. At present Iran's economy is beset by a number of structural problems. This has led to an unemployment rate of 30 percent. For one third of the Iranian population the revolution has failed to provide for them. For these young men and women they see the rampant corruption within the country, the wealth and power of the religious elite and money being funneled to support the export of the revolution. Are the Iranians ready and able to openly oppose this and bring about change? Not yet. In 1999 the students tried, but in doing so they lacked the support of the 30 percent of the Iranian population that is unemployed and for whom the revolution is a failure. Following the 1999 national student protests the student movement went underground. Into this underground movement needs to come a man or women able to bridge the gap between the two groups and coordinate the actions of both groups from behind the scenes. One with a vision of the future he or she would build that all agree to. To do this takes time, dedication and support. As things are going I don't know if we have the time. Come the spring I will be in the UAE for a few days. To show the children of Islam what is possible and what one man can do, backed by the support of the people, churches and the skills of the best and brightest of university students. Having the right family connections also helps. Besides being directly descended from the founders of the United States, my wife's family and mine have fought against and with St Joan of Arc, William the Conqureor, and a host of others. Our families battled for control of the Holy city of Jeurselum and faced the forces of Saladeen the great. To the cause of Freedom we are pledged. To those forces that battle for peace and god we have pledge our health, wealth, influence, skills and abilities. May you and your friends pass word to others who in turn pass word to Iranians that long for the day of freedom to come. As I sit here the rain falls on my house and on the ancient monuments to the Great American revolution that lay on the ancient town green and parade field where our forces of Freedom marshaled before battle. From this place we raised a rebellion of peace that brought down a government. Around this green lays a Jewish Temple, Christian Catholic Church, Anglican Church and Protestant meeting hall. Along with a Grange House and market place. Near this green also lays the house in which George Wahington planned the battle of Yorktown that ended the revolutionary war. Such symbols are important in the fight for freedom because they remind the people of what was once done and what we stand for. God Bless Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=150924 === WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush geared up Sunday to seek a new course in Iraq, which may include cooperation with Syria and Iran, as leading US lawmakers called for a withdrawal of US troops to begin within four to six months. === How could we cooperate with Iran when Israel is preparing for the ‘last resort?’ | ||
| Ivan |
Mohideen, aren't you subconsciously confusing things here? How would a change in US policy towards Iran, or withdrawal from Iraq, equate with Israel's preparadness for possible attacks from Iran, or Syria, both of which swore to wipe out Israel? Are being Freudian here? Anyway, that aside, put yourself in Isarel's shoes. What would you do against neighbors who swore to anihilate you? | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
Ivan, Israel has the right to defend itself. This issue of engaging Iran and Syria is from a pragmatic approach and is likely necessary to bring about a lessoning of hostility. Iran and Syria are brutal regimes, but sometimes you have to negotiate with adversaries to bring about a solution to a problem that could destabilize the entire region. The religious leaders of Iran are faced with a serious internal problem. The younger generation is becoming more and more frustrated with the rule of the religious elite. The 1999 student uprising resulted in a brutal crackdown that led to many being killed and jailed. One leader of the protests Ahmad Batebi was put in jail and has become a symbol and leader of student resistance, he currently lays near death in Evin Prison in Iran. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Batebi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_student_protests,_July_1999 It is men such as this in Iran that I extend my hand to and pray for. To bring down the Iranian government from within is a difficult task but not impossible. To do it will require skill, patience, leadership, commitment and support on the same level I and my students demonstrated. Whether we have the time necessay to do it is another question. That Iran's fanatical regime must be brought down is a given. One hopes we can do it peacefully if not, then other means may have to be used. Ed | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
In Evin prison lay others besides Ahmad Batebi http://www.compassdirect.org/en/newslongen.php?idelement=3718 A Iranian army Colonel Pourmand reportedly was jailed for being christian and deceiving the Iranian armed forces about his religion. For that crime, which he denies, having said that his faith has been known for 25 years, he was sentenced to 3 years in Evin prison. He also served as a pastor in a small Assemblies of God congregation of which his Assyrian Christian wife was a member. In that hellhole known as Evin prison two men meet, and through networks of contacts information is provided and hope is whisphered from one Assembly of God church member to another to another until it reaches into the darkness of Evin prison. From that contact information is passed to Ahmad Batebi and then on to his supporters. In a man made hell one Christian network reaches out to comfort a man that defied the Religous Fanatics that put him there. From my contacts in the Churches we span the Globe and in the darkness a message of hope is sent. Sometimes just knowing that thousands linked to pass a single message is sufficient to bring hope into hell itself. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Saudi bloggers challenge longtime restrictions Young Arabs hope new technology will speed region's pace of reform http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15676312/ Change comes from within Friendly Ghost | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
'Hanoi Hilton' memories EX-POW RECOUNTS CODE THAT KEPT PRISONERS' SPIRITS HIGH http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/15161633.htm Decades ago the prisoners in Vietnam used code to keep hope alive against all odds. Across the Globe as we sit here a message is flowing across from cell phone to computer to person. In the dark it will reach into Evin prison in the form of a message of hope to a dying man from a group of the best and brightest revolutionaries this world has ever seen. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Ivan |
Ed, Friendly, fighting evil is never easy. In fact, this has been the great quest of humankind from the dawn of our humanity. When those who portray evil, even if they don't know it, by coercing others, such as was witnessed by Nazis, or Communist regimes, imprisoning or murdering thousands if not millions of innocent people; they will fight us as if they were in the right, and we in the wrong. The test of this is whether freedom wins, or coercive powers win. The new war is against Jihad, and all the evils it portrays. The brave students of Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or any of the lands dominated by forces that hate, and fear, our human freedoms is but one continuous battle that has been fought, even by our ancestors; we won since we are here. Freedom will win, of course, as it has slowly and haltingly through the millennia, even against this newest manifestation of anti-freedom forces. It does not matter what they call themselves, or what gods they pray to, the battle is very old, and still the same. When victory finally is received by all men and women who love freedom, and understand their victory over the ages of evil, it will be a new world. Maybe not in our lifetime, most likely not, but in the end, humanity as a gift from God as free human beings will usher in a whole new age for our world. That is the Quest, and when it happens, God will have a whole new face for humanity. There is one small hope in the world now, that slavery had been abolished throughout the planet. We long ago erradicated cannibalism, which was once universal to all primitive peoples, and now ended slavery. But we still have one more serious war to fight, to erradicate coercion itself. Then humankind will be free to rise in cosmic consciousness to the next level. It will be done, on Earth, as it is in... Ivan | ||
| Ivan |
Mohideen, is this what you were referring to in your article above, about discussions at the Whitehouse between Bush and Olmert regarding Syria and Iran? Iran key as Israel PM meets Bush http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6142284.stm How could we cooperate with Iran when Israel is preparing for the 'last resort'? I think the discussions will explore multi-level strategies, contingent upon the responsiveness or non-responsiveness of Iran to proposals regarding Iraq. Israel has its own agenda, one of survival as a state within a hostile neighborhood. Israel's future is not as much Iraq dependent, though it could be jeopardized if Iraq regresses into total civil war, where Iran (who wants death to Israel) takes over control of the Iraqi government, in the way it took over control of Lebanon's government through its proxy Hezbollah. So there's a lot on the table. Once US and western Alliance troops start to leave Iraq, perhaps by early next year, the power balance of the region could do a major shift, leaning towards Iran especially, if the Iraq government is unable, or unwilling, to control the sectarian violence. If this happens, it will behoof the US to find a solid alliance with Israel, with support of materiel and military capabilities. The US is also a generous donor to Egypt, but doubtful Egyptians can be reliable allies against another Islamic state. That's just the way the pieces now sit on the board in the Middle East. So military preparedness makes sense at this time, all around. I hope the Kurds get their own state, if all else starts to fall apart here, and can be more an ally to the Alliance than any of the other states around, including Iraq. Still hard to know what's shaping up in the region, as it applies to Turkey or Lebanon, or Russia. Time will tell, but preparedness is the better strategy for now, and get everybody talking. My reservations are that Iran will not play fair, will hide and deceive its true intentions, as they had already demonstrated over the past year regarding its nuclear intent. Stall and delay seems to be their strategy, keeping everybody off balance. I would not trust Iran, not good for their word. No doubt war is deceit, but when peace is deceit, it is useless to talk. Then we get heavy. Oh yeah, the UN. Keep them out of the loop, they're useless. Ivan | ||
| Alliance of Patriots |
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/newsarcen.php?idelement=4533&critere=iran&countr yname=&rowcur=0 After 22 months, Hamid Pourmand is reunited with his family. Iran - Tuesday September 12, 2006 Embeded in this message is a code from the Christians and supporters of the The Alliance of Patriots 22 the number 2 is used to indicate a intelligence section within United States Military Intelligence Organization for example J2, G2 or S2. It was posted on Sept 12 one day after the aniversery of 9/11 by a Christian groups that tracks persecution and the Assemblies of God. The release date in Iran 22 months was chosen to indicate a signal back from moderates in the Iranian system. We begin to establish dialog with powers in Iran operating in the background attempting to influence policy. There is more to the message but that is just the begining. Alliance of Patriots | ||
| peace and Feedom |
Mohideen Ibramsha You are a computer engineer and one last weapon we used in the war of rebellion against George Bush was this. While working on a high level project with the United States State Department, we were using a very powerful algorthym to assist with refining data searches. It would remember what you were looking for, record it and offer you choices on the next search that were based on what it thought you were looking for, bringing up key messages. My group took that technology after the State Department shut the program down and is using it to distribute messages via search engines to its members. Hence the message traffic we are able to access via our PC's and the world wide web, and information coded in specific messages. The Knight Templars did not go away. But are some of the most technological sophisticated people on the planet. My students took the concept and crudely applied it to manipulating the search for candidate information during the election, hijacking the google searches on the World Wide Web. To overthrough the Iranian regime will take a grasp of technology on this level. My Best Ed | ||
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My reservations are that Iran will not play fair, will hide and deceive its true intentions, as they had already demonstrated over the past year regarding its nuclear intent. Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 12:05 am: Ivan The following piece of news, if true, confirms Ivan’s conclusion above. http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20061109-082809-3991r.htm === In January, the German magazine Bild reported that Iran purchased 18 BM-25 land-mobile missiles from North Korea. The BM-25 is a variation of the SS-N-6, a Soviet-made submarine-launched ballistic missile, with a range of up to 1,800 miles. The BM-25, according to Mr. Rubin, "is a nuclear missile...There is no other warhead for this other than a nuclear warhead." The Iranian missile threat is clearly growing. === With respect to Israel and USA my understanding is that we are in a bind. Unless our troops are out of Iraq, we cannot even contemplate an attack on Iran. The possibility of the Iraqi police joining hands with the Sunni insurgents cannot be ignored. Once that happens our forces are at risk whether they are outside their barracks or inside. From Israel’s point of view, any delay in restricting Iran increases her risk. The great dilemma for us is the action we should take if Israel indeed attacks Iran. http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/787238.html === In the interview, Olmert compared Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Adolf Hitler and said "he has to be stopped." "My position is clear," the prime minister said regarding Iran. "If there can be a compromise that will stop Iran short of crossing the technological threshold that will lead them into nuclear capabilities, we will be for such a compromise." "But I don't believe that Iran will accept such compromise unless they have a very good reason to fear the consequences of not reaching it," explained Olmert. "In other words, Iran must start to fear." When asked what he thought could be done about Iran, Olmert said, "I can think of many different measures. The guideline has to be that this government and the people of Iran must understand that if they do not accept the request of the international community, they're going to pay dearly." Responding to the interview, Iran said it would react swiftly and harshly to such a move by Israel. Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told a news conference on Sunday that Iran would put into action its Revolutionary Guards if Israel attacked the Islamic Republic. "If Israel takes such a stupid step and attacks, the answer of Iran and its Revolutionary Guard will be rapid, firm and destructive and it will be given in a few seconds," he said. === As a Muslim I can say that no believer – whether the belief is correct or mistaken – yields to threat. It could be seen in Iran’s response quoted above. The problem that we face is how we ensure that the war of words does not escalate into a war of deeds. Can Russia and China pacify Iran while USA and UK pacify Israel? After all Iran is years away from her first nuclear bomb and thus pacification for a year or two should be feasible. And we should disengage from Iraq within that period. | ||
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Bush calls for global isolation of Iran http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_israel Al-Qaida threatens to topple Lebanon govt. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_politics_al_qaida In the quest to support those fighting for freedom in Iran do we pledge our support and grasp of technology. We support isolation of Iran and the targeted sanctions as proposed by Colin Powell as part of an effort to bring forth change in Iran. To those we add our support in covert communications skills and contacts we are establishing within the structure of Iranian society at all levels. In responce to our efforts Al Qaida seeks to match our capabilities on the great game board. In this war in the shadows do we battle for the hearts, souls and minds of those who seek peace, freedom and justice around the globe. To this end we pledge our lives, property and skills till this war is finished and people may walk freely once again in the Middle East. Alliance of Patriots | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
Iranians outraged as Google redraws map Monday November 13, 2006 1946163%2C00.html,http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1946163,00.ht ml Iran's Internet Police and Intelligence and Security Services surveying the Web have accused Google of attempting to undermine the country's stability by moving the location of city on a map. Now consider the fact that Iranian intelligence is shifting through the web to locate data like this and has been monitoring this website among others. In full view of Iranian Intelligence I and my team have begun to chart the players in their game of network analysis from open sources and actions among other tools at our disposal. We couple this to advanced artificial intelligence search technology and we begin to penetrate Iranian society. Tie this to ancient communication techniques, and religous organizations sharing a common code speak on the bible and the Iranian's begin to react. Releasing a story to probe the waters regarding what we did and are doing. Action and reaction. We drop a Internet communications depth charge and up comes an Iranian message following it. I say hello to the Iranian Intelligence Services and say welcome to our game. I have many things on my plate and will drop in from time to time to chart you networks and expose them. My Best Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Iran’s Khamenei blasts NATO In a recent statement Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei accuses the West of establishing a, "Cultural Nato" that seeks to use the far-reaching capability of the media in order to control countries’ primary source of political, economic, social and cultural development resource" It seems that the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has been getting updates on the Alliance of Patriots activities from Ed's postings from his Intelligence and Security services. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Anon |
Yes Friendly Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has been watching what I and the organization I belong to am doing. When we turned our attention to Iran he started to speak with regards to the, "West". I like to have a face on my desk of my adversaries in the great game. In my mind based on the data I am correlating I am reconstructing the networks that crisscross Iran. From it we test Iran and gage its reaction. Tonnight at the Univerity I will have a discussion of Iran and what we can do to influence it. From his statements teams of psychologists are probing the fears and beliefs of the Ayatollah and his supporters. From that we will, in a decentralized fashion, use that data to bring the war for freedom into Iran before his very eyes using his fears to our advantage. My Best Ed | ||
| Anon |
Friendly, I canvased the University teams that represent various cells, networks teams of specialists to include our technology groups. Concern has been raised about focusing to many resources on Iran. China was put on the table as an emerging threat we need to be concerned about. Pending deliberation of the decentralized cells and a vote we will continue our efforts in the Middle East to penetrate Iran and establish dialog with those opposed to the current leadership, while expanding contacts within China with the student movement that was crushed. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061113/pl_nm/mideast_usa_dc === Leading Democrats and some U.S. allies are calling on Washington to open dialogue with Iran. Bush has rejected direct talks until Tehran suspends uranium enrichment. === We would not talk with Iran until she suspends the enrichment; Iran would not suspend the enrichment until she receives guarantees. A very nice deadlock to be resolved by --- war! | ||
| ANON |
Mohideen Ibramsha, It is this because of this deadlock that I, my students and the Alliance of Patriots, along with the Clinton plan supporters have opened dialog with the moderate and underground members in Iran. We have built, with support of moderate religious groups, networks of contacts to reach across the globe to moderate members of the Iranian Government. In doing so we have constructed an advanced system of communication that defies NSA surveillence capabilities. To do so we used copies of advanced search algorythems that alow us to bring to selected users messages and data sets within which is coded messages, keyed to each member, traffic that only they can decypher. For example the message regarding the Iranian Colonel that was a associate pastor in the Assembly of God that was sent by the moderate Iranians in code. The message was we know that your family is highly placed in the Assembly of God and one former military member is an associate pastor in the Assembly of God. We also know that these members of your family that belong to churches are former intelligence officers, nuclear weapons experts, electronics and cryptographics officers, with access to all forms of high technology possessed by the west, hence the 22 days referenced in the message. We also know that you decieved the religous conservatives in the United States military for 24 years as to your faith. Accept minority status for Christians under our rule, abide by the laws set by us and we will begin to relax our resistrictions over time as we moderates grow in power and influence. Message sent back was as follows: We accept a fair application of the rule of law, and your right to order your society as you see fit as long as you respect the rights of all people with regards to religion. We believe in the one God. We warn you of precipitous actions. Remember the days after 9/11 and our response. As a way of demonstrating our ability to manipulate the internet we posted the change to the Iranian map. It was done to send the following signal. We have our sacred sites that harken back to the great American Revolution and we have the ability to reach out and attack those of yours if necessary. It is a dialog that we are conducting in full view of the world, in an effort to open a line of communication with the moderates in Iran. We have two men in power in this conflict that will not bend and hold fanatical religious beliefs. One in Iran and one in Washington, between the two of them they have made war a likely outcome. In the middle of this conflict we have opened a dialog. In the hope that moderates on both sides will prevail. Ed | ||
| Ivan |
Iran and the Bomb, the Pakistani, N. Korea, and Dutch connection. Mohideen, in your important reference above, it says: And per yours: "Can Russia and China pacify Iran while USA and UK pacify Israel? After all Iran is years away from her first nuclear bomb and thus pacification for a year or two should be feasible. And we should disengage from Iraq within that period." Here is a 'paper trail' of Iran's nuclear bomb aspirations, which track back to Dr. AQ Kahn of Pakistan, On the trail of the black market bomb, BBC News, Feb. 12, 2004: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3481499.stm "The story begins in the early 1970s. An ambitious young Pakistani metallurgist Abdul Qadeer Khan (known in the style of the sub-continent by his initials AQ) was working in the Netherlands for a Dutch company called Physics Dynamic Research Laboratory. ... This is followed by: "Khan back in Pakistan The article also talks of the Libya connection, but they backed out. Lest anyone think Iran is not thinking 'nuclear bomb' here's what Dr. Khan had to say about his own ambitions, a little bit of takkiyya perhaps: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3343621.stm " During his work, Dr Khan insisted that the programme had no military purpose, but following the 1998 tests admitted: "I never had any doubts I was building a bomb. We had to do it."" (italic mine) North Korean eventually supplied some of the missiles for Pakistan's nuclear warheads. The Dutch-British-German consortium Urenco (unknowingly?), supplied the hardware and blueprints. Bottom line is that all this is available on the open 'black' market for spare parts, uranium enrichment centrifuges, blueprints, technical assistance, missile delivery, all for a price, and the will to use it. Why, how could Iran resist? Of course they want the 'bomb'! Every kid on the block has one. Why not a bomb for Somalia? No, no, no, too horrific, even Iran would be against it! Let's hope cooler and smarter heads prevail here, for such a war will be horrific indeed. They don't understand the power they are playing with, though Libya did understand. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378391159&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull === A religious Iranian bomb By DANIEL DORON The Iranians, who always pushed for higher oil prices even under the Shah, are now dependent for their survival on high income from oil. Saudi Arabia wants to curb oil prices to avoid development of alternative fuels and sources. … MEANWHILE, the Iranians cleverly exploit Arab, especially Saudi, hatred against the West and Israel, not only to distract attention from their ultimate goals but to actually assist them, as in Iraq, to gather jihad under the Shi'ite flag. Their sponsorship of worldwide terrorism, their undermining of any possible settlement of the Palestinian issue helps them rile up and distract Arab Sunni masses. They hope that, eventually, when the tsunami of Muslim anger finally breaks its bounds, as they predict, it will also sweep away corrupt Sunni Arab regimes and replace them and their by-then discredited dispensation, by a purer and triumphant Shi'ism. This is an argument I made as long ago as the early 1990s (in The Wall Street Journal, The Financial Times and The Jerusalem Post). A strict oil blockade then, resulting in a severe cut in income, could have undermined the stability of the ayatollahs' regime, dependent on huge welfare payments. It would also have denied them the means for their costly atomic program. Today it may be too late. However, it may still be worthwhile to test how the ayatollahs' welfare- and military-dependent regime copes with a severe drop in oil income. Otherwise, military action seems the only alternative. === Any blockade of Iranian oil would result in a reduction in the world oil supply. Such a reduction is bound to push the oil prices higher simply due to the ‘Law of supply and demand.’ Of course the denial of revenue to the Iranians might speed up the regime change due to internal forces and then the oil could be released. Are we in a position to take the bitter pill of higher oil prices, for a while under our control, to cure mankind of a catastrophic war? The alternative of Iran blockading the oil supply route also results in the price of oil sky rocketing. If the price goes up because of Iranian action the reduction in oil supply could be severe and longer than the cushion, if any, the world economy has. | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Two can play the message game it seems. If we look at the press and certain statements from Tony Blair we have the following words pulled out by a newspaper as being important LONDON, Nov. 13 — Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain said Monday that the “NATURE OF THE BATTLE” had changed and that Western strategy in the Middle East must “EVOLVE,” possibly to include a “NEW PARTNERSHIP” with Iran. He also laced his speech with criticism of Iran, accusing it of “USING PRESSURE POINTS IN THE REGION” to thwart Western diplomacy. Mr. Blair’s NUANCED GESTURES on Iran, and also Syria, were made a day before he speaks by VIDEO LINK to a bipartisan panel in Washington, the Iraq Study Group, on some of the same THEMES. Given Ed's demonstrated capabilities it seems that Blair is trying to become part of the dialog as well. Friendly Ghost | ||
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Yes Ghost he is I have attached the following regarding what I and my organization are engaged in: The U.S. Department of Defense defines psychological warfare (PSYWAR) as: "The planned use of propaganda and other psychological actions having the primary purpose of influencing the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of hostile foreign groups in such a way as to support the achievement of national objectives." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare Information warfare (IW) - also known as 'infowar' - is a term used to describe any range of attempts by one side in a conflict to deny or disrupt an enemy's information and information systems, while preventing adversaries from doing the same to the information and information systems of friendly forces. Couple the above to game theory and you begin to see the nature of the war my distributed network has waged from universities, in the press and with timed release of scandle information. We have now turned that capability on Iran, China and will turn it on Syria as well. During the downsizing of the military some of the best and brightest of the intelligence corps were thrown out of work. Couple that to the gays purged from the military, officers thrown out because of minor infractions of a strick moral code and link all of that training and personnel via the internet. During the downsizing of the military we were concerned the downsized intelligence personnel would sell thier skills to drug dealers or forgien powers. what I have done is link them via the internet to other groups in defense of the freedoms enshrined in our laws and constitution. When I went into a catholic hospital the technician that took my vitals was an ex morse code interceptor from the code war, we had a conversation. About how in the old days in full view of everyone the morse code breakers would tap out mesages to each other and drive the commanders nuts. He smiled when he left. Such is the nature of the Cold War team I have been reconstituting as a distributed intelligence network. That is the capability we brought to bear on George Bush. Ed PS Fake Air Force One Video http://www.stillfree.com/ Take a look at the hat the man that did this is wearing and the name of his site. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Ecko My Best Ed | ||
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PS listen to the video as to why he did it.  Friendly Ghost | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2006/11/14/ap3172225.html === President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday said Iran would soon celebrate completion of its controversial nuclear fuel program. "With the wisdom and resistance of the nation, today our position has stabilized. I'm very hopeful that we will be able to hold the big celebration of Iran's full nuclearization in the current year," the hard-line president said referring to the country's nuclear fuel program. Iran's current calendar year ends on March 20. The hard-line president also claimed that the international community was caving in to Tehran's demands to continue its nuclear program. === What is ‘full nuclearization?’ We are possibly given a time limit until March 20, 2007. Or does Ahmadinejad believe in the following prediction(?): http://www.newprophecy.net/2007part1.htm === NEW PREDICTION: 9/5/06 -- For Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to be able to "declare war" on any nation or group of nations, he must first gain control of Iran's armed forces. Presently, despite all the warlike talk coming out of the Iranian president's mouth, only the mullahs, in particular Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have such control. This will change in February 2007 when Ahmadinejad overthrows the mullah regime with the help of the army and becomes supreme dictator of Iran. His nation will remain an Islamic theocracy, but he will take the place of the supreme ayatollah. His beard will grow thicker and he will begin wearing a black turban. === Let us not forget that Ahmadinejad was a teacher! | ||
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Iran is seeking to take control of Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'eda terror network by encouraging it to promote officials known to be friendly to Teheran, The Daily Telegraph can reveal. http://www.iranvajahan.net/cgi-bin/news.pl?l=en&y=2006&m=11&d=14&a=4 In an interesting move Iran is moving to establish ties to and influence over the Al Qa'eda organization. Saif-al-Adel, a senior Al Qa'eda leader is currently in Iran with hundreds of Al Qa'eda followers and two of Osama's sons under the protection of Iran. Recent intelligence indicates he is being groomed by the Iranians to take over as AL Qa'eda's number three leader. A link to information on him is posted below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_al-Adel By establishing ties to Al Qa'eda Iran seeks to make itself the center/nexus of overlapping networks of terror, intelligence and espionage. In response to this building of networks the Alliance of Patriots stands in opposition. Building and merging our networks of Churches, former military, intelligence and law enforcement personnel and other groups that promote peace freedom and civil rights we plan to counter the spread of Jihadist Fundamentalist Dis-Information by supporting the dissemination of the truth. We also plan to link student activists accross the globe in this fight against Jihadist Fundamentalists and dictatorial regimes and teach them the tactics, techniques and procedures of peaceful revolution that brought down South Africa, the Ukraine, East Germany and the Republican Government of the United States. Such is the task we set ourselves. Alliance of Patriots | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
To the list of Patriots is added Marc Ecko. Such is a good example of the caliber of the technological team the Alliance of Patriots has in its arsenal. In a broad based and decentralized network such has been raised by the Alliance of Patriots, talent and creativity is clearly given free rein. God Bless the Alliance of Patriots Friendly Ghost | ||
| Ivan |
This is how we will win the war, because it is first an ideological war against our freedoms, to coerce us into submission. We will win the war by calling coercion what it is, and fighting this coercion itself. Because it is a religious ideological coercion should not bind our hands in defeating it. It is begging to be defeated, though we do not yet understand this. This article makes it plain: Fighting the Ideological War Author: Jed Babbin on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=695 "We have the ability to tell right from wrong and good from evil and there is no need for us to apologize for that. Nor should we twist our relations with other countries to suit some false moral equivalence. Those who say, for example, that if India or Israel can have nuclear weapons why shouldn’t Iran are guilty of illogic. It is permissible for us, and the rest of the free world, to say that some countries are evil and others are not, and to condition our relations with them all on the basis of our own judgment. To deliver that judgment, and act upon it, is the job of the president." We are fighting those who have abused the Islamic religion for their own political ends, and thus brought their abuse of power into our world with their evil ideology. They must be conquered, in the same way Nazi ideology was conquered. Ivan | ||
| Anon |
Ivan, The words below mirror those that I and my fellow's have lived by throughout the Cold War and carried into Battle against the Republicans who thought you could win this war with bullets alone. In my family we take St. Paul's words to heart. "Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in heavenly realms." To the Corinthians Paul explained that each Christian is to fight this war with spiritual weapons rather than the weapons of the world. Paul wrote "For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2 Corinthians 10:3-5 These words are also mirror by those spoken by Jed Babbin Fighting the Ideological War Author: Jed Babbin on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 01:59 AM http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=695 "We fought the Soviet ideology from 1946 to 1989. In those years, we rode our own ideological roller coaster. For many Americans – and many more Europeans, Africans and others around the world – the only weapon in that ideological battle was self-criticism. They were willing to confuse healthy criticism of our own system of government with praise for the Soviet counterparts. They were even willing to deny the horrific repressions, mass murder and subjugation by force of other peoples." May Peace Prevail, until then we fight the Jihadists and the darkness they would bring. Ed | ||
| Anon |
The Iraq situation has entered a new phase, Sadr has risen from the streets using religion, terrorism, and family connections to a position of power in the Iraqi government. He played a game balancing forces of politics, religion, and terrorism to bring this about and halt the mightiest military machine on the face of the earth. He is now playing that same game against the United States government, using the same tools to try and force the U.S. out and consolidate his hold on power. In this game his network of supporters conduct attacks, raids and other operations to further his hold on power, destroy oposition and bring about a withdrawl of U.S. forces. With cell phones, messages and sermons he influences events. He is opposed by Hakim whose network of supporters were trained in Iran. Hakim holds power in government and plays a game using his network in alliance with Tehran. His game is more subtle and more dangerous. He plays for influence in the government as well. In the Religous circles the forces of moderation and its networks of supporters are controled by Sistani from his holy city. He plays the game as well but uses only gestures and sermons to guide his networks in this fight for control of the destiny of Iraq. Such is the game that is being played out on the streets of Iraq. A battle for control using networks of supporters. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
President of the Iranian Resistance Movement invited to speak before the Norwegian Parliament. http://www.maryam-rajavi.com/content/view/421/61/ In her speach she says she dreams a dream of freedom Friendly Ghost | ||
| Alliance of Patriots |
The following includes an example of the level of security and type of codes that must be used in establishing dialog with the underground movement in Iran. http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/iran/thestory.html "She must be extremely careful as she tries to make contact with Iran's underground student movement. She slips out at night to communicate by email, using a secret code she's developed to communicate with colleagues and sources. But she is careful to return by curfew or risk the hotel receptionist's reporting her" At present the Alliance of Patriots is expanding its network into the World of Islam. We are a organization that adheres to seperation of Church and State and promotes democracy and peaceful revolution. We train, train, teach and mentor freedom loving people and organizations in the tactics, techniques and procedures of peaceful revolution. We work in concert with all peace loving groups and organizations. | ||
| Anon |
Iraq sectarian strife imperils entire region Analysts say civil war is a reality, but real worry is that chaos will spread http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15721405/ Such is the legacy that the NEOCONS created. This is what I fought against and then raised the Alliance of Patriots to strike back at and take back our government. Perhaps it is to late for Iraq. We can only pray for the best Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/16007422.htm === Asked whether his country was considering plans for a preemptive strike on Iran as the Israelis did in 1981 against Iraq, Olmert snapped: "And if there are, do you think that I have to discuss it on television at this time?" He added, "I hope we don't have to reach that stage." Despite the strong rhetoric, an Israeli official later tried to play down the significance of Olmert's U.S. visit, calling it routine. "This is not a dramatic visit. ... Not every visit is a dramatic one," said Israeli foreign affairs spokeswoman Miri Eisin. === Whether the last visit was dramatic or not would possibly depend on the action taken on Iran in the coming days. http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arabtimes/kuwait/Viewdet.asp?ID=9205&cat=a === Saudi Arabia is experimenting with nuclear technology for peaceful purposes but is not interested in acquiring nuclear weapons, the Saudi ambassador in Kuwait said in remarks published Wednesday. … US President George W. Bush will not hesitate to use military force against Iran if other options fail, Israel’s outgoing ambassador to the United States said in an interview published on Wednesday. “I know President Bush well ... From his standpoint, a nuclear Iran, ayatollahs with a bomb, is unacceptable,” Danny Ayalon told Israel’s Ma’ariv newspaper. “I have been privileged to know him well, he will not hesitate to go all the way if there is no choice.” Concern over Iran’s atomic ambitions figured prominently in talks in Washington this week between Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. The US and allies including Israel have accused Iran of pursuing nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian energy programme. Iran denies the accusation. “Anyone who knows President Bush knows that he is very determined. He is convinced of the moral supremacy of democracies over dictatorships ... If the sanctions succeed, all the better. Otherwise, he will act by all means possible, including military action,” he said. === What happens if the UN Security Council does not decide on sanctions at all? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Dear brothers and sisters, Assalaamu Alaikum. I am writing to you in connection with Iran. Inshah Allah you could help in avoiding possible bloodshed in Iran. Alhamdhulillah I did one piece of research that is found in http://deentech.com/Allah_Exists.aspx Could you spare a few moments and check that internal publication? Inshah Allah I hope to do one research specially concerned about the status of women in Iran soon. Allah SWT granted bloodless conquest of Makkah to Prophet Muhammad, pbuh. A Christian has outmaneuvered the Bush administration and brought about the change through the recent election. He is now trying to help restore democracy in Iran through peaceful means. You could find a recent post by him at http://www.humancafe.com/discus/messages/88/145.html?1163375515#POST2331 I have no friends in Iran. I am sure some of you have. He (Ed) suggests that the students and the unemployed join hands to usher in a peaceful revolution. The current Iranian Government is engaged in processing nuclear materials for use in nuclear power plants. Israel and other nations allege that the real purpose is for preparation of nuclear bombs. In view of the following quote, it is stupid to struggle to manufacture nuclear bombs. http://www.cheniere.org/articles/Yakuza%20threat%20including%20tsunamis%20-%20fi nal%20w%20edits%201%20website%20a.doc === According to the present Yakuza/KGB/FSB and international terrorist plans, their actions are expected to reduce the U.S. to lying prostrate and helpless two years from now. With a U.S. nation in utter chaos and ruin, and economically already collapsing catastrophically, a touch-up with the FSB/KGB quantum potential weapons (the most powerful weapons on earth, but possessed by at least five nations) will quickly dud every nuclear weapon, ICBM, nuclear bomber, nuclear power plant, nuclear submarine propulsion system, etc. on the planet {[i]}. The dudding will take about 10 minutes, although an hour or so seems to be allotted for it. This is “pulling the dragon’s teeth and claws.” The conventional strategic military power (ICBMs, nuclear bombs and warheads, and nuclear subs etc.) will be suddenly dudded and effectively wiped out, to exist no more. All that giant strategic apparatus will be just so much trash on the garbage dump of history. ------------------------------------------------- [i]. See (a) T. E. Bearden, Fer-de-Lance, Cheniere Press , 2003 (updated) for some details on quantum potential weapons and their usage. Also see (b) T. E. Bearden, Gravitobiology, Cheniere Press , 2003 (updated) for additional details. Some five nations of the world now possess QP weapons, and a sixth nation is obtaining them. China , Russia , Brazil , Israel , and one other friendly nation are the five present nations. === Notice that Israel is one of the nations possessing the QP weapons. Thus Iran has no chance of using a nuclear weapon against Israel. In case one thinks the dudding of nuclear materials is not possible, consider the following Tradition: http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=moon+folded&translator=1&sea rch=1&book=&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all === Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "The sun and the moon will be folded up (deprived of their light) on the Day of Resurrection." (Book #54, Hadith #422) === The light of the sun is due to nuclear reaction. So we can conclude the appearance of the QP weapons is a pointer to the approach of the Day of Judgment. We should emphasizse that when the Day of Judgment occurs is known to God Almighty only. It could be tomorrow or it could be thousands of years away. What do we desire? We hope that the Iranian Government would abandon the nuclear activities and live in peace. As it transpires, the enemies are using the nuclear weapons as a bait to provoke a war and thus cause a lot of bloodshed. If the current regime would not rest its full belief in Allah SWT and abandon the quest for nuclear technology - whether civil or weapon - the regime needs to be changed. Ed offers to change the regime by peaceful means as he has done in the current US election. Why am I suggesting that we help a Christian change the Iranian regime by peaceful means? There are quite a few world leaders desirous of changing the Iranian regime through war. War necessarily leads to bloodshed. We would like to avoid bloodshed. Why? http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=5&from_verse=32&to_ve rse=32&mac=&translation_setting=1&show_transliteration=1&show_yusufali=1&show_sh akir=1&show_pickthal=1&show_mkhan=1 === Yusus Ali: 5:32 On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. === Whether our efforts to avoid war on the Iranian soil succeed or not, Inshah Allah, we would receive our reward from Allah SWT for our intention of saving life. May I request you to forward this information to your friends - Iranians and others - so that the uselessness of the quest for nuclear technology reaches the people that matter in Iran and we do look forward to peace. Was Salaam | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/11/16/MNG MFMDVFB1.DTL&type=politics === With Iraq policy at a crossroads, the top U.S. commander for the Middle East pleaded Wednesday with Congress for more time and stable troop levels, while acknowledging that only a four- to six-month window remains to stabilize the country before it spins entirely out of control. === One sure way of hiding a minor chaos is to start a major chaos! | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
For the Democratic Congress of the United States A master of the game and his network set the conditions for your victory. That window of oportunity was seized upon by your leadership. Their hard work put you into the halls of power. Like ripples in a pond caused by throwing ever larger rocks into it we created a giant wave as we waged a war in the shadows with weapons of information to give you the chance for victory. You are now faced by players in the great game who oppose you and what you stand for. In Iraq, Sadr, a product of a leathal systems, plays a brutal game with you for control of the destiny of Iraq. The battle is waged on the streets, in the Iraqi Parliament and in the ministries of the government. He is matched in the game by Hakim, a product of the Iranian system, who also opposes you on the great game board. You are the product of the finest schools, nutritional programs, education system and health care system on the planet. One crippled genius backed by an Alliance of Patriots the Churches, and Internet coordinated the downfall of the republicans. The question I pose to you is this, Are you, collectively with all your skills and ability, able to wage war on the great game board to salvage Iraq? In your juncket visits you went to the streets to see bricks and motar projects, when you should have been challenging Sadr and Hakim in the halls of power, leaving the streets to the Military and Reconstruction Experts. Such is the task that has been set for you. I, the Alliance of Patriots and the descendents of the founding families will obserb, consoul and aid from the shadows from time to time. May God Bless and Keep the United States of America Ed Chesky | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1162378411965&pagename=JP ost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull === The IDF and Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) revealed Thursday morning that they had cracked a West Bank-based terror cell which was manufacturing suicide belts made with liquid explosives that could not be detected by metal detectors. … One such belt was worn by cell member Ashraf Hanani, who was arrested in Zahal Square in Jerusalem after he was stopped for a routine ID check in July. === The problem gets complicated! | ||
| Ivan |
AN OPEN QUESTION TO THE STUDENTS OF IRAN: What does "Freedom" mean for the Iranian students? Is theirs a quest for freedom of religion, or political freedom, or philosophical freedom? [For the answer, please go to the discussion: 1400 years of Imperialism, Dismantled, posted today.] Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061117/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush === HANOI, Vietnam - President Bush, on his first visit to a country where America lost a two-decade-long fight against communism, said Friday the Vietnam War's lesson for today's confounding Iraq conflict is that freedom takes time to trump hatred. … Democrats who won control of Congress say last week's elections validate their call for U.S. troops to start coming home soon, while Bush argues — as he did again Friday — for patience with a mission he says can't be ended until Iraq can remain stable on its own. === Does that mean Bush would not sanction an attack on Iran? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/17/AR2006111700193. html === "It's just going to take a long period of time for the ideology that is hopeful _ and that is an ideology of freedom _ to overcome an ideology of hate," Bush said after having lunch at his lakeside hotel with Australian Prime Minister John Howard, one of America's strongest allies in Iraq, Vietnam and other conflicts. "We'll succeed," Bush added, "unless we quit." === Whether Bush quits Iraq or not is not important now. Would he stop his friend in Israel from attacking Iran – as his father restrained Israel during the first Gulf War – so that the attempt to change regime in Tehran by peaceful means has a chance? We agree that the control of nuclear technology under the Mullahs is worrisome. However if the Mullahs are removed from power and the democratically elected President of Iran gets the control there should be no anxiety. Our question is: Would Bush allow time for such a peaceful change of regime in Tehran? | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
Iraq Assessment, In a coordinated attack by elements of the Shia leadership in Iraq two moves on the great game board were made. One in parliament by elements of the Shia leadership with an arrest warrent issued for a Sunni radical cleric. In concert with that action an attack against Western contractors in Shia controled southern Iraq was conducted. These two moves were designed to further Shia control of political power in Iraq and send a signal to the Allied Coalition that the Shia have the power to disrupt allied operations when ever they choose. It was also intended to send a message that politics is backed by force. The allies responded with ground combat forces and attack helicopters. In this game a few pawns were traded by Shia extremists for time spots on the World Wide Web and in the world media. Fighting erupts after foreigners take captive Austrian reportedly killed after he and 4 Americans were seized in Iraq http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15757065/ Meanwhile the radical Sunni cleric named in the arrest warrent is in Jordan speaking and teaching. Under surviellence of the intelligence services of Jordan, he furthers contacts with those that supported the Sunni insurgency by appearing in public and holding a discourse on God, Religion, the Koran and Politics. In doing so he sends a signal back to the Shia that the Sunni have networks of power as well. His statements and actions are linked to recent statements issued by the Suadi's about the possibility of launching government sanctioned and supported covert operations in Iraq if the country security situation continued to deteriorate. Iraq gov't distances itself from warrant for cleric http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15762970/ "Iraq's ethnic Kurdish president, Jalal Talabani, who is a Sunni Muslim, said this week Dari promoted "sectarian sedition" with the support of Arab countries, which he did not name." In this game the forces of moderation are attempting to rally but need support if they are to defuse the Iraqi situation. If not Iraq will become a battle ground between the Sunni extremist forces who seek to impose their view of Islam on the Middle East and the Shia extremist forces. Ed | ||
| Alliance of Patriots |
EXCLUSIVE-Baghdad Shi'ite militant says fighting for all Iraqis http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15747159/ In the battle in Iraq one extremist has learned how to weave the instruments of power, religion and terror into a "Shield" and by doing so is able to walk unhindered within the teaming masses of Sadr city. He uses deception and lies to manipulate the media. He is the counter to what the Alliance of Patriots have striven to do and would teach. As such he is discussed here as an example of what we fight against. Alliance of Patriots | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/789144.html === The public will justifiably want to know what has been done to prevent the threat to its existence posed by Iran, and to stop the possible mass exodus of Jews from Israel, as described by Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh. Domestic pressure calling for military action will intensify. However, experts on strategy have voiced doubts regarding Israel's ability to carry out an effective aerial attack on Iran's nuclear installations, similar to the raid that destroyed Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981. The experts say there are three prerequisites for such an operation: * Accurate and updated intelligence on the locations of the targets, some of which are hidden underground and are well defended * The right kinds of munitions capable of destroying their targets with a high chance of success * Diplomatic coordination with the Americans. The U.S. forces in the region could become targets of Iranian retaliation, just like Israel, and therefore there is no way that an independent Israeli action can take place without authorization from Bush. Did Olmert get such a go-ahead and is this why he was pleased with his visit to the White House? Because of the complexity of an air attack and the uncertainty of its effectiveness, the Israeli experts believe that it is best to take action that would slow down Iran's bid for nuclear arms, instead of aiming for a decapitating strike. International pressure and sanctions were supposed to delay the Iranians, at least until the regime there fell, or some miracle happened. However, it is not working out. === Weak leaders were known to have initiated war to divert attention. Do we run that risk with Prime Minister Olmert? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/president-bush-driving-i_b_34396.html has compared Iraq with Vietnam. The casualties in Vietnam over the first four years were (1961: 16); (1962: 52); (1963: 118) and (1964: 206). He has plotted the figures for additional 3 years as well: (1965: 1,863); (1966: 6,143) and (1967: 11,153). He plotted the Iraq data for the first 4 years: (2003: 486); (2004: 848); (2005: 846); and (2006: 685). He concludes as follows: === As you can see, in the first four years of Vietnam, there were fewer deaths per year than in Iraq. What's also clear is that in the fifth year of Vietnam (the equivalent of 2007) the death toll rose significantly. The same with the sixth year and the seventh year and so on. But the most significant aspect of this graph are the deaths that occurred AFTER the fourth year of the war. These post-fourth-year numbers suggest that President Bush, with his escalation and stay the course talk, is driving the Iraq War directly into a wall of death. I mean, the graph literally illustrates the shape of a wall. Of course the total casualty figures in Iraq are astronomical already but if we look at the raw numbers of American military deaths and factor in the almost universally agreed-upon prediction that victory in Iraq is a lost cause, then correlate it all with the historical precedent of a similar war with a similarly lost cause, the die is cast. === I agree with the spirit of the above argument but not with the mathematics. Let us consider the ratios for both Vietnam and Iraq. 1962 deaths / 1961 deaths gives 3.25 while the corresponding ratios for 1963/ 1962 and 1964 / 1963 are 2.27 and 1.75. Even though the multipliers were decreasing, they were more than 1. The same does not hold true for Iraq with the ratios being 1.74, 0.997, and 0.81. The ratios are decreasing with the important difference that they are less than 1. So on what basis could we extrapolate and say that the continuation of the Iraq war by injecting more troops would result in a debacle similar to Vietnam? I have imagined myself to be a war hawk while writing the above paragraph! We have to consider the similarities: In Vietnam we had weapons advantage when the war started; and the Vietnamese neutralized that advantage in four years of fighting. Similarly, we entered the Iraq war in 2003 with advanced weapons. Have we produced qualitatively better weapons during the four years? Have we supplied our sons and daughters inside Iraq with advanced weapons and defensive shields? The answer is NO! So the extrapolation by Bob Cesca, even though wrong by numerical projection, is right by psychological projection. What are we to do? The Congress had authorized the Iraq war and the Commander-in-Chief is prosecuting the same. The military commanders are supporting the Commander-in-Chief as expected. Don’t forget that in the military hierarchy the subordinate officer is duty-bound to support the superior. Since the Congress is superior to the Commander-in-Chief could we expect the Congress to act and save our children? The Congress is expected to reconvene. From http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=146728 we have: === Both the Senate and the House of Representatives will now hold a joint conference when the lameduck session reconvenes on December 4 to reconcile their respective versions and approve a final draft of the legislation. === Could we dream for miracle that the combined session of the lameduck Congress and Senate would pass an unanimous resolution on the lines of: The Congress and the Senate suspend the authorization given to the Commander-in-Chief to prosecute war outside the borders of USA (but to secure the safety of our troops) until the newly elected Congress and the newly constituted Senate could consider the opinion of the population of USA and formulate appropriate policies. Do we hope? | ||
| Ivan |
Voice of reason on the neo-Vietnamization of the Middle East, and the Iraq 'disaster'. It is the hopes of those who oppose change of power in the Mid East that US and UK alliance gets bogged down in a neo-Vietnam scenario, which history knows is a lost cause. The 'disaster' in Iraq, as verbally posited by Al-Jazeera interviewer Sir David Frost to British Prime Minister Tony Blair, led to a disingenuous response by Mr. Blair, where he repeated the question using the word 'disaster' in polite response (he's so English), but did not confirm that it was in fact a 'disaster'. As he corrected later: The difficulty is that Iraqi are killing Iraqis at record rates, which Mr. Blair acknowledged, but in fact "He was simply acknowledging the question in a polite way before going on to explain his view" (Downing Street spokesman), and not confirming the Alliance policy as disaster. Critics would like to paint it that way, focussing on only one aspect of the total picture involved in Iraq, which is complex. There is a power play by religious clerics on both sides to gain as much force as they can by using their own militias to determine the country's future. This power play is brutal in ways not acceptable to civilized society, so for us who are more inclined towards peaceful democratic resolution of political differences look on in horror, and thus call it a "disaster". But this is a condition particular to that Mid East Islamic culture, where the use of suicide bombers to kill is not something we can relate to in our own culture. This power play must work itself out, where the newly elected government of Iraq, same as in Afghanistan, must find the means to control the sectarian-religious Sunni-Shia conflicts. There could be a neo-Vietnamization in Iraq, since same as in Vietnam, foreign interests are sending in fighters and weapons to continue the destabilization of the country. In Vietnam is was China that lent great support to the North VC, while in Iraq it is Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and a host of other Muslim states who all have a stake in making sure Iraq does not succeed as a democratic state, so they support either side of the Sunni-Shia divide, to keep Iraq firmly within the theocratic-political sphere of Islamic controlled interests. Iraq may appear a 'disaster' to the outside world, though it may only be business as usual for the Iraqis, but is it really a neo-Vietnamization of Iraq? There are vast differences between Iraq and Vietnam. First of all, the Alliance is not sending in troops for a massive buildup of the war, which did happen in the mid-1960s in Vietnam when the American forces increased dramatically under the Democratic president Lyndon Johnson. That build up was perhaps justified then, since the war was between the Communist North Vietnam and the so-called democratic South Vietnam. There is no such north-south divide in Iraq. The casualty figures for Vietnam rose dramatically with this military buildup, as more troops were present to take casualties; there is no massive troop build up in Iraq, so the numbers will be smaller. If the US and Alliance were to send in a million men into Iraq, perhaps the number of casualties would rise in commensurate proportion, but that is not about to happen. Rather, the talk now is how to disengage from the Iraq conflict, and lower the number of foreign troops to give the Iraqi government a chance to get a handle on its internal insurgency. But Iraq is really only one small front on a much larger war: the western Alliance is fighting against the aggressive ambitions of a world Jihad led by the Islamic theocracy imperialism, which wants to fight the West on many fronts, from European demographics to worldwide terrorist attacks. Their goal is a gradual retreat on all fronts by Western interests with the eventual importation of Sharia law into the host nations to supplant their democratic constitutional laws. In effect, the theocratic Islamic goal, of which Iraq is but one small battle front, is to create a series of 'states within a state' with its Islamic Sharia Jihad agenda, so to gain destabilizing footholds in European and ultimately all democratic nations, so they could start to rule from within. However, as Lebanon demonstrates, the idea of a state within a state, such as Hizbollah within Lebanon, is not a workable solution, but one that leads to greater conflicts. So at all cost, all Western and democratic nations must avoid these Sharia-jihadi inroads into their country's rule of law and constitutional democracies. So this is the larger picture, the real war between Sharia-jihad imperialism and the Western Alliance. Iraq is not as important to this bigger war as is now perceived, so a neo-Vietnamization 'domino' effect is not necessarily what happens if Iraq is turned over to the Islamic fundamentalist interest, since it would mean only one state lost to Jihad, but certainly not a 'disaster'. The problem is thus contained within their borders. It would be a disaster if that Islamization were not contained within the Middle East and spread to the Western world, which is something that cannot be allowed under any circumstances. The West cannot allow Sharia states to exist within their democratic constitutional states, or that is a neo-Vietnamization which cannot be allowed. In fact, rather than a troop buildup in Iraq, or Afghanistan, it is wiser for Western interests to contain their Sharia-jihadi conflicts within the borders of Islam, so pull out. This is their dog fight, and you do not want to put your hand in it, or you get bit. Instead, we should be pulling out of that dog fight, gradually, to let the masters of these dogs work it out, which means support their democratically elected governments. If they accept Sharia state-within-a-state inside their borders, that is their problem, one we cannot solve for them. What we must be conscious of, and painfully aware with the terrorist threat worldwide, is that these same Sharia-jihad interests cannot penetrate our borders, no matter how many Muslim immigrants live here. They cannot have it their way within our religiously tolerant societies, or else we are allowing a separate and intolerant political force, Sharia, within our borders, which destabilizes the free societies we had worked so hard and long to establish for ourselves. We cannot sacrifice our stability to these foreign interests, interests that covet our social successes in stark contrast to their social and economic failures. To do so would be to sacrifice our freedoms for their intolerant imperialistic Sharia-jihad ambitions, which we cannot. So we must separate out the Iraqi-Iran-Afghanistan conflict from the broader conflict of Western civilization and Islamic Sharia. Their greater Jihad is against us and our way of life, and it may not be allowed to penetrate our borders, but rather be kept at war inside their own borders. In this way, let them exhaust themselves, without a heavy penalty on our troops with casualties. If they want to kill each other, that is their business. But if we make that killing our business, then indeed it would be a 'disaster' and a neo-Vietnamization. We do not want that. What can happen in Iraq or Afghanistan, or even Iran? They are forced to reform from within. That is where our help should be directed, not with troops, but with support for those individuals and parties within their states that want to disenfranchise the Jihadi Sharia interests and move towards more modern societies built upon the successful model of constitutional democratic principles. The flames of Jihad within their borders can burn out, either with great fire or chocked off from a lack of air. Either way, we win. What we do not want is to fan those fires further with our presence, nor empower their Jihad in any way, while at the same time we are neglecting to put out the Sharia-jihad sparks burning inside our own borders. This is the big issue before President Bush and Congress, as well as for the European leadership, as well as Israel's. Can they disengage from the Mid East conflict, first in Iraq now that Saddam Hussein's regime is turned over to their own government, as well as in Afghanistan, and support the new regimes of Afghanistan and Iraq with moral support, and financial aid, but not necessarily military support, so to avoid neo-Vietnamization. In fact, I think financial support may be too generous already, since much of it goes unaccounted for. Where is the money spent? What will happen is in our disengagement, the governments of these new states will be forced to address their own internal issues of Islamic fundamentalist Sharia-jihad, and solve it themselves. We've done what we need to do in the Middle East, now it's their dog fight. Iran with its nuclear bomb ambitions is a separate story. Regime change there is of primary importance, if we are to avoid a possible nuclear conflagration in the region. The Sharia-jihad empowered with nuclear weapons is a world threat, with Europe and Israel especially at risk. In the interest of world peace, the Iran theocratic regime must be addressed with force, and extreme force if necessary, if the people of Iran cannot reign in their nuclear aspirations, or their ingrown Sharia-jiahd. That is firstly their problem, to democratize and secularize their government; but if they fail, then it becomes our problem. And that could be a major problem that would rival Vietnam if not caught early enough, which further connects to Pakistan's nuclear armaments, and ultimately all the way to North Korea's nuclear arsenal. Even China with its immense demand for oil would get involved. Not to be alarmist, but nuclear weapons in the hands of Jihadi ambitions of worldwide-Sharia could lead the world into an age of nuclear war, with massive appropriations of Middle East oil territory by China and Russia. This would be bad for the West. We cannot let the "we love death" people win this one, or their suicidal death becomes our own. The costs are too high, so they must be stopped. In conclusion, there is no neo-Vietnamization in Iraq. Conditions are as they should be, where they must internally control the dog fight. Our time, after nearly four years, has come to withdraw. We did what we needed to do, without troop buildups, and now it is up to the Iraqi government to control their Sharia-jihad, if they want to. Our military presence should be restricted only to the Kurdish areas bordering Iran. Iran is the next big fight, if they do not contain their nuclear ambitions. The world has asked them to stop, and is watching their uranium project carried out in shadowy darkness. In the cold light of day, and of reason, we shall see. Ivan | ||
| Anon |
Ivan, A very good assessment of the Middle East situation. It matches comments by General Barry R. McCaffrey today with regards to the Vietnam comparison of Iraq. With regards to Iran's development of nuclear weapons and missile launch systems. It is important to note that we are pushing forward with our missile defense systems. Unlike Mohideen Ibramsha's belief that quantum weapons have been developed, something that is not true, but is possibly likely in the future for us or has been developed by other advanced civilizations out in the universe, we only have our high technology to rely upon with regards to defending against this threat. To that end we are decades ahead of the Iranians. At present we are in the first stages of developing and fielding laser based missile defenses. We have also developed and deployed advanced missile interceptors with limited artificial intelligence capability capable of distinguishing between decoy and real missiles and picking the appropriate portion of a missile to hit in order to destroy it. This technoloy was demonstrated on recent smart satellight probes we launched in terms of autnomous guidence systems. At present, according to open press sources, we are in the process of surveying and negotiating for base rights to deploy systems to defend Europe from an Iranian missile attack, as well as Japan. It is highly likely that we will bring this capability online long before Tehran is able to mate a nuclear warhead to a missile. In addition to this we are now begining to bring out old Cold War weapons systems for possible development and deployment. One of these projects was coded named Thor during the Cold War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment In the current race to contain the spread of WMD to states like Iran we have begun to build a balistic missile shield and precision strike KE weapons capable of taking out any bunker complex or deep buried facility without the need for a nuclear strike. When we were struck by Osama and the towers fell, we learned a valuable lesson. As our forces fight in Iraq we are bringing online and into development a military capability that has never been seen before. One capable of reducing nation states to ruble from orbit. I truly hope the people of the Middle Understand what they have done by striking Europe and the United States. In our labs and research facilities we are designing and bringing to test weapons they can never hope to match. Should they continue this fight they will face forces beyoind their imagination Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
http://www.missiledefenseadvocacy.org/index/Aug202006.html "The reported ongoing discussions with Poland and the Czech Republic with the United States will lead to agreements to expand missile defense bases in both countries so that the United States and Europe with their populations will have protection against ballistic missile attacks stemming from the Middle East." US Air Force Plans for Future War in Space http://www.cndyorks.gn.apc.org/yspace/articles/usaf_trans_plan.htm "While the Transformation Plan is looking ahead, and does not contain budget estimates for the programs identified as requirements, it does make it clear that space weapons are indeed envisioned as part of the future U.S. arsenal – and further that technologies to enable these weapon systems are now being researched and developed. The plan breaks out planned programs via time of desired deployment: near-term, defined as prior to 2010; mid-term, 2010-2015; and long-term, 2015 and beyond. ASAT capabilities, including destructive kinetic energy missiles and lasers, and space-strike weapons fall in the latter category." It seems that Ed's discussion of his team's capability was right when he said he had access to a tech database that was greater than that available to Al Qa'eda via the internet. Couple that to his knowledge of Advanced Weapons Systems, and now we know why the United States has a GPS tracker in his phone. Within his head is the complete advanced military weapons systems capability of the United States and Europe. Now we know one of the reasons why PANAM 103 was destroyed over Lockerbee. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Anon |
Thanks Friendly, Yes in my head are the complete tech specs to every advanced weapons sytem of the Cold War, advances in artificial intelligence, and our European and United States military command and control systems. This is what was thrown into the streets by the Bush Administration and in concert with others purged from federal service brought down the republican government. Couple that knowledge to neuroregeneration capability, poison resistance, HIV resistance due to a genetic mutation and an ability to visualize the battle space, fuse data streams into a coherent image, trisect the angle and solve the billiard problem and now you know what has been making deals with the churches and other groups to build a global intelligence network to oppose Al Qa'eda For 24 years I read every classified document on the advanced military capabilites of every nation on this planet. George Bush is a distant cousin of mine from our common ancestors on the May Flower. My side of the family got a little upset over him laying me off, getting us stuck in a War in Iraq and violating the Geneva Conventions and Laws of the United States. So we and others decided to take down the Republican Government to prove a point. When I travel the Mosad, and European Intelligence Services watch my back. While on vaction my resort was over flown by a helicopter from a European Warship off the coast. Enough said I think. I have a number of things on my plate at the moment and have number of papers I need to write for my masters level program. I currently hold a 3.6 GPA despite brain damage, due to an ability to regenerate neuro-connections. I also have the capability to retrieve, due to a self induced hypnotic state, all data I have read over the course of my life. The United States Government tried to teach me a lesson about national security, and in turn has been taught a lesson about what the house of Christ and the Knight Templars were playing with for the last 2000 years. Hence why all church doors are open to me and my family. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Genetic HIV Resistance Deciphered http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,66198,00.html "Throughout the history of the AIDS epidemic, a few lucky people have avoided infection despite being exposed again and again. Now, researchers are traveling back in evolutionary time to understand why some people are resistant -- and in some cases virtually immune -- to the AIDS virus." Friendly Ghost Post Script Siege of Malta (1565) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Malta_%281565%29 In 1565 a handful of the Knights of Malta faced the full force of the Ottoman Empire. They destroyed the forces thrown against them. The falcon was their symbol. Their leader was made a Prince of the Church for his actions During the Korean War, I tended men that took fatal wounds yet kept on fighting and held the line until the battle ended. Then they died. During that war we faced the Chinese hordes. Sometimes we have to be reminded of what is possible. | ||
| Ivan |
An alternate point of view on why Iran is suddenly belligerent, and dangerous. "Control of oil prices is behind Iran's systematic military preparations to control the gulf's shipping lanes. It was behind the bloody Iraq-Iran war, and it is still a major Iranian objective. It made Iran occupy the islands in the gulf's exit and establish a base in the horn of Africa to stop US reinforcements coming through Suez. The possession of an atomic bomb will, at a minimum, neutralize Western resistance to Iran's gradual control of the flow and price of oil. Iran could counter any Western intention to intervene militarily against such control by a credible threat to blockade oil shipping or incinerate the gulf's oil fields and vulnerable loading facilities, thus plunging the West into a deadly economic crisis." Read it all: A religious Iranian bomb http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378391159&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull "The West is not likely to confront a fanatic, nuclear-armed Iran over the price of oil. It will most likely compromise, namely, cave in. Iran will then be able to initiate a huge transfer of wealth that will gradually impoverish and strangulate Western economies and facilitate their "peaceful" domination by Islam (see what Arab oil money has already achieved in Europe)." Then, of course, there's the destruction of Israel, all on the Sharia-jihad imperialistic agenda of the Iranian ayatollahs... And then there is this: Iran: The fourth option http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1159125866030&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull Their Ayatollah is Supreme, and the people are his enemy. This is the 'fourth option' where the people of Iran take back their power from the theocratic dictatorship and establish a legitimate democratic constitutional government, where the citizens are no longer treated like the enemy, and persecuted harshly. This is important. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
In addition to this we are now begining to bring out old Cold War weapons systems for possible development and deployment. One of these projects was coded named Thor during the Cold War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment In the current race to contain the spread of WMD to states like Iran we have begun to build a balistic missile shield and precision strike KE weapons capable of taking out any bunker complex or deep buried facility without the need for a nuclear strike. Ed Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 08:36 pm: Anon The possibilities of deploying a system like ‘Rods from gods’ does not preclude the existence of Quantum Potential weapons. QP weapons draw the required energy from the vacuum and use that energy to produce the desired result. There are physical requirements like the amount of time the energy needs to be applied to produce the desired effect. http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001557.html === A [third] seeks to turn radio waves into weapons whose powers could range "from tap on the shoulder to toast." Obviously, the military is very interested in high-powered microwaves -- the Active Denial crowd control system is the best example. But microwave weapons, based in space? That's just wishful thinking. === Of course before they were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the atom bombs too would have appeared as wishful thinking. I would not rule out the existence of QP weapons. I only hope the youngsters in Iran consider the possibility of the existence of QP weapons and work towards abandoning the development of ‘nuclear technology’ that is obsolete in comparison to QP weapon systems. I like to prepare for the most powerful potential arsenal of the enemy rather than suffer hubris assuming that the enemy has no such weapon as rumored in the web. It is infinitely better that the mullahs abandon their quest for a nuclear technology that is obsolete in particular when the acquisition of such technology is used as an excuse to initiate bloodshed by the enemies. | ||
| Ivan |
And who is the 'enemy'? is the West the enemy? Or is the Ayatolla Supreme the enemy? Or is tyranny of religious dogma the enemy? Is Islamic Sharia Jihad the enemy? Is western democratic freedom the enemy? Is equality of the sexes and tolerance of belief the enemy? Is scientific truths the enemy? Or is the biggest bomb the enemy? Who is your 'enemy'? | ||
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| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Who is your 'enemy'? Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 11:47 am: Ivan My enemies are the ‘War Mongers’ irrespective of their nationality or religion. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/19/ftn/main2199539.shtml === A senior House Democrat said Sunday he will introduce legislation to reinstate the military draft, asserting that current troop levels are insufficient to sustain possible challenges against Iran, North Korea and Iraq. "There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) said on CBS News' Face the Nation. === Contrast the above implied threat to the current lame-duck administration of the Commander-in-Chief Bush that if they enlarge the conflict zone they better be prepared to have their children drafted and possibly sent to the war zone with the army groups’ response stated below. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/19/AR2006111901249_ pf.html === The military's study, commissioned by Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Peter Pace, comes at a time when escalating violence is causing Iraq policy to be reconsidered by both the White House and the congressionally chartered, bipartisan Iraq Study Group. Pace's effort will feed into the White House review, but military officials have made it clear they are operating independently. … Under this mixture of options, which is gaining favor inside the military, the U.S. presence in Iraq, currently about 140,000 troops, would be boosted by 20,000 to 30,000 for a short period, the officials said. … Under the hybrid plan, the short increase in U.S. troop levels would be followed by a long-term plan to radically cut the presence, perhaps to 60,000 troops. === To my computer-trained brain, the Army’s recommendation is excellent. If there would be a draft, the forces might increase; if there is no draft, the forces would be withdrawn to save our children. Great indeed! | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15788875/site/newsweek/page/2/ === There is no way to turn off this global economy, nor should one try. Every previous expansion of global capitalism has led to greater prosperity across the world. The story of the past 100 years is one of an ever-expanding pie. But this is a massive, complex process and requires enormous focus and attention. And while other nations around the world, from China to Chile, are playing to win, the United States as a government has barely focused on any of the major challenges or opportunities that it presents. We're too busy settling disputes between Sunnis and Shiites in downtown Baghdad. A century ago, another great global power was similarly occupied halfway across its world, fighting a war and organizing the constitutional arrangements of Dutch farmers in the Southern Transvaal. Great Britain eventually won the Boer War, but it lost its focus on the economic challenges it faced. And finally it lost something else: its standing as one of the great global powers. === Great economic lesson with implications on war mongering! If we go for the draft so that the current and future wars could be prosecuted, we lose on the economy and thus lose everything! | ||
| Ivan |
Maybe Iran is not so far from developing the bomb? Report: Israeli spies active in Iran "Iran has developed and tested a trigger device for a nuclear bomb, Israeli agents stationed there have told the White House, according to a report published in the New Yorker on Monday morning." This is not what CIA reports said, that Iran is still far from developing a nuclear bomb. Does that now make Iran the 'enemy'? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
This is not what CIA reports said, that Iran is still far from developing a nuclear bomb. Does that now make Iran the 'enemy'? Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:16 am: Ivan No, it does not make Iran the enemy. Let us not forget the Human Intelligence offered to start the Iraq war during March 2003. We were then told and were even given satellite photographs of WMD and we are in a mess now. Israel might very much like to have Iran attacked by us immediately. Having suffered deception through the Human Intelligence offered that started the Iraq war; we need independent verification before we can attempt to neutralize the Iranian threat. As we have said earlier, there is danger if the mullahs get the bomb; there is no such danger if the mullahs are removed from power and a democratic Iran gets the bomb. In any case the Iranians are repeatedly telling that they are developing the technology for civilian power only. Incidentally a lot of research might be carried out using components. Since when do we believe that mastering the use of a component leads to successful integration of many subsystems? Any Human Intelligence that frightens us to initiate military action that preempts peaceful regime change is suspect. Let me repeat some civilian leaders in trouble initiate wars to divert attention. The Israeli Prime Minister needs to divert attention. Are we, the Americans, also in need to divert attention; that too after a peaceful revolution has changed the Congress? | ||
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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20796468-1702,00.html === "If at the end, because of the US engagement in Iraq, Iran becomes nuclear, it might be seen as a mistake ... if we are now in a stage that the West is bogged in Iraq and not going to deal with the rogue regimes, historically it will be judged in one way." Lt Gen Yaalon said he believed the western military could make effective air strikes on Iranian nuclear sites if the regime pushed ahead with its nuclear program. He refused to say whether he thought Israel might carry out strikes on its own if the US refused to take party. === http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=10364 === Concerning Iran, Livni said the Security Council made a decision in July that if the Iranians did not stop uranium enrichment, the international community would impose sanctions on Iran. And here already three months have passed and nothing has happened and now has come the time that the international community will place sanctions on Iran. “From the point of view of the Security Council decision we are three months late,” Livni said. Livni said Israel had lost a year of negotiations with the Palestinians after a Hamas victory in Palestinian elections. She said Hamas should not have been allowed to take part in the elections because they sponsor terrorism. === http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=118573&version =1&template_id=43&parent_id=19 === “The CIA found no conclusive evidence, as yet, of a secret Iranian nuclear weapons programme running parallel to the civilian operations that Iran has declared to the International Atomic Energy Agency,” according to the article. “A current senior intelligence official confirmed the existence of the CIA analysis, and told me that the White House had been hostile to it,” it said. The United States has accused Iran of pursuing nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian energy programme. The article, in the current issue of the magazine, discussed how Vice President Dick Cheney believed the Bush administration would deal with Iran if the Republicans lost control of Congress as they did in the November 7 election. “If the Democrats won on November 7th, the vice president said, that victory would not stop the administration from pursuing a military option with Iran,” Hersh wrote, citing an unidentified source familiar with the discussion. – Reuters === http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/opinion/?id=18392 === Commissions come and go. Cheney's influence over war-making will be somewhat diluted by the presence of Robert Gates at the Pentagon. But the vice president remains the ultimate in-fighter. === Do we hear the war drum faintly? | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Elder Bush takes on son's Arab critics http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_defending_bush ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates - Former President George H.W. Bush took on Arab critics of his son Tuesday during a testy exchange at a leadership conference in the capital of this U.S. ally. The Elder Bush went to Dhabi and was mocked by the audience. What do you think the chances are that Ed will be treated kindly when he visits? For a man that tried to save 75,000 Pakistani's from death in a quake and others along the Pacific rim faultlines following the great quake. I think he will be treated with respect. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Alliance of Patriots |
In the Name of Liberty http://www.persecution.org/suffering/newssummpopup.php?newscode=3985&PHPSESSID=0 2832fcf78079903c7a1653b0c32c4a0 This is a translation of a Persian article entitled “Persecution of the Church in Iran” from: http://www.hra-iran.blogfa.com/post-257.aspx The translator’s notes are enclosed in square braces.] The article contained in the link above contains coded information for the Alliance of Patriots. It is keyed to our Director of Intelligence, Major Edward A. Chesky Jr. The source material is verified via a code contained in the translators statement below. The information was posted on a Iranian Muslim Underground Website. It was translated by an exile Iranian Group and forwarded by a Christian Group. http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/185439.php Coded Statement Follows: [It is worth noting that the “Three Wise Men from the East” who foresaw the birth of Christ and worshipped the newly born Jesus were Iranian Magi. The Magi were the cast of the learned whose social function was to literate their fellow citizens in material and spiritual matters. Their line was brought to a brutal end by the Islamo-Arab hordes who believed that the only thing worth learning is the Qoran.] Alliance of Patriots | ||
| Anon |
For the Iranian Underground, Message translated as follows: We request advanced technical support in our effort to coordinate our opposition to the Iranian government. Your actions seem like majic to us and we are willing to learn. Our technical capabilites have been destroyed by the government. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
The following is about an Iranian student leader of the underground in Iran and how he communicates to the people of Iran. From IrainianVoice.org http://www.iranianvoice.org/article1647.html Fakhravar’s decision to run and his pesky refusal to keep quiet have put his life in danger. An Iranian tribunal informed his sister earlier this year that Iran’s anti-riot police have a standing order to shoot him on sight. But the threat of death appears not to have intimidated him, and he continues to devote his energies to the cause of Iranian democracy. He does this by communicating with Iranian students, whom he characterizes as deeply hostile to the rulers in Tehran. It is a strange commentary on the extent to which Iranian speech is suppressed — and on the peculiarities of the Internet age — that among the best ways for Fakhravar to reach his audience is by speaking with American journalists whose work finds its way to the Iranian underground. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Anon |
Thanks Ghost, To the students of Iran I have demonstrated how to use code speak to evade surveillence. Lesson one in underground revolutionary opperations. The rest is up to you Look for support on the Internet. Our decentralized network will assist your efforts. Ed | ||
| Anon |
U.S. officer awaits Abu Ghraib decision FORT MEADE, Md. - The buck stops with Lt. Col. Steven Lee Jordan http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061122/ap_on_re_us/abu_ghraib_officer As Abu Graib descended into Chaos a conflict erupted in the Chain of Command between this man and the CDR of the MI Brigade he belonged to. I served with Col Pappas in Korea years ago. I knew him well then and he was fine officer. Many men were tainted by the scandle of Abu Griab. At the trial of Col Jordan many things will come out and many fingers will be pointed. As I sit here in my study. My wife is downstairs resting and we are begining to plan the restoration of the outside of our 110 year old home in a fine properous neighborhood. I have in my hands a compass and ruler and draw two circles on a piece of paper and from the point where the two circles touch I draw an arc. From where the arc touches the edge of the two circles I two curves. From the intersection of those curves I draw a circle. I then take my straight edge and draw three lines connecting a series of points and create a perfect Isoceles triangle in a circle. Some truths are hard to argue with. Ed | ||
| Anon |
Poisoned ex-spy 'had powerful enemies' http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/11/22/uk.spypoisoned.reut/index.html LONDON, England (CNN) -- An Italian contact of a former Russian spy who was poisoned in London said on Wednesday the Russian mafia and corrupt government officials had a strong motive to silence Alexander Litvinenko. I still rember the old former KGB/DGI officers in Mexico City when we out for dinner. One smiled at me and made a gesture as if pulling a gun from under his jacket. The head of group was a tall thin, hard older man, from the days of the Cold War. The resturaunt we ate in provided tall attractive young women for well heeled men whose tastes ran to that sort of thing. The head of the group had just come down from upstairs after fulfilling his desires with a young attractive woman, who cringed in fear as he smiled and carressed her face. I still rember the look he gave me as he left with his bodyguard. Then came a poison cocktail of drugs to ruin one of the finest minds of the cold war out of spite after the theft of my laptop. The stakes were high and the rules were if you failed you died. Russian mafia worms way into Mexican drug cartels BY SUSANA HAYWARD Knight Ridder News Service http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/7285-14.cfm One last game played on the streets of Mexico city for a laptop. This is what left me broken and driven to the edge of madness. I am now done for the evening working on a paper from school and posting a few notes here. I have looked at the seismic data and like Ivan remain concerned. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/cm/main/viewArticle.aip?id=10134&page=all === As the gap between rich and poor has widened to an unprecedented degree, the corruption of the ruling mullahs, and their ostentatious way of life, have made a mockery of slogans like “Islamic solidarity.” === The above article is excellent; it is a must read. I seek further information regarding the ‘ostentatious way of life’ of the ruling mullahs. A 70 plus Iranian professor in Washington, DC area informed me that in Iran one could have 4 regular wives and 50 temporary wives. Is there any open information regarding the number of wives of some of the ruling mullahs? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=6713 === If Arabs and Muslims in general are not only espousing plans for the destruction of Israel, but also openly advocating those genocidal designs as a “solution” to the Middle East problem, then Israel has every right in the world to undertake whatever measures necessary to guarantee its existence and security. What Ahmadinejad has on his tongue, most Arabs have in their minds. The Arab mindset will change only after a string of substantial defeats that will show them they are losing at every turn in their battle with Israel. === Are we looking for a repeat of 1967? http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/22/africa/ME_GEN_Israel_Olmert.php === "We heard the voices in the past of leaders of nations that are talking about the liquidation of the Jewish people," Olmert said. "We can't afford ... to listen and not to react." "We can't allow anyone in any place in the world to continue their routine without responding," Olmert said. … Israel's official policy is that an Iranian nuclear weapon would endanger the whole Western world, not just Israel, and Israel would not lead the effort to contain the threat. … Olmert said he discussed the problem with U.S. President George W. Bush during his talks at the White House last week. "I found understanding and commitment by the great friend of the state of Israel that resides in the White House," he said. === We are concerned about the ‘commitment’ and hope that the Commander-in-Chief does not initiate attack on Iran. Any attack on Iran would result in avoidable bloodshed; the better course of action is to change the regime by peaceful means. | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Iran's Sex Slaves Suffer Hideously Under Mullahs http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581370/posts Regime Change in Iran: An Analytic Framework Strategic Insights, Volume II, Issue 11 (November 2003 http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/nov03/middleEast2.asp Friendly Ghost | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/nov03/middleEast2.asp Iranian dissidents are fragmented, ranging from monarchists to the notorious Mujaheddin Khalq (MEK) which was allied with Saddam Hussein. The virtual elimination of social freedoms make it hard for Iranians to coalesce around any single group. The opposition is thus fragmented, not unlike the opposition to the Shah. There is a yearning for a charismatic leader who can unify the opposition but as witnessed with Khomeini, this is not necessarily desirable. The lack of dissident unity makes them prone to targeting by Iranian security forces.[26 In a word Ed used the Tactics, Techniques and Procedures outlined in this document to bring about regime change in the United States through a conspiracy of Patriots. He unified a network of dissidents and coordianted the leakage of corruption, violation of Civil Rights and the limits the Constitution placed on a President to bring about regime change. What they are missing in Iran is a man of the same caliber with the skills to coordiante the movement of pieces on the great board, through the media, contacts and the internet under the watchful eyes of the security services. To unify all the groups will take a man above men. To accomplish that he also needs an outside group to coordinate with in the great game. Sometime you have to make do with budgetary constraints. Look at what Ed did with a home computer. He matched the best of the world in terms of predictions from a desktop PC & Laptop and charted earth's gravitational field before NASA. Shah’s son urges action, not rhetoric, on Iran (Reuters) 30 May 2006 http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2006/May /middleeast_May672.xml§ion=middleeast&col= One would think the Iranian dissidents could learn a lesson from that. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/21/1518247 === What matters is a lot of people who know the situation well, well, believe it's still very much on the table. On the other hand, there are other people equally as skeptical about this administration, how it makes decisions, that say -- people I talk with that say, the reality of today, the collapse of Iraq, the weakened political position of the President, the fact that the republicans are -- many leading republicans are not only against the current policy, but very worried about ‘08, will mitigate against something, that at this point seems to unnecessary as bombing Iran without talking to them. === If the interest of the Republican Party outweighs that of the ‘Armament Industry’ we could hope that there would be no attack immediately. Could we hope that the ‘Armament Industry’ would like to carry the population along? After all the ‘Armament Industry’ needs the best and brilliant minds to do R&D for them. Could we hope? | ||
| Ivan |
Heir apparent to Iran's Monarchy gives reasonable advice to US. Here is Pahlavi's perspective on the Iranian bomb: "Pahlavi, who trained in the United States as a jet fighter pilot, said Iran has the right to nuclear technology, but not to threaten other nations with it.I have to agree with him, that the US and other world powers should talk to Iran, but not necessarily to its Supreme Ayatollah regime, but to the people of Iran who desire freedom and democracy. Technology in the hands of responsible and reasonable people is not a threat, but in the hands of religious fanatics is a threat. If as Pahlavi says, that Iran is behind this current world jihadi phenomenon, which is only partly true since Saudi Arabia is in there too, not to mention the emotional sentiments of Palestinians and the general Muslim public from Africa to Indonesia who are manipulated by their religious masters, then the dethroning of Ayatollahood in Iran is an important step towards world peace. In a recent survey, there is popular support in Iran and the world for a constitutional monarchy in Iran. Perhaps this form of government, with respect for human rights of men and women in Iran, is the better suited solution than a democratic secular constitutional government. Every people should choose the form of government that best suits their cultural sentiments, as long as these governments protect them in their right as free human beings equally, both men and women, who are free from coercion, whether that of the mullahs or corruption of government. If the Iranian people can pull off this change of regime in their own country, there would be no reason for war. In fact, the world peace would be one step closer to reality, even if Iranian scientists and engineers developed nuclear energy and weapons. But these same technologies in the hands of religious cultist thugs is a danger to the whole world. There is a lot riding on Iran at this time, not just for people of Iran, but for all of us. Ivan | ||
| ANON |
Poisoned Russian implicates Putin before death Kremlin denies charge of former KGB agent as ‘nothing but nonsense’ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15863307/ The Department of Veteran's Affairs, Christian Private Hospitals and best private doctors in the world threw everything in they had in the way conventional and experimental medicine to save my life and rebalance my brain chemestry after the KGB and Cuban DGI poisoned me to take me out of the great game of spy versed spy. In all things there is the truth and lies. In this age of plausable denial ex KGB agents have sold their souls to the Kremlin to take care of problems in a way that can not be traced back to Moscow. With access to hightech poisons they make problems go away. With no other alternative I turned to the Churches and built a network. This world of betrayal, poison and espionage is the world I have lived in for 24 years. As he went into the darkness Alexander Litvinenko glimpse the truth. I wish him well and when it is my time to pass will look him in the eye and raise a glass to his courage. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
A spy comes in from the cold The retired director of MI5 publishes her first novel http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0308/p15s01-bogn.html It was the head of a small contingent of MI5, Britain's domestic intelligence service, who tapped Ms. Rimington. He enlisted her to become his clerk-typist; never mind that she was trained as a historical archivist and didn't know how to type. Her "real" job, it turns out, was to attend as many of these meet-and-greet soirees as possible and attempt to identify other countries' spies for her compatriots. Thus began a lengthy career, during which Rimington worked her way up through MI5's counterespionage, countersubversion, and counterterrorism units to become the first female director of MI5, and the first to be publicly named. Just what network has been built in the shadows of Internet? The Former director of MI5 did this stuff under the cover of being a clerk typist. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Alliance of Patriots |
http://www.cnn.com/ A former Russian spy who died Thursday in London was poisoned by radiation, Britain's Health Protection Agency said, and experts are searching for "residual radioactive material" at a number of locations he may have visited. Alliance of Patriots In the shadows we observe, report and track. In the daylight we teach, work and love. We are a legion and we will not be bowed by threat of poison, blackmail or loss of jobs. We fight to free mankind from abominations such as this. Our ancestors founded this nation and wrote its' constitution. For us the words, "Give me liberty or death" still echo in our ears. Alliance of Patriots | ||
| Anon |
Polonium-210 one of world's rarest elements http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/11/24/uk.spy.polonium.ap/index.html The fact that terrorists, former KGB and others, are at large with sophisticated poisons, to include radioactive isotopes to silience peaceful opposition to dictatorships is begining to send shock waves through the world intelligence communites. Great Brittian has mobilized its COBRA team which is its top-level Cabinet team that gathers for civil emergencies. The fact that traces of this poison have been found in a hotel sushi bar, means that others have been exposed to traces of Polonium-210 as well. Great Britton and the world now know what has fallen into the hands of ex-KGB operatives coupled to the Russian Mob. When I told them that I had been poisoned with a neurotoxin by the KGB and DGI they laughed and said I was paranoid. Then the blood tests came back from Duke University and they stopped laughing. Men and women armed with radioactive poisons have struck in the heart of Great Britton and now the cold fear of what they have done is spreading across the world. As I look at the tremor in my left hand and upon the gravity map produced by the Europeans, you begin to understand what we are faced with in this new age and what I fought to expose. We will never bow to this even if it means we go to our graves poisoned by radiation. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Polonium http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/intro/polonium.htm The purpose of the District's Manhattan Project was to build an atomic bomb. Polonium-210 was vital to this program, because it was to be used in a neutron source that would ensure initiation of a chain reaction. An initiator is a device that produces a timed burst of neutrons to initiate a fission chain reaction in a nuclear weapon. Initiators made of polonium-210 and beryllium were located at the center of the fissile cores of early atomic weapons. The highly radioactive isotope of Polonium (Po-210) is a strong alpha emitter. Beryllium will absorb alphas and emit neutrons. This isotope of polonium has a half life of almost 140 days, and a neutron initiator using this material needs to have the polonium, which is generated in a nuclear reactor, to be replaced frequently. To supply the initiation pulse of neutrons at the right time, the polonium and the beryllium need to be kept apart until the appropriate moment and then thoroughly and rapidly mixed by the implosion of the weapon. Access to Polonium-210 also implies access to nuclear weapons development technology. Now we know why GB's COBRA Team has been activated Friendly Ghost | ||
| Anon |
Yes Friendly Ghost, Access to Polonium-210 does mean that whoever did this had access to nuclear weapons development technology and radioactive material production facilities. Polonium-210 has a very short half life to put this plan in motion meant that it was planned and coordinated and timed very carefully. I also note that this poisoning of the EX-KGB, FSB officer comes during the anniversery period of the Russian Revolution, the November Revolution when using western calendars. The KGB diehards and communists decided to make him an example of what they can do. They made a statement about the fall of the Soviet Union with him and the fact they are still players in the great game. A settling of old scores from the Cold War. Now you know part of the truth about the monsters that walk in the shadows and what they are armed with. This goes back to the days of PANAM 103 and Operations Cactus Coup and Kogi Campaign. The Soviet's Operation Ryan and the fall of the Berlin wall and the Conrad Spy Ring and the Nuclear Defense secrets of NATO. Ed | ||
| Ivan |
Iran gets Russian missiles. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378474759&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull The Great Game continues, with Russian made surface to air missiles, as described: "Russian officials say that the missiles are purely defensive weapons with a limited range. According to the Interfax news agency, the Tor-M1 system can identify up to 48 targets and fire at two targets simultaneously at a height of up to 6,000 meters (20,000 feet)." Exactly what are these Iranian missiles supposed to shoot down? Not commercial airliners passing over their air-space, I hope. Not cruise missiles, these could wipe out huge target areas coming in from 'under the radar' low altitudes at supersonic speeds? Or Minuteman ICBM missiles, dropping in from near space? Not really sure what Iran has in mind for these missiles, except other than for show of force, to cover their airspace against military fighter jets? I suspect the technology is already obsolete, if that is so. These procured missiles appear to be SAMs. | ||
| Anon |
It has taken me the better part of a decade to put the pieces together of the man that ordered my assassination and poisoning. I have demonstrated the reason for it and one of the reasons PANAM 103 was destroyed with my skill as a code breaker and analyst. Now you know why the Israel Mossad and my family have thrown a security network around me. Below you will begin to see indicators of how the mind of the ex-director chairman of the KGB Kryuchkov functions. He and his network ex-agents and contacts orbit around Putin and conduct operations on behalf of what they see as the interests of Russia. A shadow KGB with global reach funded by Russian mob money and arms sales. http://www.cdi.org/russia/Johnson/6325-11.cfm In January, when he (Putin) held a Kremlin celebration of Vladimir I. Lenin's founding of the Soviet security services, Kryuchkov sat in the first row. This ties the date of the Polonium-210 poisoning to Kryuchkov and the aniversery of the November Revolution. http://www.blythe.org/Intelligence/readme/picadilly At the KGB Center, Golubev visited the secret research Laboratory No. 12, which was a part of the KGB Operational Technical Support Directorate. Laboratory No. 12 was referred to in intelligence circles as the "Chamber," or "Kamera." KGB General Viktor Chebrikov, Andropov's closest subordinate in the KGB, was then the Director of the "Chamber." The "Chamber" developed, among many technical devices, chemical substances used to incapacitate political enemies and antidotes to these substances, if Western intelligence agencies used them against KGB agents. For example, Laboratory No. 12 successfully developed the "spray gun" and poison used to kill two Ukrainian Nationalist anti-Soviet activists in Munich in the 1950s: Ivan Rebet and Stefan Bandera. Golubev received instructions in the "Chamber," and the next week he flew to Sofia with Ivan Surov. Surov's job was to give the Bulgarian Intelligence Service practical instruction in the use of special poisons, which could not be traced after the victim's death. Golubev and Surov discussed with the Bulgarians intelligence officers the various options of killing Markov. They worked out one plan to use a poison that could be surreptitiously dissolved in tea, coffee, any liquid that Markov might drink. This ties the method and means to Kryuchkov, as to his pattern and approach to taking care of problems. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Damned if you do; damned if you don’t. http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/focusoniraq/2006/No vember/focusoniraq_November196.xml§ion=focusoniraq === As Vice President Dick Cheney took off on a trip to Saudi Arabia on Friday, the White House said there would be no change to Bush’s planned summit with Maliki even as a top Shia cleric said he would pull his faction out of the Baghdad government if the meeting takes place. === Maliki’s government is in trouble whether he meets Commander-in-Chief Bush or not. If he does meet Bush, Sadr could cause the collapse of the government by withdrawing his support as threatened. If Maliki does not travel to Jordan he runs the risk of losing US protection and thus his stay on earth itself could become tenuous. If his government is going to fail either by withdrawal or by his own eventual elimination, Maliki stands a better chance of survival and show of independence from USA by finding a last minute excuse to avoid the travel out of Baghdad. Are we prepared for that eventuality? Do we have plans for the Commander-in-Chief to visit any other nearby location in case it turns out that Maliki cannot travel after Air Force One is midway over the Atlantic? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/25/world/europe/25spy.html?hp&ex=1164430800&en=cc 06cf9a7758c5ff&ei=5094&partner=homepage === Scientists were astounded at the use of the rare and hard-to-produce substance, polonium 210, which is dangerous when breathed, injected or ingested. === http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3tV3IYiiEJgJ:periodic.lanl.gov/elements/84. html+polonium&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5&lr=lang_en === Polonium, also called Radium F, was the first element discovered by Mme. Curie in 1898 while seeking the cause of radioactivity of pitchblend from Joachimsthal, Bohemia. … In 1934, scientists discovered that when they bombarded natural bismuth (209Bi) with neurons, 210Bi, the parent of polonium, was obtained. Milligram amounts of polonium may now be prepared this way, by using the high neutron fluxes of nuclear reactors. Polonium is available commercially on special order from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory. === So getting Polonium need not involve Intelligence agencies. Any individual permitted to make the special order to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory could receive the same. We have posted this information so that the search for the culprit of recent use of Polonium is open to consider all the enemies of the deceased rather than his political enemies alone. Concentrating on the political enemies alone risks large scale bloodshed, which we hope to avoid. | ||
| Ivan |
Sadr is playing hard ball; it's a dog fight.
Your assessment is right, Sadr by refusing to cooperate with Maliki is essentially challenging his office of state. This is a direct threat to Maliki's right to rule over Iraq. Like any two chiefs who challenge each other in battle, it is now up to Maliki, a Kurd, to put Sadr, a Shia, in his place, since the Iraqi Prime Minister's authority as executive of his nation is put to test. Meeting Bush is not a lesser chief's call, but the Prime Minister's, and if challenged by a lesser chief, no matter how bloody violent his internal army, the executive must repulse this challenge. Once again, it is an internal 'dog fight' and the bigger dog must win. If Sadr is allowed to win, then Maliki's authority is not only weakened, but in fact nulled by the lesser dog, which now becomes top dog. In effect, Bush's visit should not change its agenda, because it is a test of authority as to who is in charge in Iraq. Is it Maliki, or is it Sadr? How Maliki handles this challenge to his executive authority, how he rounds up his support from all the members of his congress and advisors, and how the people who elected him into office support him, will determine whether or not he is truly Prime Minister, or a failed leader. We shall see. This is a moment of truth for Iraq. Ivan | ||
| Ivan |
Is Lebanon ready for a military coup? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6182800.stm BBC News: Lebanon death 'may herald coup' It looks like the elected government there is under attack. The country, once 90% Christian, is now only 40% Christian, 60% Muslim, which means it's on its way to Sharia government. Only a military coup by Christian commanders could stem the tide. Can it happen? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Only a military coup by Christian commanders could stem the tide. Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 10:29 am: Ivan Would that not lead to a civil war in Lebanon? | ||
| Anon |
I concur with your assessments of the situation in Lebanon and Iraq. What we need to realize is that the Muslim population of Lebanon is split between Sunni and Shia Muslims and that a defacto alliance of Sunni and Christians could turn the tide in Lebenon. At present the United States is attempting to build a firebreak against Shia extremists (Iran, Hezzbola and Hamas) by attempting to form a Sunni alliance of Muslim states, Egypt, Morroco, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan and Turkey to counter Iran's rise to Power. What has been put on the table according to open source reporting is this. 1. Increased aid in terms of military and economic assistance. 2. Increased Intelligence Sharing 3. Increased effort to resolve the Palistinian Situation with aid being funneled from the Sunni States to the PLO faction, not Hamas. This would include assistance to the PLO supporing Palestinian populations outside of the West bank and Gaza. Overtures to the Europeans on this issue are being made. As part of his trip to Jordan President Bush intends to give the PLO faction residing in Jordan a tacit nod of support in their battle to wrest control of the Palestinian government from Hamas. 4. Expansion of The United States Ballistic Missile Defense to the Sunni Alliance. 5. Decreased calls for demoncratic reforms in the Sunni States. Over all its a very pragmatic approach to solving the situation. One senses the guiding hand of James Baker and others behind this initiative. As to Iraq, according to my sources inside the Pentagon, planning has started to address the worse case situation. This includes fragmentation of Iraq and full blown Civil war. As part of this effort Guaranties of safety for the Sunni and Kurdish populations are being made in the event the country fragments. Ed | ||
| Anon |
With regards to the Polonium-210 we need to also take a look at Russian Politics. Putin, unless he changes the constitution of Russia, must leave office in 2008. One must remember that the Russian's are masters of the Great Game and that the KGB has often been the King Maker in Russian Politics. Kryuchkov, has long been used to making things happen behind the scenes. It could very well be that this use of Polonium 210 was designed to ensure that Putin does not attempt to change the constitution and bows out in 2008. As Churchhill said the Russian are an enigma wraped in a puzzle and Kryuchkov has spent decades weaving webs and playing deep games to advance his interests. One would think that given this that this could have been a message from the Old Guard of the KGB that they are still a force to be reckoned with. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Some Russians Believe New “Putsch” Could Happen August 22, 2005 Polling Data This Aug. 19 marks the fourteenth anniversary of the unsuccessful coup attempt in the Soviet Union. In your opinion, is the recurrence of such events possible in modern-day Russia? Quite possible 25.6% Somewhat possible 22.9% Somewhat not possible 24.4% Not possible 18.4% Don’t know 8.7% Within Russia they play games for power. Russia sits on the world's largest reserves of natural gas and has the world's sixth largest reserves of oil. I fought in Korea and remember the days of the KGB. IN flexing its muscle the old guard of the KGB wields influence from behind the scenes making or breaking presidents. Remember what Ed did in coordinating the downfall of the Republicans. Now the former director of the KGB makes his move, unlike Ed he uses radioactive poison to make a point. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Anon |
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/missile/saudi.htm Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia has an inventory of Chinese made CSS-2 missiles. they are currently targeted on Iranian population centers. Pakistan has the nuclear warheads for the missiles and in the event that Iran goes Nuclear Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are prepared to extend the nuclear umbrella to Saudi Arabia. At present Saudi Arabia has enought nuclear capable missiles to destroy all Iranian population centers. All they lack is the nuclear warheads for the missiles. AS the Middle east fragments, the battle lines of the next phase of the conflict are being drawn. Ed | ||
| Anon Anon |
From the ashes of the Cold War two great minds have met via the Internet. Kryuchkov and Major Edward Chesky. At 30 years old Ed was recognized for creation of new encryption systems, breaking of codes, reconstruction of Soviet War plans with nothing but a code breaker's plastic ruler and his mind. At 40 years he trisected the angle and solved Al Hazen's Billiard Problem with a child compass and ruler despite brain damage from a systemic poison given him by the KGB & Cuban DGI using the Quadratrix of Hippias. He then charted the Earth's gravity field using laptops, PCs and univeristy computers. Now Kryuchkov sends him a message in the clear he can understand. He kills a man that looks like Ed, shares similar characteristics, aims and goals with a radioactive isotope that is used as the hear of a trigger of an atomic bomb. In doing so he confuses the issue with disinformation, using the fallout from the poisoning to advance a agenda he knows. Setting the conditions for a post Putin take over of government and showing the people of Russia the KGB still has a long arm. A interesting match Anon Anon | ||
| Ed |
Thanks Anon Anon I am in the middle of making dinner and only have a few momments to spend on this. From the old day of the Cold War I got to know Kryuchkov's work very well. In executing this mission he has advanced support in Russia against the critics of the regime by using a method of execution that leaves many questions as to why, who and how. The simple answer is to blame Putin. But I looked at his response, his characteristics, poise and the rest and feel he was in the dark on this one. It hurts him as well as advances the power and myth surrounding state security in Russia today. From the storm of conflicting opinions over this I see the subtle hand of Kryuchkov at work. Like every craftsman each has his own signiture and leaves it when he works. It is a suble signiture but one I know well. Like the brush strokes of a painter. This killing sends ripples around the world like a rock in the pond until they lap up on the shore by my feet. For the FBI, CIA MOSSAD, MI5/6 and NSA my services are at your disposal once again should you call or accept my resume. This was a lesson in what is possible with hope and the right medications. Major Edward Anthony Peter Chesky, United States Army, Military Intelligence Corps (RET) The Islamics like to choose names that have meaning. For the Record my name given to me by my parents and the Church means the following The boy's name Edward is pronounced ED-werd. It is of Old English origin, and its meaning is "wealth protector." Used in the royal family by kings of England (including the saint Edward the the Confessor) An·tho·ny, Saint. a.d. 250?-350? Egyptian ascetic monk considered to be the founder of Christian monasticism and is known for his resistance to the wiles of the devil. The name origin and meaning of Peter Name: Peter Gender: (Male) Origin: Latin Meaning: Rock, stone | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15894867/page/2/ Litvinenko alleged that a Russian Foreign Intelligence Service chief previously stationed in London had been assigned by Moscow to watch him, Britain's Sunday Times newspaper reported Litvinenko was recruited into the Soviet-era KGB and also worked for its successor, the Federal Security Service, or FSB. He was later promoted to a specialist counterterrorism and organized crime unit. After the fall of communism, he said his directive was to recruit powerful businessmen who could stimulate an economic boom, and to hire assassins. "Our department worked on the so-called problem principle — the government had a problem and we had simply to deal with it," Litvinenko said in interviews. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15896932/ BAGHDAD, Nov. 25 - In the aftermath of one of the deadliest spasms of violence, a new level of fear and foreboding has gripped Baghdad, fueled in part by sectarian text messages and Internet sites, that is deepening tensions in an already divided capital. As has previously been said sites like this are important in the fight against terror. Cell phones linked to internet sites are being used by the Jihadists to bring about civil war in Iraq Friendly Ghost | ||
| Ivan |
Maliki is responding to Sadr's challenge: Iraqi leader attacks politicians http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6185732.stm This is a followup on the post above: It's a dog fight. http://www.humancafe.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=88&post=2509#POST2509 We shall see how this unfolds, whether Prime Minister Maliki will consolidate support against Sadr's challenge, or capitulate to Sadr's 'state within a state' seige of Baghdad with his powerful militas. Remember Maliki was elected, Sadr was not. This is a test of Iraq's democratic government. How fast can it slide into Sharia law? We shall see, but then our troops are no longer needed there, their problem. | ||
| Anon |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15894867/ The ex-spy was moved to intensive care last week after his hair fell out, his throat became swollen, and his immune and nervous systems suffered severe damage. While I lay there as army doctors in over their heads botched a spinal tap. I tried to tell them I had been poisoned with the systemic poison that damaged my central and peripheral nervous system as well as my immune system. In my case it was a nerve agent derivative. The killers learned from the failure on me and decided to use something more lethal. http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1213/p01s02-woeu.htm KGB legacy of poison politics Doctors confirmed that dioxin poisoned Ukraine's Yushchenko Ed | ||
| Ivan |
This is the scary part, Ed: ""This case of poisoning Yushchenko is not an isolated one at all," says Andrei Piontkovsky, head of the Center for Strategic Studies in Moscow. "This practice was routine for the KGB in Soviet times, and I don't think their successors have higher moral standards."" They stoop so low in their world games, so not to be tursted even now. The KGB morphed into Russia's new spy agencies, so I hope our intelligence services are up to the challenge. Russia wants Mid East oil, and I think that will be their Great Game for sometime to come. That's why they cosy up to Iran, to have advantage once all hell breaks loose with the Alliance pull out. So sad to see this happening, but I always thought the easy part was the toppling of Saddam, and the hard part would be nation building in Iraq. So far, it appears a failure, so the people who sided with democracy will pay with their blood. What a tragedy for all the Iraqis who had hope. Now it is crushed, and the likes of Sadr will hold the reigns of power, dancing to Iranian drums of war, with Russia providing 'Greek chorus'. Paul Wolfowitz and Bush really mesed up bad. Ivan | ||
| Ivan |
Ghost, it seems there are already calls for withdrawal from Iraq. http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/26/hagel.iraq/index.html Hagel: U.S. should pullout of 'mismanaged' Iraq I feel sorry for the troops who must remain behind while their buddies are pulling out. After four years of occupation (the war ended in days, the rest was trying to nation build) it is time to cut loose. The Iraqis must now manage to govern themselves, put out the Jihad going on between their factions, and stand on their own. Let's see how long it takes for them to go all the way back to the 7th century. It'll take probably less than a year. You can bring democracy to a people, but you cannot force them to drink democracy. It took centuries for these ideals to develop in Europe, and we fought wars over our freedoms too, but the Middle East is not ready. Ivan | ||
| Naive |
As I have said, their religious development is about 600 years behind Christianity. They must experience all the fits and starts, in order to learn their place in the world. Unfortunately new military technology that was not available 600 years ago is available for them now.  Next time our leaders will know better than to push the country into military conflict for selfish or unthought out purposes. This would be the ideal time for the government to seek the public's cooperation in ending oil dependence. But alas our leadership is about 600 years in the dark ages too. Naive | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=10&ItemID=11493 === France has warned Israel that should it initiate a war with Iran it would create "a total disaster" for the entire world". Oil prices would rise, the entire Arab world would unite behind the Iranians, and Israel would be targeted but so would other nations. Even more important, Israeli strategists admit that Iranian nuclear weapons would only create a stable deterrent relationship between the two nations, and are not an "existential threat." === http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=12553 === Citing the bloody massacre carried out recently by the Israeli forces, in which 18 Palestinian civilians were killed, Zapatero said: "We cannot remain impassive in the face of the horror that continues to unfold before our eyes. Violence has reached a level of deterioration that requires determined, urgent action by the international community." "Peace between Israel and the Palestinians means to a large extent peace on the international scene," he added, according to BBC News. === It might be true that some powers have warned Israel not to initiate a war with Iran. How about Israeli strategists thinking that a nuclear Iran would result in a stable deterrent relationship? I would like to add that a search in Google News on “stable deterrent” yielded just one link, the first link given above. However I would be happy if a mini cold war in the Middle East would give peace. | ||
| Anon |
Mohideen, What James Baker and a number of allies appeare to be trying to create in the Middle East is a "Mini Cold War" between a Sunni Alliance and Iran and its supporters. With the whole region on the brink of instability, all indicators are that the Western Powers are trying to bring about a political framework that mirrors the Cold War. George Bush had visions that he could bring change to the entire Middle East and with the helping of the NEOCONs has just about set the entire region on fire. The Islamic Cold War battlefield that is shaping up is based on my assessment as follows Sunni Alliance (Middle East Treaty Organization (METO)) Saudi Arabia (Nuclear Possible) Egypt Jordan Morroco UAE Paksitan (Nuclear Confirmed) Turkey Israel (Supportive of Sunni Alliance, No Direct Relationship, Non-Aggression Pact Possible) Shitte Alliance Iran (Nuclear Possible) Syria Iraq (Possible Member) Lebenon (Possible Member) Sudan Somallia (Possible Member) With the way things are going this appears to be the reality that is shaping up in the Middle East with the border of the New Cold War running roughly along the Euphrates River out through the Persian Gulf. Ed | ||
| Anon |
Clark sees Cold War as blueprint for Middle East strategy http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/11/14/clark_sees_cold_war_as_blu eprint_for_middle_east_strategy/ http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20061101faessay85601/richard-n-haass/the-new-middl e-east.html Summary: The age of U.S. dominance in the Middle East has ended and a new era in the modern history of the region has begun. It will be shaped by new actors and new forces competing for influence, and to master it, Washington will have to rely more on diplomacy than on military might. Richard N. Haass is President of the Council on Foreign Relations The above two articles provide data on the environment and type of policy we need to adopt to the Middle East Having served under Clark I understand his brillence at situation assessment and my thoughts on this subject mirror his own. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aijqBsG4xNeo&refer=home === The three people were among more than 450 people who called a National Health Service Direct helpline, at +44-845-4647, in response to the Litvinenko case, a spokeswoman for the agency said today in a telephone interview. Of the callers, 18 were initially forwarded for further scrutiny, and a decision was made to test three of them, she said. She declined to further identify the people or the clinic where they will be tested. ``A monitoring program has started for the patient's family and others who may be at risk,'' the National Health Service said in an undated statement on its Web site. Litvinenko had one son with his wife, Marina. === Any weapon when used for the first time looks invincible: so also polonium 210 poisoning. Litvinenko died of heart attack rather than any other organ failure as all polonium 210 consumed by him would have passed through the heart at least once every heart beat. Further as the polonium 210 was absorbed by the kidney and other organs resulting in decrease in the concentration of polonium 210 in blood, the other organs get spared, whereas all the remaining polonium 210 passes through the heart. Thus the heart suffers the maximum and continuous damage due to radiation poisoning. I believe at this point in time there is no medicine for polonium poisoning. May I suggest a treatment as there is no other treatment? The earlier the radioactive poison gets out of the body the lesser the damage. With reduced damage the body’s own recuperative powers could restore health. So the suggestion is to secrete out the polonium 210 as soon as possible. The kidney and the large intestine have the power to excrete waste products. So create those conditions that increase the production of waste products. Create controlled conditions leading to loose motion and excess urine production. Along with the waste products, those white blood cells that attach to polonium 210 particles also would be removed. Monitor the white blood cell count and give medicine to maintain their level in blood. Let us hope that flushing out the polonium 210 helps in survival. | ||
| Ivan |
On polonium 210, would a full blood replacement transfusion help, if caught early enough? I don't know, since I'm not a medical doctor, but I agree with Mohideen, that the poison must be excreted from the body as soon as it is suspected. Though, how long before the poison already started to do its evil work? | ||
| Ivan |
RE Gen. Clark's assessment of Middle East, US Army Lt.-Col. Ralph Peters has a different perspective: CNN Exposes Islamic Incitement http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=116291 Here's his view: "U.S. Army Lt.-Col. Ralph Peters sums up, "You've got religious faith, primal hatred and the promise of ecstasy combined... What a powerful, powerful incentive to kill yourself and be a martyr to your family, to your friends, to your civilization, to your god."" This is after CNN commentator's: " Apparently-genuine video clips are shown of Moslem terrorists setting out on suicide-bombing missions, with background commentary emphasizing such attacks as "the ultimate smart bomb," "the most perfect precision weapon of our time," and "the apotheosis of hatred."" This is the problem, that we are witnessing a controlled media reporting "apotheosis of hatred" to the world, perhaps unaware of how it is manipulated to evoke sympathy and compassion from the world for suicide bombers, with as bloody and colorful carnage they can muster. Perhaps this video puts it in better perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PWIK8YTZS8&eurl= The new weapon by Islamic extremists is the media? Cheering crowds of "Death to Israel, death to America!" can be a powerful weapon, to make the good people of the world capitulate to the fanatics demands. However, this is a two edged sword. What Islamic extremists, using their religion to justify their hatred against the free West, do not understand is that our compassion is a voluntary thing. We can choose to be compassionate, but it is not necessarily in our nature to be compassionate. So if we see the death and destruction self-inflicted by Islamic radicals, we may not choose to be compassionate, which is what their media campaign is counting on. Instead, we may voluntarily turn off our compassion and instead take pleasure is seeing their own self destruction. I don't think they factored that in. But what I'm seeing more and more, even from the politically correct media, is that they are turning their backs on the plight and suffering, because it is self-inflicted wounds. The atrocities are being reported as just another day in Iraq, for example, where 200 people died in suicide bombings, so the compassion is beginning to run dry. More than 50% of the American public now thinks there is something terribly wrong with the "religion of peace" to cause such atrocities. Anyone who knows history knows that such atrocities, genocidal killings are not new to our human scene. In fact, Stalin and Mao may have been masters are it. But there is slowly emerging awareness of atrocities by the Young Turks, something Turkey remains in denial about, that large numbers of Christians, Greeks, Assyrians, Armenians, were killed at the beginning of the last century. Whether through starvation or outright murder, decapitation, and for the children often enslavement, where young boys and girls were taken from their parents to become slaves (imagine your children taken into slavery),these are becoming better known. So sympathies for the Arab extremist cause is beginning to dry up, and we're becoming rather dry eyed about their self inflicted suicidal killings. Too bad. As the Pope is about to face Turkey, and possibly become martyred for history, something we no doubt must assume he is totally aware, we may be facing a whole new chapter in Earth's history, where our Christian compassions of victims of war, especially for victims of self-inflicted casualties of war, may suddenly change into a macabre fascination instead. How many can they kill now? We will be watching TV and scour the press for the latest statistics of death, to see how many they had killed, not for pity but more for its entertainment value. Once that happens, the media stops being a tool of Jihad. Just like children pulling wings off flies to watch them die, we too can be unbelievably cruel for the plights of other human beings, especially if we figure out they are doing it to themselves, and pity turns into fascination. It becomes enterntainment to watch the suicidals commit crimes against their own. Here are some reference pages on the tragic atrocities committed by the Turks against their Christian populations, these must not be forgotten: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greek_Genocide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Genocide With the Pope leaving for Turkey tomorrow, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6187346.stm , the world will be watching. And if he dies, killed by some crazed Jihadi? This could be a whole new chapter of Earth's history... We shall see. Let's pull out of Iraq, no more Alliance troops there, no more Americans, Britons, Australians, and all, but leave it to themselves. And then watch the fun. We can grin with grim satisfaction over the killings, they're doing it to themselves. Ivan | ||
| Le Chef |
Good Luck Pope BXVI, God be with you.  Say a prayer for the world in St. Sophia, to prove Islam is peaceful. Le Chef | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.arabamericannews.com/newsarticle.php?articleid=6902 === Today's Iran does not look like a nation preparing for war. It looks like a nation hard at work trying to re-build itself and chart a path towards modernity. === Could the above be communicated to Israel that a future Iran under non-Mullahs is not a threat? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/November_2006/0611010.html === PRESIDENT GEORGE W. Bush is coming under enormous pressure from Israel—and from Israel’s neoconservative friends inside and outside the U.S. administration—to harden still further his stance toward Iran. They want the American president to commit himself to bombing Iran if it does not give up its program of uranium enrichment—and to issue a clear ultimatum to Tehran that he is prepared to do so. === Let us hope that the non-neocon part of the Republican Party avoids the catastrophe of extending the war to Iran and further straining the Armed Forces. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
1958393%2C00.html,http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1958393,00.html === In his most important policy speech since the Lebanon war, Mr Olmert said if the Palestinians halted violence and recognised Israel, there could be negotiations that culminated in the creation of a Palestinian state and an Israeli withdrawal from some of the occupied West Bank. === The Palestinians have indeed halted violence. Would they recognize Israel inside the Arabian Peninsula and violate their religion? I doubt. They might if Israel calls for the conversion of the Suez Canal to Suez Lake with transfer ports on both ends to facilitate the shorter ship route with a slightly increased delay and cost due to unloading and reloading of ships. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.playfuls.com/news_10_4182-ANALYSIS-Bushs-Success-Hinges-On-Adopting-N ew-Mideast-Approach.html === "I believe the ceasefire announced by Israel and its readiness to exchange Palestinians prisoners for a captured Israeli soldier have been the outcome of a pressure by Bush, who seeks to improve his notorious record in the region," he said. This viewpoint was shared by director of the Amman-based al-Quds Centre for Political Studies, Oraib Rentawi, who described Olmert's overtures to the Palestinians as a "small present he extends to Bush. "However, we view Olmert's move a trap burdened with several pre- conditions that make it unacceptable to the Palestinians and Arabs and profoundly undermine its seriousness and credibility," Rentawi told dpa. === | ||
| Ivan |
Wouldn't it make more sense to pull out troops from Iraq first, since the 'nation building' there is unstable? In fact I'd call it failure, the people of Iraq are just not ready for a modern state of government. Let them live in fear and persecution some more, and maybe try again in 50 years. As far as Iran is concerned, they bragged they'll be fully nuclear by March next year, so we should be out of Iraq by March and ready to tackle the Iran problem. However, this time, rather than just take over Tehran and then bumbling what to do next, we had better be well allied with the resistance to theocratic rule within Iran, and help the people set up a government they will fight to preserve. My suggestion is don't let someone like Paul Wolfowitz handle this, rather rely on 'think tank' scholars like Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer, people who have a thorough understanding of the coercive force of mullahs, and unseat them. Then the people of Iran have a reasonable shot at living in a modern state based on freedom. Ivan | ||
| Ivan |
About Israel and Hamas.
The link doesn't work, but the message is clear enough, that Hamas will recognize Israel. However, remember, 'war is deceit' as taught by your prophet Mohammed, so I would not rush to agree that indeed they will recognize Israel. If Olmert finds this acceptable, then he is a fool. Israel should assume total enmity from the Palestinian Arabs at all times, and not withdraw from any lands they control. The religion part is only from their side, since force of arms wins the argument, and Israel has the force. On the other side, we only have 'deceit' so not to be trusted unless they have something to offer we can hold hostage. At this point, they failed to return the captured Israeli soldiers, so all conversation is moot, and nothing to offer. Until they do so, they are not to be trusted under any circumstance, since they lie. There is no argument here, nor agreement of any kind, but deceit as told by their prophet Mohammed. Live with it... or blow up... whatever. Don't believe them, they are not good for their word. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/29/AR2006112900324_ 2.html === Among other things, the five-page document, which the Times posted on its Web site Tuesday night, suggested that Maliki should be pressured to distance himself from Sadr, a powerful anti-American Shiite cleric, and "bring to justice" figures in Sadr's militia who "do not eschew violence". The memo said Maliki should also be pushed to shake up his cabinet to include more nonsectarian technocrats; expand the Iraqi army; and declare the immediate suspension of Iraqi police units suspected of involvement in sectarian conflict. === So Sadr is not challenging Maliki; he is indeed challenging Bush. If Maliki is going to listen to Bush and then dump Sadr, it is better for Sadr to dump Maliki before he even meets Bush. Now that Sadr supporters have suspended their participation in the Iraqi government, Bush has to decide whether to remove Sadr from government and thus plunge Maliki’s government into chaos or let Sadr remain with the government and placate Sadr to get peace inside Iraq. Maliki is possibly a figurehead, the real head is possibly Sadr. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Israel should assume total enmity from the Palestinian Arabs at all times, and not withdraw from any lands they control. Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 07:24 pm: Ivan Before the Hezbollah – Israel war, Israel was invincible. In that war, the Israel technology did not measure up to the short range rocket fire; they overcame midrange rockets but not short range. In the West Bank the security wall offers security from the suicide bomber; not from short range rockets. At this moment the settlements on the Israeli side of the security wall cannot be protected unless and until the Palestinians are moved away from the security wall by the distance traveled by the short range rockets. I believe that is not possible. So Olmert has no choice but to believe the Palestinians and hope that the Palestinians being different from the Iranians would keep their word. Incidentally so far Hamas has kept its word. Deceit was never a part of mainstream Islam; it was practiced by the leaders of the current Mullahs in Iran after the death of Ali, Allah be pleased with him, the fourth Caliph and son-in-law of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Please do not club all Muslims together with respect to deceit. We do not resort to deceit; we don’t need to. | ||
| Ivan |
Couldn't agree with you more. If there are those in Islam who practice deceit, it paints a bad image of the whole faith. It is up to Muslims to rid themselves of those (shaitan inspired) deceivers, or the whole faith suffers. Same as ridding itself of coercions, suicide violence, jihad violence, crimes against women, etc., all these reflect on the faith and puts it in a bad light. What have Muslims done to rid themselves of these plagues? For now, the world sees Islam as "guilty by association" for tolerating such a bad crowd in your midst. Ivan | ||
| Ivan |
DEBKAfile: Saudi Arabia will intervene to save Sunni Muslims once US begins Iraq pullout http://ummahnewslinks.com/2006/11/29/debkafile-saudi-arabia-will-intervene-to-sa ve-sunni-muslims-once-us-begins-iraq-pullout.aspx I think this is the real story about what's happening in Iraq. Forget Bush or Maliki. Here's where it's going. The rest is talk. Sadr will be margenilized when US pulls out. My call. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061130/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bush === A senior al-Maliki aide who attended Thursday's talks said the Iraqi leader presented Bush a blueprint for the equipping and training of Iraqi security forces. The aide, who spoke anonymously because of the sensitive nature of the information, declined to give details. The November elections that handed control of Congress to Democrats have given rise to heightened calls for the about 140,000 American soldiers in Iraq to begin coming home. === May we suggest? A fully trained Iraqi soldier gets the weapons and equipments of the American soldier he replaces. Thus the faster the Iraqis assume security, the faster the coming home of our boys and girls. We understand that no Iraqi girl might replace one of our girls; she would be replaced by an Iraqi boy. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/01/world/middleeast/30cnd-prexy.html?hp&ex=116494 9200&en=cc0950e57e29baa7&ei=5094&partner=homepage === Mr. Maliki later asserted that his country’s police and military forces would be ready to take over responsibility for Iraq’s security next year. “I cannot answer on behalf of the U.S. administration but I can tell you that from our side our forces will be ready by June 2007,” he told ABC News. === Let us take Mr. Maliki on his word. Starting June 2007 the non-Iraqi forces would leave Iraq as soon as transportation logistics permit. As per our suggestion in the post at 8:22 am today we donate all our weapons to the Iraqi forces and thus our boys and girls would be home faster! | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/794993.html === There will be a war next summer. Only the sector has not been chosen yet. The atmosphere in the Israel Defense Forces in the past month has been very pessimistic. The latest rounds in the campaigns on both fronts, Lebanon and the Gaza Strip, have left too many issues undecided, too many potential detonators that could cause a new conflagration. The army's conclusion from this is that a war in the new future is a reasonable possibility. As Amir Oren reported in Haaretz several weeks ago, the IDF's operative assumption is that during the coming summer months, a war will break out against Hezbollah and perhaps against Syria as well. ... Abbas' people are afraid that if the Shalit deal is finally completed, only Hamas will benefit from it. === Looks like the division inside Palestine stands in the way of peace. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.kommersant.com/p726072/Polonium-210/ === Atomic industry experts say that the Polonium-210 that was used to poison Litvinenko could almost be produced at home. “There are many ways of obtaining that isotope,” former Russian Minister of Atomic Energy Evgeny Adamov told Kommersant. “You need bismuth, which is openly available, and a source of neutrons, an accessible medical instrument, for example. The irradiation of bismuth with neutrons produces Polonium.” Adamov said that the poisoners of Litvinenko could have obtained Polonium-210 “anywhere at all.” “The substance is inconvenient for terrorist because, besides being radioactive, it is highly toxic,” Adamov continued. “Although the alpha-particle emission of Polonium-210 has no deep penetration ability, if it enters the human body, it leads to extremely serious consequences.” Polonium-210 is accessible not only to terrorists and spies. Small quantities of the substance can be obtained for scientific purposes, among other ways, over the Internet from the American company United Nuclear of Sandia Park, New Mexico. That company will deliver Polonium-210 in a hermetically-sealed capsule within 3 to 14 days for $69. The only condition for purchase is that it be shipped to an American address. The site indicates that the company does not ship abroad. === Let us hope that there is no claim that Russia is behind the Polonium 210 poisoning. Such accusations are bound to cause avoidable friction. | ||
| Anon |
Spy death post-mortem under way http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/01/uk.spywrap/index.html EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso voiced concern about the case. "We have a problem with Russia. In fact, we have several problems. Too many people have been killed and we don't know who killed them," he said on Thursday. It was a final attack by the old KGB diehards against those that help bring down the Old Soviet Union. In the great game they wait in the shaddows for an opportunity to strike and advance their interests. Unlike Alexander Litvinenko, I survived thanks to advanced medicine. I told them I was poisoned and that the KGB and DGI had a hand in it and they laughed. Until the bodies started stacking up. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/12/01/upoison101.xml === What the killers may not have reckoned with is that the polonium 210 that killed Mr Litvinenko, believed to be the only man ever killed with a nuclear poison, left a powerful radioactive "scent" as it was brought to London and inflicted on him. ... The potential political fall-out from the affair grew as it emerged that the Atomic Weapons Establishment can identify the plant at which the radioactive element was made and are in fact thought to have done so. If that is, as many suspect, in Russia, it could cause acute embarrassment to President Vladimir Putin’s government because its head of nuclear security said recently that no similar material had gone missing in the country. So new is this type of killing that the murderers may not have known how clearly their weapon of choice would show up, like a glowing trail of footprints around London, followed by Aldermaston scientists with machines called scintillation detectors. === Could it be a Russian assassin afterall? | ||
| Alliance of Patriots |
Homeland Security assigns terror scores to travelers http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/11/30/traveler.screening.ap/index.html How much liberty will be sacrifice in the name of protection? Such is the machine the government is building to track our movements. To whom have these contracts to build the machine been given? What companies sell this software to the government? How many ex-intelligence agents and law enforcement officers get paid high saleries to build and put in place this system? The American People raised one to challange such a system, backed by the Churches, and the Alliance of Patriots. We will have answers to our questions, exacted by congress, in the courts and in the media. So Help us God Alliance of Patriots | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Well Said Friendly Ghost | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_T ype1&c=Article&cid=1165014634565&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_ Home === Deadly radioactive material is circulating in the shadowy marketplaces of the world. ... This time it appears someone, somewhere, accessed polonium-210 — a radioactive element that can be used as a neutron trigger for a nuclear weapon — and used it to kill Litvinenko, either by injection, ingestion or inhalation. === If Polonium 210 is available in the black market, we cannot accuse Russia of involvement in the murder of Litvinenko. Looks like we have to install Positron Emission Tomography machines in every air, sea, and land ports! | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/03/weekinreview/03broad.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&or ef=slogin === Manufacturers of antistatic devices take great pains to make the polonium hard to remove. Even so, Dr. Zimmerman of King’s College said it could be done with “careful lab work,” which he declined to describe. ... An antistatic fan made by NRD, of Grand Island, N.Y., contains 31,500 microcuries of polonium 210 — or, in theory, more than 10 lethal doses. The unit often sells commercially for $225.00. Repeated calls to NRD were not returned, but the company in sales literature describes its products as unusually safe. === So any one who bought the above antistatic fan could have supplied the Polonium 210 to the assassin of Litvinenko. Why suspect Russia or even accuse Putin? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/12/03/nspy03.xml === It emerged that Mr Scaramella flew to Britain on an Easyjet flight from Naples to Stansted on October 31 and flew back on November 3. His medical results mean the plane does not need to be tested. === What does this imply? Is the plane confirmed to be contaminated with Polonium 210? Or that plane is free of contamination? | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Why is it that Mohideen Ibramsha is trying to shift blame for the Polonium 210 away from Russia? Friendly Ghost | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
I am not shifting the blame. I simply follow the principle that one is innocent until proven guilty. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16013640/site/newsweek/page/4/ === For the record, Baker mostly makes jokes about his cautious approach when it comes to the use of force. "I used to get asked why I didn't want to push on to Baghdad [in the 1991 gulf war]," Baker likes to say. "I don't get asked that question much anymore." === Baker might genuinely believe that Bush 41 did not remove Saddam in 1991 because of his counsel to Bush 41. I see another reason. Saddam was induced to attack Kuwait - tacitly - so that Saudis could be convinced that Saddam had ambitions of becoming the most powerful in the Middle East outshining King Fahd. Having established that Saudis require the presence of the Americans in a nearby locale to prevent a future attack by Saddam, the Prince Sultan Air Base was built. If Saddam was removed in 1991, the Prince Sultan Air Base would not have come into existence. It is my understanding that the border of the envisaged 'Greater Israel' extends south of Riyadh until and inclusive of Prince Sultan Air Base. Such an extension of the borders of Israel into the Arabian Peninsula need not involve bloodshed. The conditions are ripe for internal Saudi turmoil to split the country between King Abdullah and Prince Sultan as the third most powerful person in Saudi Royal family is yet to be identified. As long as three most powerful members of the Saudi family were in place, there was no possibility of a split as out of three one would get countered by the other two. With just two most powerful members of the Saudi family alone in existence now, the split is a possibility. So with all due respect to Baker, Saddam was not plucked by Bush 41 for reasons beyond USA; the powers that be who plan for a global dictatorship. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16013640/site/newsweek/page/4/ === As Bush 41's secretary of State, Baker was willing to lean on the Israelis to try to make peace with the Palestinians by forgoing the establishment of settlements on the West Bank. Under pressure from Israel's friends in Congress, Bush 41's team backed off. === What a pity that Baker was ignored. If he was listened to instead of getting sidestepped by the Israeli lobby in USA, the vulnerable West Bank settlements would not have been built and the Israeli Prime Minister need not sue for peace with Hamas now. I write this now in the hope that at least now Baker would be listened to and his advice acted upon. | ||
| Ivan |
I suspect Mohideen is playing 'devil's advocate' to assess any other possibilities of why or who would want to kill Alexander Litvinenko, former Soviet KGB spy, now openly critical of Putin and his government, etc. Just connecting all the dots, it seems that Russia comes up the most likely suspect, but other possibilities exist, though those may be on a vastly declining scale. Polonium 210 is commercially available, so makes a handy poison that is less easily traceable as to national origin, since it can be bought 'over the counter' about anywhere. This takes Russia off the hook, sort of speak, as to being the prime suspect in Litvienko's murder, except for the obvious enmity between Putin's government and Litvienko's outspoken criticism, which is forbidden in Russia. However, this is today's BBC news: Spy death inquiry moves to Russia http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6203222.stm So there seems to be some reason why the Russian connection is being pursued further. An earlier article said this: "The investigation into the spy's death has unearthed traces of radiation at 12 locations. That includes the two British Airways planes, which tested positive after being used to fly between London and Moscow, as well as other European routes." So the plot thickens, since now these contaminated planes had been flying to other countries. Then again, whom do you believe? Litvinenko on his death bed accused Russia: The mystery of Litvinenko's death http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6180432.stm Conspiracy theories, or investigative research? If he said he was being targeted by Russia's agents, then it makes sense to start the investigation there, rather than chasing some hare brained conspiracy, I would think, especially if there was motive. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/53135.html === Nearly two months after the rest of its army left southern Lebanon, Israel agreed Sunday to pull its few dozen remaining soldiers from the Lebanese part of a village divided by the border, yielding control to U.N. peacekeepers. The move came as Israel's Cabinet discussed the three-day-old siege of Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Siniora's government by masses of pro-Hezbollah demonstrators in Beirut. Commentators here called the troop pullout a diplomatic gesture aimed at shoring up Siniora's position, but some said it would be little help. Israeli officials are alarmed by the crisis in Lebanon, fearing that a collapse of the moderate regime could bring to power an Iranian proxy state on Israel's northern border and lead to another war like the inconclusive 34-day conflict last summer with Iranian ally Hezbollah. The pullback of troops to the Israeli side of the border-straddling village of Ghajar was ordered by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and other senior officials but not formally announced, apparently out of concern that an overt Israeli effort to influence events in Beirut might backfire. === So now Israel agrees that it was occupying a part of Lebanon. Why should the people of Lebanon reexercising their power to elect a new government, if it comes to that, result in a Syrian-inclined government coming to power there? We need not get unduly alarmed about the future. | ||
| Anon |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6180432.stm "When Yeltsin broke the KGB into different agencies such as the FSB and the SVR, the majority of its members stayed on but some went into the Duma and a third group went into legitimate business, he said." "But a "murky bunch" went into what was known as the Russian mafia." I note that when I was in mexico I identified the fact that a team of Ex KGB types went into the Russian Mafia and were paying back old scores and targeting selective personnel to get their hands on marketable data. Such things included my laptop in Mexico city. This recent poisoning also raises questions regarding the anthrax used in the United States. At the time I thought it had the feel of a KGB disinformation operation. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1747746/posts Saudis and Iran prepare to do battle over corpse of Iraq Friendly Ghost | ||
| Anon |
I am sitting here before class going over my notes on a presentation about Ageing in Society. I just finished reading the Robert Ludlum The Aquitaine Progression. A very nice piece of fiction that set the stage for many conspiracy theories. The NEOCONS in the United States came close to dragging this world to the bring of WWIII by precipitating a series of wars that have amost excalated out of control. They also undermined the seperation of Church and State. They did this with the backing of a group of ultra-rich and extreme religous conservatives in the United States that have made fortunes from moving our jobs overseas in pursuit of the lowest wage and building mega churches to consolidate a hold on people. They did this because they were true believers that felt we had a divine mission, not so much out of any evil intent. Naive and simple is a more fitting description of them. For they felt they could walk into Iraq Bible in One hand Gun in another and vanquish the terrorists on the field of battle and bring peace to the middle east. The American people looked upon their works and rejected them, sending a message back to Washington with their votes. The Aquitaine Progression is a lesson in what could have happened but did not. When I was in Saudi Arabia they, Al Qaeda wanted the back door I found into our Nuclear Command and Control Network, for obvious reasons. In Mexico they (KGB, GRU PRC) wanted access to the United States State Department Communication system. Old KGB operatives working with and aiding Terrorists to bring down the United States. To do to us what we did to the Soviet Union. They used neurotoxin on me and by grace of god and modern medicine I survived. The Russian spy with Polonium 210 was not so lucky. In time these old adversaries will pass from this life. They are getting older. Hence these thoughts and mussings before I give my presentation on Aging in Society. During the Indo/PAK nuclear crisis, I played the game of spy verses spy with knowledge of Nuclear forces on both sides of that conflict to send a message to both sides. In doing so I bet the lives of hundreds of millions. It was a game I had to play. When I walked in that room I sent a message to the Indian high cast that the situation was dangerous and that the terrorists had brought about conditions that teetored on the brink of nuclear war. During that crisis India mated its nuclear warheads to its missiles as did Pakistan. The birds were fueled and ready to go. That is how close it came. The Indian high Cast, needed to know what the low caste rulers of India did and when I told them they acted. That is how close it came. My High Cast indian host and I spoke of ancient methods. Both he and I know the Hindu's had a long history of poison and the skill to use it. Not even India's government leaders are invicible and hundreds of millions would not die without making their anger known. Such was the game I played in India. Ed | ||
| Peace and Freedom |
The following is a copy of a type of report I recieve from the Federation of American Scientists. With regards to the aims and objectives of the NEOCONs that took control of our government I let this assessment of the FAS speek for itself. ED 1. General overview of report: http://fas.org/blog/ssp/ 2. Web page with option to download each chapter individually: http://www.nukestrat.com/china/chinareport.htm 3. Full PDF copy of report (12.5 MB) here: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf 4. Google Map over Chinese nuclear and selected military facilities here: http://www.nukestrat.com/china/FAS-NRDC2006.kmz WASHINGTON (November 30, 2006) – The U.S. military, intelligence agencies, and conservative think tanks and news organizations are exaggerating China’s nuclear weapons capability to justify developing a new generation of nuclear and conventional weapons, according to a report issued today by the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) and the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC). Likewise, the report found that the Chinese have been citing U.S. weapons upgrades as a rationale for modernizing theirs, locking the two nations in a dangerous action-and-reaction competition reminiscent of the Cold War. “The Pentagon has been sounding the alarm about China ’s nuclear intentions for a long time, but our analysis shows that they are overstating the threat,” said Robert S. Norris, an NRDC nuclear analyst and co-author of the report. “Now that the Soviet Union is gone, the military needs a new threat to justify buying new missiles, destroyers, submarines and fighter planes. So they’re hyping China .” Based on unclassified and declassified U.S. government documents as well as commercial satellite images of Chinese installations, the 250-page report, “Chinese Nuclear Forces and U.S. Nuclear War Planning,” provides a detailed overview of China ’s nuclear forces and its plans to upgrade them. It also describes two nuclear strike scenarios that calculate the casualties that each side would suffer. (For the report, go to http://www.nukestrat.com/china/chinareport.htm. For high-resolution Google Earth satellite images of dozens of nuclear weapons-related and military sites in China , as well as nuclear strike simulations from the report, go to http://www.nukestrat.com/china/FAS-NRDC2006.kmz.) The report’s main finding is that the Pentagon and others routinely highlight specific incidents out of context that inaccurately portray a looming Chinese threat. Specifically, the report demonstrates they have been embellishing China ’s submarine and long-range missile capabilities. For the last two years, the Pentagon’s annual report on Chinese military developments cited the intrusion of a Chinese nuclear-powered attack submarine into Japanese territorial waters in 2004 as emblematic of how China ’s military is trying to expand its reach deep into the Pacific. What the DOD reports did not mention, the FAS/NRDC report reveals, is Chinese submarine patrols have dropped from a peak of six in 2000 to zero in 2005. Dramatic news coverage earlier this month of a Chinese submarine surfacing in the vicinity of the USS Kitty Hawk carrier group near Okinawa failed to mention that this was the first reported Chinese submarine patrol in nearly two years. In addition, the report found that China ’s sole submarine capable of firing ballistic missiles, which was built in 1981, has never gone on an extended deterrent patrol with nuclear missiles. In fact, the submarine has never been fully operational. Similarly, U.S. intelligence agencies warn that the Chinese will be able to target 75 to 100 nuclear warheads at the continental United States by 2015. But that prediction assumes China will be able to deploy 40 to 55 new DF-31A missiles before 2015, in addition to two other shorter-range missiles. Given that the Chinese have yet to conduct test flights of the DF-31A, the report concluded that that assumption is highly questionable. The Pentagon also has made much out of the fact that China ’s next-generation missiles will be mobile. But the majority of China ’s ballistic missile force always has been mobile, the report points out, and the U.S. military has targeted it as a routine matter since the 1980s. In fact, improved U.S. targeting of Chinese missiles has played a significant role in prompting China to develop new long-range missiles, according to U.S. intelligence agencies. The report concludes that the United States will be easily able to maintain its overwhelming nuclear superiority over the Chinese for decades. But the report also points out the China needs relatively few warheads to adequately deter the United States . A hypothetical Chinese attack with its 20 nuclear long-range ballistic missiles on 20 U.S. cities would result in as many as 40 million casualties, the report estimates, and blanket large portions of the United States and Canada with radioactive fallout. Likewise, the United States needs relatively few warheads to deter China . A limited and highly accurate U.S. nuclear attack on China ’s 20 long-range ballistic missile silos would result in as many as 11 million casualties and scatter radioactive fallout across three Chinese provinces, according to a simulation described in the report. The report does confirm that China – like all of the declared nuclear powers – is indeed updating its forces. This effort, however, has been moving slowly and is, to a considerable extent, a reaction to U.S. nuclear deployments and military policies. “Unlike the United States or Russia , the Chinese have taken extraordinarily long periods of time to field new weapons systems,” said Hans M. Kristensen, project director at the Federation of American Scientists and lead author of the report. “And in many cases, their weapons have been obsolete by the time they were finally deployed. But the Chinese still need to be more open about their plans, or they will continue to feed the perception among U.S. military officials that they pose a significant threat.” The challenge facing China and the United States , said Kristensen and Norris, is to halt their action-reaction dance that only can undermine the more important economic relationship that binds them together. In light of the recent North Korean nuclear test, concern that Japan might decide to build its own nuclear force, and the potential for a nuclear arms race in Asia, their report urges the United States and China to work more closely together to limit each other’s capabilities and better understand each other’s objectives to avoid military competition – or worse. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2541 === According to the Economist, last month Bashar al-Asad made clear to British emissary Sir Nigel Sheinwald four conditions for greater regional cooperation: (1) an end to the UN investigation into Syria’s role in the Hariri assassination; (2) a guarantee that Washington will not try to undermine the Syrian regime; (3) a return of Syria’s influence in Lebanon; and (4) the return of the Golan Heights. Asad is not averse to talking to the United States or playing a constructive role in Iraq, but he has given his price. === Is the price too high? As regards the UN investigation in Syria's role in the Hariri assassination, it seems to be happening. The current government of Lebanon is under heavy public pressure to resign. Once this government goes, there would be no progress on the probe. The ISG is expected to recommend the US seek the help of Iran and Syria to help with Iraq. Whether the US government would actually implement the ISG report is not known. While seeking the help of Damascus in Iraq, the US cannot simultaneously be involved in regime change in Damascus. Once the current Lebanese government falls, it is automatic that Syrian influence in Lebanon would be restored. That leaves the Golan Heights. With the failure of the IDF to stop the firing of short range rockets by Hezbollah, the Security Wall is meaningless and thus the security of Israel is already at risk. By agreeing to implement the UN resolutions on the Golan Heights, Israel would gain the sympathy of the UN and thus could use the UN in restraining her Arab neighbors. From the above, it seems the price demanded by Syria is not really high and it would be better to make Syria a friend rather leave it where it is now. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=60276 === The group was initiated earlier this year by Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., who returned from a trip to Iraq calling for a high-powered bipartisan task force that could assess U.S. options. Wolf added $1 million to a 2006 spending bill to fund the group. === | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
The YUKOS Affair: Protecting Democracy, Private Property, and the Rule of Law by Ariel Cohen, Ph.D. http://www.heritage.org/Research/RussiaandEurasia/EM906.cfm In his quest to return Russia to super-power status Putin wanted to build a weapon he could use to threaten the west. That weapon was oil. In looking at the poisoning of the Russian Spy all motives must be looked at. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Ivan |
This is a quote from Friendly Ghost's article referenced above. I remember when the Yukos Oil story first broke, and the stock had fallen from its highs, I was never tempted. The story made sense instantly ONLY as a power play for oil within Russian government-mafia power structures, so avoided it like the plague. In retrospect, it appears this was the right thing, but regrets that Russia is sliding back into its Medieval past of lorded serfdom, now corporate serfdom. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+storyid-17242.html === At that time, U.S. combat forces in Iraq could be deployed only in units embedded with Iraqi forces, in rapid-reaction and special operations teams, and in training, equipping, advising, force protection, and search and rescue. Intelligence and support efforts would continue. === May be I am stating the obvious. The reduction of US forces should not wait until the indicated time line. We need not tell the insurgents that our boys and girls are available for target practice until a specific date. They should be moved out as early as feasible quietly so that the Iraqi forces have time to learn and implement the logisics necessary to play a leading role. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://mediamatters.org/items/200612080004 === [W]e must not lose sight of the importance of the situation inside Afghanistan and the renewed threat posed by the Taliban. Afghanistan's borders are porous. If the Taliban were to control more of Afghanistan, it could provide al Qaeda the political space to conduct terrorist operations. This development would destabilize the region and have national security implications for the United States and other countries around the world. === http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/30/opinion/edrashid.php === Tribal leaders in Peshawar and along the border now say that the Taliban are recruiting thousands of fighters in Pakistan and Afghanistan for a full-scale, multipronged offensive in the spring, which will open so many fronts in southern Afghanistan that present NATO forces will be unable to cope. This time the target is Kabul and the government of President Hamid Karzai. === Are we in trouble in Iraq or Afghanistan or both? Won't it be wise for Iran to help defeat the Taliban and thus help US move its forces from Iraq to Afghanistan immediately? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/07/AR2006120700361. html === Olmert said the time was not ripe for talks with Syria, partly because of Damascus's support for the ruling Palestinian movement Hamas, a group sworn to Israel's destruction. "The way Syria is acting these days, especially its subversive action in Lebanon and its support for the extremist Hamas... does not create a picture of the possibility for talks in the near future," he said. === We hope talks with Syria and Iran would help pacify Iraq. If Israel would not even talk with Syria, transfer of Golan Heights to Syria is moot. Without that transfer Syria would not help in Iraq. So Israel is effectively saying that it does not care for the lives of our boys and girls inside Iraq. It is indeed very unfortunate. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.dawn.com/2006/12/10/top15.htm === A front-page report in the Washington Post, however, gave a different perspective of the administration’s thinking. The report said that the administration was focusing on three main options in its search for a new strategy for Iraq, all three different from those recommended by the bipartisan commission. Under the new strategy, Washington intends to send 15,000 to 30,000 additional troops to secure Baghdad and accelerate the training of Iraqi forces. The United States already has more than 140,000 troops in Iraq. The second option is to redirect the US military away from the internal strife to focus mainly on hunting insurgents. The third option requires Washington to refocus its efforts on consolidating its ties with the majority Shias and abandon its attempts to reach out to Sunni insurgents. === Is the Commander-in-Chief behaving the way he does today because there is no oversight by the Congress until the new Congress convenes on January 4, 2007? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12112006/news/nationalnews/johnny_apple_nationalnews _maggie_haberman.htm === December 11, 2006 -- Sen. John McCain swept onto the turf of potential rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Rudy Giuliani last night, vowing a strong defense of Israel and saying military action may be needed to prevent Iran from building nukes. === Senator John McCain is the front runner in the Republican Party. His above statement clearly shows that interests of Israel is paramount in the US politicians than that of the US children. Looks like there would indeed be a Christmas surprize! | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20061210-102200-5037r.htm === Buried on p. 58 of the ISG report is another potential time bomb for Israel: The panel suggests that a final settlement between Israel and the Palestinians include the "right of return" -- terminology generally used to describe the Palestinian demand that millions of refugees be permitted to return to their ancestral homes inside what is now Israel -- a formula that would effectively end its existence as the world's only Jewish state. President Bush would do well to keep very, very far away from the delusional thinking manifested in this report. === The above observation is strange. Once the Palestinian state comes into existence the refugees would return to Palestine; they would not like to step their feet in Israel. This kind of hawkish recommendations indicate the desire of the group supporting the Commander-in-Chief that he should start the war against Iran soon. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-12 -11T141706Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-279846-1.xml === TEL AVIV (Reuters) - Israel's prime minister heads to Germany and Italy on Monday where he will press for greater efforts to curtail Iran's nuclear programme and maintain a Western aid boycott of the Hamas-led Palestinian government. Ehud Olmert's three-day visit to both countries will be his first since taking office and comes as Europe mounts a new push to revive stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who will meet Olmert on Tuesday, has announced plans to launch new Middle East peace efforts when Germany takes the rotating presidency of the European Union in January. === Once there is an attack on Iran either by Israel alone or by US and Israel as a Christmas present to the peace lovers of the world, Germany cannot initiate any move to resolve the Israel - Palestine dispute! | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
What would be the loss by attacking Iran now? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5359672.stm === The number of women graduating from Iran's universities is overtaking the number of men, promising a change in the job market and, with it, profound social change. === The Mullahs have control only as long as they keep the women without any income of their own. That non-earning status of women forces them to accept the status of 'their Islam-sanctioned prostitution.' Any premature attack on Iran would lead to immediate closure of the universities and destroying any chance of a peaceful change of regime in Iran. Looks like there should be no period in US when the government does not have the Congress oversight. Is there any way the outgoing Congress could reconvene and be in session until the new Congress takes charge? Is there anything Ed and his partners do? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/israel-denies-pm-made-nuclear-blunder/2006/1 2/12/1165685651404.html === Israel has long declined to confirm or deny having the bomb as part of a "strategic ambiguity" policy that it says fends off numerically superior enemies. It is widely believed to be the sole nuclear power in the Middle East. "The most that we tried to get for ourselves is to be able to live without terror. But we never threatened any nation with annihilation," Olmert said in a German television interview shown on Israeli television. "Iran, openly, explicitly and publicly threatens to wipe Israel off the map. Can you say that this is the same level, when they are aspiring to have nuclear weapons, as America, France, Israel, Russia?" === Come again; aspiring to have nuclear weapons like ... ISRAEL? Is this an indirect warning to Iran? | ||
| Gulf War I |
We have in our possession copies of toxicological testing of Major Edward A. Chesky Jr’s body. We can confirm that he was exposed at some point to 1200 times the normal level of Neuro-Toxins in the form of an organophosphate chemical. The point at which this chemical was introduced into him is uncertain. Entry points include Operation Desert Storm or Mexico city At present hundreds of thousands of service members have put in claims for exposure to chemicals during Operation Desert Storm. Major Edward A. Chesky Jr’s testing confirms exposure to neuro-toxin. If released in a court of law this finding could open the door to billions of dollars in damages for the service members suffering from Gulf War Syndrome. Conversely it could also indicate a KGB or allied intelligence service attempt against Major Edward A. Chesky Jr’s life. Motives for this attempt include to cover the theft of government material from his possession; revenge for services against the Soviet Union During the Cold War; or kill him in order to prevent him from breaking agent networks. If the later is the case it would likely result in a severe strain on U.S.-Russian relations and call into question the findings of the court involved in the PANAM 103 trial. The findings of these tests have the capability to inflict severe damage on the governments of the United States and Russia. It is our intent to use this information within a court of law as a tool to uncover the truth of the matter if further threats of harm or discrimination for employment is found to be directed against Major Edward A. Chesky Jr. Given the ambiguities of the situation it is questionable as to where Major Edward A. Chesky Jr. was exposed to a Neuro-Toxin. At present the information in our possession is sufficient to inflict great harm on a number of parties at the international level. However, that is not our intent. We understand the implications of this information and do not wish to raise false hopes among those experiencing Gulf War Illness. Nor do we consider it proof of that syndrome. Some things are best left in the shadows. For the federal government, hundreds of thousands of Gulf War Veteran’s are watching the back of Major Edward A. Chesky Jr. We are also watching you and every move you make with regards to Major Edward A. Chesky Jr’s applications for Federal Jobs. We trust him, not you and we have suffered for a long time. Gulf War Veterans | ||
| ANON |
Thanks for the support Gulf War I veterans. I provided to one group of Gulf War Syndrome researchers a complete set of test results. Obviously it had the effect I anticipated. I also provided a set to the Disabled American Veteran's organization. Both of these organizations lay ouside the control of the federal government and are advocates for disabled veterans. Following my return from Mexico serum tests were provided to Catholic and other religous hospitals. They confirmed exposure again to poison as well as a biological agent. These records also lay outside federal government control. Fortunatley the vaccines I was given prior and drug treatment following had good effects. This data merged with the Gulf War data provides these organizations sufficient evidence in a controled environment, accessible only with my consent, to initiate what amounts to a melt down in the federal government on the scale of a nuclear reactor gone out of control. The amount of damges from confirming a cause of Gulf War Illness in terms of payouts to Gulf War I Veteran's would run to between 55-75 Billion U.S. Dollars. In terms of what I cost the Soviet Union in terms of compromising their War Plans the cost in dollar figures was estimated in 1980 costs at 60-80 Billion U.S. dollars. Now consider the motives in terms of that for silencing me, killing me and trying to keep me under wraps. It is not my intention to cost the federal government 75 Billion Dollars. I trust the intelligence and security services along with the Federal Office of Personnel Managment will be able to find me a job that suits my talents. I was at the mall today looking at the Swiss Army Ambassadorial Watches However, a nice quiet federal job or state job would suit me just as well at this point. Ed | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
The law that provides for the compensation of services members suffering from Gulf War Syndrome expires on 30 September 2011. After that date service members will no longer be eligiable for compensation for service connected exposure to agents that resulted in Gulf War Syndrome. To halt claims for this disease anyone with evidence of expsoure to toxic agents is shuffled off into the corner and buried by the Federal Government. In their defense in order to prevent huge disability payments, the Governments involved in the first Gulf War have done their best to cover up any evidence of chemical exposure while putting out study after study that fails to include those actually confirmed to have been exposed to chemical agents. Friendly Ghost http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3748844.stm Gulf War Syndrome http://www.military.com/benefits/veterans-health-care/gulf-war-syndrome From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [Laws in effect as of January 7, 2003] [Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between January 7, 2003 and February 12, 2003] [CITE: 38USC1117] TITLE 38--VETERANS' BENEFITS PART II--GENERAL BENEFITS CHAPTER 11--COMPENSATION FOR SERVICE-CONNECTED DISABILITY OR DEATH SUBCHAPTER II--WARTIME DISABILITY COMPENSATION Sec. 1117. Compensation for disabilities occurring in Persian Gulf War veterans (a)(1) The Secretary may pay compensation under this subchapter to a Persian Gulf veteran with a qualifying chronic disability that became manifest-- (A) during service on active duty in the Armed Forces in the Southwest Asia theater of operations during the Persian Gulf War; or (B) to a degree of 10 percent or more during the presumptive period prescribed under subsection (b). (2) For purposes of this subsection, the term ``qualifying chronic disability'' means a chronic disability resulting from any of the following (or any combination of any of the following): (A) An undiagnosed illness. (B) A medically unexplained chronic multisymptom illness (such as chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, and irritable bowel syndrome) that is defined by a cluster of signs or symptoms. (C) Any diagnosed illness that the Secretary determines in regulations prescribed under subsection (d) warrants a presumption of service-connection. (b) The Secretary shall prescribe by regulation the period of time following service in the Southwest Asia theater of operations during the Persian Gulf War that the Secretary determines is appropriate for presumption of service connection for purposes of this section. The Secretary's determination of such period of time shall be made following a review of any available credible medical or scientific evidence and the historical treatment afforded disabilities for which manifestation periods have been established and shall take into account other pertinent circumstances regarding the experiences of veterans of the Persian Gulf War. (c)(1) Whenever the Secretary determines under section 1118(c) of this title that a presumption of service connection previously established under this section is no longer warranted-- (A) a veteran who was awarded compensation under this section on the basis of the presumption shall continue to be entitled to receive compensation under this section on that basis; and (B) a survivor of a veteran who was awarded dependency and indemnity compensation for the death of a veteran resulting from the disease on the basis of the presumption before that date shall continue to be entitled to receive dependency and indemnity compensation on that basis. (2) This subsection shall cease to be effective on September 30, 2011. (d)(1) The Secretary shall prescribe regulations to carry out this section. (2) Those regulations shall include the following: (A) A description of the period and geographical area or areas of military service in connection with which compensation under this section may be paid. (B) A description of the illnesses for which compensation under this section may be paid. (C) A description of any relevant medical characteristic (such as a latency period) associated with each such illness. (e) A disability for which compensation under this subchapter is payable shall be considered to be service connected for purposes of all other laws of the United States. (f) For purposes of this section, the term ``Persian Gulf veteran'' means a veteran who served on active duty in the Armed Forces in the Southwest Asia theater of operations during the Persian Gulf War. (g) For purposes of this section, signs or symptoms that may be a manifestation of an undiagnosed illness or a chronic multisymptom illness include the following: (1) Fatigue. (2) Unexplained rashes or other dermatological signs or symptoms. (3) Headache. (4) Muscle pain. (5) Joint pain. (6) Neurological signs and symptoms. (7) Neuropsychological signs or symptoms. (8) Signs or symptoms involving the upper or lower respiratory system. (9) Sleep disturbances. (10) Gastrointestinal signs or symptoms. (11) Cardiovascular signs or symptoms. (12) Abnormal weight loss. (13) Menstrual disorders. (h)(1) If the Secretary determines with respect to a medical research project sponsored by the Department that it is necessary for the conduct of the project that Persian Gulf veterans in receipt of compensation under this section or section 1118 of this title participate in the project without the possibility of loss of service connection under either such section, the Secretary shall provide that service connection granted under either such section for disability of a veteran who participated in the research project may not be terminated. Except as provided in paragraph (2), nothwithstanding \1\ any other provision of law any grant of service-connection protected under this subsection shall remain service-connected for purposes of all provisions of law under this title. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
It is not my intention to cost the federal government 75 Billion Dollars. ED Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 05:38 pm: Anon The compensation would be paid to possibly thousands of veterans. Compared to the cost of the current Iraq exercise, a cost of 75 billion dollars is small. Even though the health of the Gulf War Veterans may never regain to prewar status, the compensation would give them some respite. Further the country has a duty to look after her soldiers who have risked their life and suffered for her. Finances should be of no concern. | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002-12-23-sarin-gas_x.htm Low dose of sarin gas may have long-term effects It is clear from current research that the nerve agent sarin can have long term effects on the central nervous system. That Ed was poisoned with a organophosphate toxin is without doubt. When, where and who did it is a mystery. The KGB, Cubans, during Gulf War I, or was it the the United States Military Industrial Complex to kill someone who knew too much. The last is unlikely as such is against U.S. Laws and the United States through everything it had to cure Ed and bring him back. Or was it the Jihadists, Chinese or Russian Mob (Ex-KGB) What is sure is we don't know. My Best to an old warrior. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/12/13/ap3249919.html === Military commanders who met Tuesday with Bush sought more advisers to train the Iraqis, not more U.S. combat troops in Iraq. ... Abizaid has told the Senate Armed Services Committee that troop levels in Iraq need to stay fairly stable and the use of military adviser teams expanded. About 140,000 U.S. troops and about 5,000 advisers are in Iraq. === There was a very capable carpenter. A number of apprentices joined him to learn the trade. Since the carpenter wanted to ensure the highest quality of his products he continued to do the work himself. All that the trainees could do was watch him. And they never became carpenters as they did not handle any tool in their training! The advice by Gen. Abizaid ensures that he behaves just like the carpenter. Unless and until the Iraqis take charge, kill and get killed, they would never graduate to handling their security on their own. The Bush administration along with its commanders has been touting that the force level in Iraq is enough to pacify Iraq. If that be so, the Iraqis to be trained by inducting more trainers are just going to be watchers. Training is meaningful if and only if the trained Iraqis are pushed to the front to challenge the insurgents. The only viable strategy that would make Iraq self-sufficient is to withdraw our boys and girls as more and more Iraqis are trained. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Why leave the Shiite looters empty handed? http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7005843991 === Saudi Arabia wants to support Iraq after U.S. troop's pullout as the kingdom is concern that once U.S. troops leave Iraq - the ruling Shiite majority could ravage and loot the Sunni minority. === Yes Saudi Arabia should help the Sunni Muslims of Iraq. How are they going to help? From the same URL: === Saudi Arabia, which is dominated by a majority of Sunnis country, promised U.S. officials that it would not intervene in Iraq's Sunni insurgency but would support and provide financial backup if Bush administration pulls its troops out of Iraq. === Is it not very good for the looters that they could as well collect some finances from the Sunni Muslims after looting them? We suspect that Vice President Cheney has pressured the Saudi authorities not to support the Sunni Muslims of Iraq with man power. Why? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Whom to believe? http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Mussa_makes_progress_but_not_enough_12142006.html === Regarding the new national unity government, the source said: "A national unity government consisting of 19 ministers for the majority and 10 miniters for the opposition plus one independent will be selected. "But the obstacle in this issue was on how to choose the independent minister," the source added. === http://www.kuna.net.kw/home/story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=934039 === Speaking to journalists, Moussa, who has been involved in intensive diplomatic efforts to resolve the political crisis, said he reached an agreement with political parties on forming a new government, including 19 ministers of the "March 14 Movement" and 10 of the opposition camp, with a non-partisan executive. The league chief, emerging from a meeting with President Emile Lahoud, said he would declare further results of his efforts later today. He indicated that he reached a package deal with the parties, stipulating an end to a sit-in by the opposition supporters in the city center, proceeding the case of forming a tribunal for cross-examining assassination of the former premier, Rafic Al-Hariri, and expanding the governmnet. === There is one report quoting Moussa; another quoting 'a source.' Which one to believe? Shall we say the West looks at the possible failure points while the Middle (East) looks for optimistic outcome? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2006/dec/15/intelligence-agency-counters-iraq-study- report-tal/ === The count: 300-plus, with 49 analysts focused exclusively on the insurgency. Last week's report from the Iraq Study Group, led by former Secretary of State James A. Baker III and former Democratic Rep. Lee Hamilton of Indiana, said DIA has fewer than 10 analysts with more than two years of experience studying the insurgency. ... The study group's findings echo complaints quietly voiced in recent months by a number of current and former American officials, who have warned of the failure by American intelligence officers in Iraq to adequately penetrate the Sunni insurgency. These officials say the level of violence in Baghdad makes it extremely difficult for American intelligence officers to move around the country to gather information, and as a result they rely far too heavily on Iraqis who come to them in the Green Zone or at other major American bases, and on information from the intelligence service of the new Iraqi government. === In intelligence it is the quality that matters not the quantity. Have we not suffered by relying on Iraqis like Chalabi alone in starting the Iraq war? | ||
| Ivan |
Conference of Hate sponsored by Iran's Ayatollahs, and their spokesman, Ahmedinejad. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/6183061.stm This is pure rubbish, terribly disrespectful to the victims of the Holocaust and their families. This hatred is sponsored by the same people who want to enrich uranium of their stated 'peaceful' purposes? Their beligerence is obvious, their hatred of Jews is obvious, and so is their disdain for civilized behavior promoting understanding and peace. It's not as if the ayatollahs are promoting the development of a cure for AIDS or leukemia. No, they want to own the biggest guns. They are irresponsible, religious fanatics, hatemongers, and in whose hands those biggest guns would make them warmongers on a scale we had not yet seen. That is what their 'conference of hate' under the guise of 'free speech' represents: a forum platform of pure Coercion. Know your enemy, Iran under the Madhi maddened ayatollahs is not a friend. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3340862,00.html === But sources in Fatah believe that Israel has a key role. According to them, a diplomatic agreement with Israel may put them back at the center of the stage. And what solution are they after: A Palestinian state on all the 1967 territories, including East Jerusalem, including a solution to the refugee problem. "The equation is a just solution based on the '67 borders, or alternatively, a reality in which Israel finds itself with a strong Hamas and a crushed Fatah. Without a real diplomatic solution, we will not be able to fight against Hamas, which will happy to claim that also recognizing Israel did not get us anywhere." === Either way Israel loses. If they agree to the 1967 borders what about the settlements in West Bank? If they do not bail out Fatah by losing the settlements now the Hamas could continue showing the impotence of the financial blockade. | ||
| Ivan |
From the article referenced above by Mohideen: This is a case of democratic elections elected the strongest party, which here translates into the 'might is right' philosophy of Palestinian elections. I think the 'selection' democratic policy presented in Mohideen's three points on another thread is a better solution. When a people elect violent powers over peaceful consultative powers, the democratic process fails. I think this is the problem in Palestinian Arab elections, that they elect to power the most coercive force, in this case Hamas, that is uncompromising with any other elected powers, calls for the destruction of a sovereign state, Israel, and takes to the streets with violence if they don't get their way. Peace under such a 'democratic' process doesn't stand a chance. The Palestinian Arabs are in effect their own worst enemies. Ivan | ||
| Naive |
I suppose they elect by a "might is right" philosophy, because they feel helpless. Imagine how we would feel if world powers got together and established a country in the middle of the U.S. and then backed that country with the latest, most sophisticated military technology. We'd elect a strong, aggressive government too! I'm not saying its right or a good solution to the problem. I'm just supplying a possible reason for the behavior. Naive | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=789441&contrassID=25& subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=1&listSrc=Y&art=1 === One can guess that this is the message that Olmert received from Bush: I share your anxiety about the Iranian threat, but America is not able and does not want to act alone. In his speech, the prime minister said that Bush's determination "to prevent this most serious of developments is unquestionable. But America must have the support of the international community." In other words, the president told him that his hands are tied, that without the Europeans and the Russians it is impossible to do anything. The chance that they will take to the task of destroying the Iranian atomic installations looks like zero at the moment. No wonder Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad boasted this week of the approaching completion of the atomic program. The significance of this is that the Israeli leadership will soon be facing a difficult dilemma: whether to gamble on a military action against Iran, the operational possibility of which is not clear, or to accustom the public gradually to life in the shadow of the bomb. The politicians' rhetoric is pushing for a confrontation. But strategic experts in Israel and in the United States are warning against this. === The above analysis is a month old. I post it because it is very relevant with the Commander-in-Chief seeking more troops for Iraq rather than ways and means of reducing the troops. If the armament industry becomes more important than the people's verdict, it might result in terrible loss to the armament industry. Victory has many mothers while defeat is an orphan. | ||
| Ivan |
Dare we hope for a positive change in Iran's ayatollah constitution? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6188207.stm "Iran's moderate former President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani has won election to Iran's powerful clerical body, the Assembly of Experts, results show." Iran's ruling religious elite can use a change towards moderation, and the sanity of reason. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6188207.stm The link given by Ivan has the following: === Mr Rafsanjani's success was helped by an unexpectedly high turnout and by a new alliance between him and the reformists, our correspondent says. === Let us hope that there would be reform in the understanding of Islam inside Iran. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/802528.html === Israeli military officials said Monday that dozens, perhaps hundreds, of Hamas militants recently left the Gaza Strip to receive advanced military training in Iran. === It has nothing to do with Israel. The 'Abbas Protection Force' is trained by USA. What would the poor Hamas do if they are to be attacked by unknown assailants (possibly the Abbas Protection Force behind the curtains) unless they also receive matching training? My concern is the following from the above URL: === The training is similar to that received by thousands of Hezbollah guerrillas from Lebanon over the past few years, and Israel fears it will greatly improve Hamas' military capability in any future battle with Israel Defense Forces troops in Gaza, the officials said ... === We hope the above statement does not justify the attack on Iran by Israel and thus indirectly dragging our boys and girls into the next conflict. | ||
| Ivan |
Mohideen, you obviously side in your heart with Hezbollah and Hamas, right? You show no concern for Israel being attacked in Hezbollah fashion by the newly Iran trained Hamas militants, right? Am I calling it right that you are a Hamas and Hezbollah supporter and anti-Israel? Now, the question I must ask is this: How valid is it for someone to be calling for peace on one hand while supporting anti-Israel militants aggression on the other hand? Should we simply ignore all your nice words on peace, because they are not what you really mean at all? But rather, you root for conquest of Israel? What kind of peacefulness is that, Mohideen? Do you see my point? You are either confused in your thinking, or worse, you are intellectually dishonest. Which are you? Ivan | ||
| Iran Speaks |
Ahmadinejad opponents lead in local elections Support for moderates, reformers a blow to Iran's hard-line leader http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16266217/ From the Alliance of Patriots To The Iranian People We salute your steps towards regaining freedom from the domination of the Jihadists. Your road ahead is long and hard but by your courage you have sent a message within the contraints a dictatorship has imposed upon you that has been heard around the world. In a system built to ensure control of society is maintained by a brutal dictatorship your yearning for freedom has been expressed. Its voice was muffled by the repressive government you endure, yet it was still heard by those that listen. You are begining to learn how to regain control of your government, now you need to expand your efforts and learn the lesson the Alliance of Patriots have taught the Republicans in the United States. We salute you. My god bless and sustain in the long fight that is to come. The Alliance of Patriots | ||
| Anon |
http://www.connecticutsar.org/index.htm The link posted above is for the freedom seeking people of the world and the Iranian underground movement. The link is to a site that honors the contributions of those patriots that fought in the American Revolution from my home state. In the battle against the republican minority that sought to rule the majority against its' will and sought to disregard the will of the people, a modern Alliance of Patriots rose to lead the fight against this rule. Using all the skills we had in politics, information warfare and guerilla warfare we coordinated a campaign of disclosure of the truth targeted against the ruling Republican minority from the shadows to help bring it down. We have now turned our attention to Iran and extend a hand in friendship to the Iranian Underground and offer them advice and technical assistance. We wish the Iranian's the best of luck and will pray for them as they seek to bring about change from within. A document that has meaning on this discussion is posted below. I note that we followed the letter and spirit of this document in our fight against the Republicans. We brought about peaceful change within the limits set by this document and our government and its institutions still stand, abeit forever changed. For those that seek peaceful revolution. Learn from us and read the words below Ed Chesky IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures. He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury: For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies: For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
You are either confused in your thinking, or worse, you are intellectually dishonest. Which are you? Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 09:39 am: Ivan Neither; as a lover of peace I just point out the potential flash points. If I do not love peace why should I invest my time and energy to write http://deentech.com/Israel_can_exist.aspx and publish it in my web? I love all humanity: God does not favor one group over another in this life. As long as the Suez Canal remains as it is, I cannot ignore the wish of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, that the Arabian Peninsula is free of non-Muslims. However, once the Suez Canal is converted to Suez Lake, God willing, I would be the first supporter of Israel being where she is. Do not ask me to take sides; also do not expect that. | ||
| Ivan |
Mohideen, then be more careful how you word your position on the Israel-Arab conflict, because the way you had written them before makes you sound anti-Israel and pro-Hamas/Hezbollah. And if you do that, you make yourself out as a war-monger, which I am sure is not your design. Though I can't do this now, pressed for time, I will explain to you what is wrong with your current position on Suez, when I have more time, because I think it explains a lot about your belief and your political leanings. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061220/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq === But Cichowski added that U.S. troops would continue to provide support if called upon. "We will be quite literally just up the road." === This is the worst thing we could do to our boys and girls. They would be inside their barracks and be 'sitting ducks' for RPG attacks. Once the Iraqis have assumed responsibility we should move away, preferably return to America. | ||
| Naive |
It seems the site is in its own war vs. spam attacks. Alas the real bain of humanity. Naive | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=17002 === They are dealing with Iranian exiles who tell them that we would be greeted as liberators. At the least, they are certain that an air strike on Iranian nuclear facilities would be a great and easy success. Given the failure of this group to execute even the most basic elements of any of their policies, it is hard to have a lot of faith in that confidence. Finally, they presumably believe that Israel will deal with Iran if America can't. ... Political engagement and diplomacy, however, do not preclude military action as a last resort. They do assure that war will indeed be a last resort. And they offer possibilities for long-term change, such as strengthening the hand of domestic reformers. === I have extracted the important aspects for emphasis. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Is this perception management? http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-troops23dec23,0,2095230.sto ry?coll=la-home-headlines === Top U.S. military commanders in Iraq have decided to recommend a "surge" of fresh American combat forces, eliminating one of the last remaining hurdles to proposals being considered by President Bush for a troop increase, a defense official familiar with the plan said Friday. === Gates was a member of the ISG that recommended speedy withdrawal. Now, after becoming Defence Secretary, Gates goes to Iraq and gets recommendation for a troop surge. Did he really go there to get their opinions or tell them that the Commander-in-Chief desires a 'troop surge' so that they would revise their opinion and now recommend a troop surge? The following advice from the Joint Chiefs is worth consideration: === Conway suggested that adding more troops now would mean the military would be less ready to deploy in the future. "You better make sure your timing is right," he said. "Because if you commit the reserve for something other than a decisive win or to stave off defeat, then you have essentially shot your bolt." === | ||
| Ivan |
Ahmadinejad rejects UN sanctions - BBC News http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6207319.stm "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the resolution passed on Saturday was a "piece of paper" adding that the 15 countries who voted in favour would regret it. This exemplifies this little man's grand design for a nuclear Iran without understanding that he lives in a global society with which he must co-exist by agreement rather than by confrontation. A grand weapon like the atomic bomb in the hands of his ayatollah masters is like placing a large loaded gun in the hands of a simple child, which through its immature reason will think itself now master of its own destiny, and the world's destiny. But the immature mind does not understand. Without the cooperation of the whole community within which it must live, our planet Earth, such a weapon placed in its hands is irresponsible and ultimately disastrously dangerous. Will the world standby with an ayatollah powered nuclear weapon arsenal in the hands of Iran, while they await their suicidal promise of the Madhi? Is this not an open invitation to war on Iran, by Iran? Once upon a time, only some decades ago, another little minded man wanted to rule the world and pursued war; his name was Adolph Hitler. The world stood by, and then it was too late, and a great war followed. Millions died. Is history unlearned doomed to repeat? He truly should pay attention to that "piece of paper" signed by 15 countries, or the rest of history will play out in a most unfortunate way. I say that Ahmedinejad is a "war monger" by his little mind's logic unable to ascertain the immensity of his failure to live in peace with the world. We will not sit idle on this one, like we did last time, or the numbers of war dead will be so horiffic our distant progeny will condemn us through all history. History will judge us harshly if we fail here. Peace on Earth will prevail. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
We will not sit idle on this one, like we did last time, or the numbers of war dead will be so horiffic our distant progeny will condemn us through all history. Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 11:25 am: Ivan The right approach is not to have nuclear weapons anywhere. If the Mullah is an immature child for the members of the 15 nations, the leaders of some of these 15 nations are immature children for some of the mankind. Don't you think no immature child should be given a gun? Incidentally I do not expect any civilized survivor thinking of history in a future war. For all we know we would restart the whole of mankind as it happened from South Africa. We have no history preceding the ancestors of South Africa. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2006/12/27/2003342206 === Writing in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the professor of geography and environmental engineering said Iran's oil problems have the potential to topple the clerical regime. === If the above analysis is true, Iran is possibly developing technology to export 'energy-grade' uranium rather than use it for domestic consumption alone. Russia needs to look at this aspect. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-suburbs27dec27,1,2509087.st ory?page=2&coll=la-headlines-frontpage === Haidar is eager to participate in the demonstrations, and tells his girlfriend he is prepared for clashes with government troops. "She said, 'Why?' " he says. "I said, 'Because I want to build a country for you and for me, where we can hold our heads up because we are Shia.' " === What a pity! He is a 'Shia' and not a 'Muslim.' Such sentiments allow the war mongers to instigate a bloodbath across the Middle East between the Sunni and Shia Muslims. It is in the interest of the rulers to sustain the divide between Sunni and Shia. It is not in the interest of the people. Both worship the same God. It is time they sink minor differences and unite as people. | ||
| Ivan |
Indeed, what a pity he is a Muslim and not Lebanese. Why have labels that divide clans, when clans can unite? All the clans of the Earth are the people of one planet. The names are insignificant. It is how we approach each other that matters. To stop wars the clans must unite and stop attacking each other, no matter their names, religion, ethnic origin, race, nationality, political bias, etc. This all comes down to this: Do they want to interact through agreements, or through coercions? War mongers want coercions over agreements, and for them only one agreement matters: surrender of the other. This is a recipe for only more war. How can Lebanon know peace when a clan exists within it that wants the other to surrender to their coercions? Violence is then the end product, always, no matter their label. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Indeed, what a pity he is a Muslim and not Lebanese. Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 10:22 am: Ivan Eventually there should be only one label: human. Given the innumerable divisions that exist now, I attempt to unite 'bottom up.' Unite those with minimal differences first before we could attempt the unity of diametrically opposed groups. See http://www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=nations+despise+each+other&transla tor=2&search=1&start=0&submit=Search What Ivan desires is the same as what the Holy Quran desires. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Grand stupidity =============== http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/806603.html === Egypt transfered a large quantity of arms and ammunition to Palestinian Authority security organizations in the Gaza Strip on Wednesday, with Israel's approval. === Abu Mazen has already announced the elections. The street would decide. The street is not in favor of Israel. By arming and financing Abu Mazen Olmert is committing a blunder as the street would identify Abu Mazen as a slave of Israel and he is sure to be defeated because of that perception. Once Abu Mazen goes Olmert would be faced with a leader who might side with Hamas if not a member of Hamas. Getting Hamas leaders elected in place of Abu Mazen and the current Prime Minister of Palestine is a sure ticket to rebellion inside Israel for Olmert's head. | ||
| Friendly Ghost |
Your mind is turing to dark thoughts Mohideen and I wonder if your wish for an end to your percieved acts of Israeli agression is clouding your asessment of the situation. Israel is the only stable democratic technologically advanced nation in the middle east that provides protection for the minorities living within its borders. They do not have to pay a tax to worship as they will and are offered access to political power. This is despite the acts of terrorism, wars and hatred directed against them by the Islamic Nations of the Middle East. To say there will be a rebellion inside Israel for Olmert's head is a bit much. Egypt which has the largest population in the Middle East, wants Hamas crushed as much as Israel does and is likely working tacitly with the other Sunni States in the region to bring this about. What we are seeing as Ed and Ivan have said is likely the beginning of a Sunni Alliance to crush the Shia movements of Hamas and Hizbolla. A goal I support. I had coffee today with Ed and talked of many things. One of them was the fact that one of the reasons he walked out of the Analysis Center he was working with in England was that they knew and were covering up the fact that prisoners were being waterboarded and subject to interrogation methods in black prisons that violated the Geneva Conventions. This information was close held by the counter terrorism section of the unit he was assigned to but leaked to him by former CIA agents that disagreed with the practices. He then used this information and opposition to these practices to help bring down the Republican Government without a shot being fired and within the bounds of the laws of this nation. He also told me that these paractices were approved at the highest levels of the DOD and CIA and had the blessing of the White House. The justification they used was that they feared these terrorists were going to bring about another 911 and all means had to be used to prevent this. As to me at thsi juncture I have little regard for the Arab Street and would just as soon leave it to be governed by dictators and strongmen backed by police and secret services as in my opinion bringing the Arab street and its people to some acceptance of normal rules of civilization is waste of resources and lives. We made many mistakes in this current war and I think its time to end it. From my perspective the people of Islam should be left to their own devices and allowed to descend into civil war. Until they purge themselves of their demons of hatred and ignorance they are not worth even talking to. For my part I am now done with this discussion. I leave it respecting all religions except Islam. I honor Ed for his moral stance and abilities to bring about peaceful change. He is an example of what a true Christian is and is light years beyond anything the Islamics can put on the great game board. In the Korean War during the dark days when we retreated down the country rumors circulated we were going to use atomic weapons rather than accept defeat. In this current was I would nuke the Arab cities and leave them smoking piles of rubble as an example of what fate awaits those that regress and would drag civilization down. Friendly Ghost | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
... the beginning of a Sunni Alliance to crush the Shia movements of Hamas and Hizbolla. Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 09:00 pm: Friendly Ghost I thought the Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, was a Sunni group. May be I am wrong!!! | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/30/hussein/ === The judge said Hussein appeared "totally oblivious to what was going on around him. I was very surprised. He was not afraid of death." === Saddam Hussein was executed on Friday, the day that millions gathered in Arafat as part of Hajj. What a day for Saddam to meet his Creator, Allah SWT! Incidentally the mourning for President Ford, the accidental President, also started on Friday. Is there any link in executing Saddam on that day? Any attempt to divert attention of the Americans from Saddam's execution? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
God Almighty willing, I hope to offer the Congregational prayers of the 'Festival of Sacrifice' today. Some other Muslims in Washington, DC offer the same prayer tomorrow. Muslims in Chennai, Tamilnadu, India plan to offer the prayer on January 1, 2007. What a grand coincidence. Muslims celebrate along with Christians. I offer my felicitations to all on this occasion. | ||
| Ivan |
Will this help peace in the Middle East? Olmert Recognizes PA Flag http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=118316 "Many in Israel and abroad were surprised when the flags of the State of Israel and the Palestinian Authority flew side-by-side for the first time, at the official Prime Minister’s Residence." Each new attempt to reconcile peace by Israel is rebuffed with violence by Palestinians. The greatest obstacle to peace in the Middle East is Arab Muslim hatred of the Jews combined with their political Islamic belief that none but Islam may be in the Saudi Arabian peninsula. Once conquered by Islam, though these lands once served the peoples of many faiths, including Jews and Christians, these lands may not revert back to anything but Islam, by the Koranic belief system. Of course, this is totally false, since no part of Earth belongs exclusively to any religious group of humanity, no matter what their belief system tells them. Earth is ours, universally, which includes the right for Jews and other faiths to live peacefully in the Middle East. Peace on Earth will come when Mohammed's followers of his belief system will accept this simple truth. Mohideen, as Friendly Ghost said above, do not let your judgment of Middle East events be clouded and darkened by fear hatred of the other on Arab street, in this case the other being Israel. Give Olmert and all who desire peace a chance. Ivan | ||
| Anon |
I see the Friendly Ghost has departed this Website. He was nice old man that I chatted with over coffee. We spoke of many things, experiences in wars the wounded and the like. Two soldiers talking about what they did in the wars. Friendly Ghost was at the Chosen Resevoir and lost two fingers to frost bite. I have attached a link to a site that discusses that Battle. The Chosen Few http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/chosen_few.aspx He is retiring now and moving to Florida. The New England cold he told me brings back memories of the fight at the Chosen Resevoir. During his war his army of 15,000 Allied troops faced 120,000 Chinese. Surrounded and cut off they fought their way out during the middle of brutal winter decimating the Chinese forces in the process. Such is the type of man that watched my back. In the brotherhood of arms we have all seen things that will haunt us to the day we die. For Hamas and Hizbolla and their terrorist supporters. You have nothing that can face us or stand against us in open battle. For me and Friendly Ghost we consider you nothing but cowards and scum that hide behind women and children and use the simple minded as human bombs. In your rage your burn Churches kill the innocent and blow up buildings because you are to weak and ineffective to meet us in open combat. Friendly Ghost and his brothers in arms took on a force ten time their size and destroyed it in a march to the sea. In the world of Islam you have nothing can match us on the Battlefield. You dream of ancient days and claim victory following defeat in battle because you can not accept the loss of face such a defeat brings. Men like Friendly Ghost and I pity you and your people. We do not fear you. We and our children have done things you can never hope to match. Like Friendly Ghost I am tired of this conversation and am leaving this Website. I may read it from time to time. I came here to prove point of what could be done and what is possible. Osama claims through his propaganda machine to have fough through Soviet Nerve gas during his war. As I sit here with 1200 times the normal dose of nerve agent in my blood stream, confirmed by Duke University and a study published in a journal of Toxicology, I laugh at the claims of Osama and his propaganda machine. I and my family are decendents from the high kings of Christendom and as is documented by the historians have walked with and faced the Saints of Christianity. We have fought with been honored by and served William the Conqueror, Napoleon, Richard the Lionhearted, Joan of Arc and a host of others. Such is what decided to play a game on the internet and wears a Cletic Cross ring. When I stand in St. Peter's square it is to remind the Christians what stand in the shaddows to defend them in this war against terror and what these forces are capable of doing. Osama and his like would like to start a religious war. For them I sugguest you read the books of what we did in Korea and elsewhere. Should the full force and fury of Western Civilization be turned against the world of Islam, we would erase it from the face of the earth forever. Ed | ||
| Ivan |
Dear Ed, Friendly Ghost, thank you sincerely for all your contributions to these discussions. Here in my last post on Tony Blair's article: http://www.humancafe.com/discus/messages/88/168.html?1167501178#POST2936 , I discuss what challenges lay ahead. We all must fight against this global scourge which through threats and violence wants to tear down our human freedoms and the many wonderful accomplishments of the past centuries, what is our free modern world today. Your comments will be missed, but please do stop by and read from time to time. Our battle had just begun, as more and more people around the world begin to truly understand that what is at stake is not only their freedoms and way of life, but the freedoms of generations yet unborn. I had this in mind when I first penned Habeas Mentem, that the world's freedoms would one day be challenged as never before. We will prevail. Though this past year's discussions had much focussed on what is Islam, and in the ways that theological fundamentalism is a threat to our freedoms, it is not the only discussion on Humancafe. We also value the joys and celebration of life, the scientific accomplishments of humankind, and justice for all human beings equally throughout the globe. We live on a small planet, but now better connected internationally by communications and travel than ever before. And in this is our redemption, that we now see ourselves as one community of humanity throughout the planet. We at Humancafe recognize this and celebrate it, so all are welcome to come and visit, to read or mine the depths of things said long ago, or just to sit and watch. And to all who had contributed, thank you from the depths of our hearts, for you had contributed from all parts of the world over the past 8 years the Cafe had been open. We hope to remain open for many more years to come, and to always archive all that was said, even if not open for new posts. Truly, with respect for the beauty of all humanity, the creations of all the arts and knowledge, and with the joy of being free and alive as human beings in this new Millennium, we salute you. You are all always welcome here. God Bless, in Peace, and best wishes for the New Year. Ivan, and editors, Humancafe | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Dear Friendly Ghost, and Ed Cheskey, It saddens my heart that an analysis linking the street and certain military actions that took place in the Middle East has hurt you both. It was never my intention to hurt any one, in particular neither of you. If an open apology would mollify your hearts, I tender such an apology. In analysis and discussions at times we do state things which seems true to us but might offend others. I stand by my analysis; however I apologize for the hurt that was caused. Do come back. I left some threads in Humancafe because I perceived that I am unwelcome unless I change my belief. I came back to other threads because I gain and hope my interaction offers gain. Please come back. We have no fight. All of us are fighting the 'war mongers.' Let us join hands. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Once conquered by Islam, though these lands once served the peoples of many faiths, including Jews and Christians, these lands may not revert back to anything but Islam, by the Koranic belief system. Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:48 am: Ivan The above is wrong. At the time of the death of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, he did not conquer all of the Arabian Peninsula. A part of the Arabian Peninsula was under the rule of Christians. So when Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, instructed about Islam being the only religion inside the Arabian Peninsula the correct conclusion is the one I draw: All places outside the Arabian Peninsula, irrespective of whether it came under Muslim rule or not, is for all religions. Just because the Muslims ruled a part of earth does not make that piece of earth to be Islamic always. Please do not fall for the clamour made by the war mongers. The Arabian Peninsula is the boundary within which Shariah alone can be implemented. Do not violate the boundary and give permission to war mongers to wage war all over the earth. Certain limitations are limitations on Muslims; do not let the war mongers among Muslims violate that boundary. Please. | ||
| Le Chef |
Don't forget...  War handicaps reason... so does hate. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
War handicaps reason... so does hate. Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 11:50 am: Le Chef True. Hatred initiates war. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Let us hope happiness overcomes hatred. Happy New Year to all. | ||
| Anon Anon |
Somali PM: Last Islamic stronghold captured Gedi offers amnesty to fighters, says 'warlord era in Somalia is now over' http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16417386/ A Christian nation waged a war in Somalia against the Jihadists and in doing so has retaken a nation from them. Ethiopia has taken a gamble and in doing so has advanced the cause of freedom under the banner of Judeau Christian civilization. Let us hope this success can be built upon Anon Anon | ||
| Naive |
To Anon Anon Careful with the wording "advanced the cause of freedom under the banner of Judeo Christian civilization". It sounds equally imperialistic. Might I suggest instead that you say, "A great triumph for human rights has occurred." It really doesn't matter that a "Christian nation" happened to carry it out. Naive | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Whom do Americans prefer: Olmert or Netanyahu? http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=2&cid=1167467638061&pagename=JPost% 2FJPArticle%2FShowFull === The diplomatic and PR effort: We must immediately launch an intense, international, public relations front focusing first and foremost on the US. The goal being to encourage President Bush to take up his specific promises not to allow Iran to arm itself with nuclear weapons. We must make it clear to the government, the Congress and the American public that a nuclear Iran is a threat to the US and the entire world, not only Israel. We must make it clear that it is in the utmost interest of the free world to prevent fundamental Islamic regimes from building an atom bomb. === The above appeal to rush to the support of Israel could be answered immediately by the US launching an attack on Iran or agreeing to such an attack by Israel resulting in the destruction of the centrifuges. Such an action would endanger the lives of our boys and girls inside Iraq as the Shia would join the Sunni in attacking our boys and girls. An immediate attack would strengthen Olmert and he would continue as the Prime Minister of Israel. Of course our boys and girls inside Iraq would suffer. All agree that it is years away for Iran to become nuclear. So delaying the attack by both USA and Israel by a few months until we can assure the safety and security of our boys and girls currently inside Iraq (whether they remain inside Iraq or move out of Iraq) would not result in any great harm to Israel. During that period, Iran might as well pose to have exploded a nuclear device causing confusion. Such confusion might lead to Olmert leaving the chair and possibly Netanyahu capturing the Prime Minister's chair in a subsequent election in Israel. The question for our Congress and the administration is: Are they so averse to working with Netanyahu in a future Israeli government that they should risk the lives of our boys and girls to prop Olmert? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Surge is of no use. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1573668,00.html === Whether or not the Bush Administration decides to send more troops to help secure Baghdad, it's widely agreed that the essence of the problem is political rather than military — unless Iraq's factions, including the government, are willing to reach a new accord, no amount of U.S. troops will be able to put Iraq back together. === For emphasis I repeat the last few words of the quote above: No amount of U.S. troops will be able to put Iraq back together. It would be wise on the part of Congress and the Senate to ensure that there would be no surge of troops inside Iraq. If Iraq has to disintegrate it is better to let it disintegrate than send more of our boys and girls in harms' way. | ||
| Anon |
Mohideen, I agree with you that the planned surge in troops is unlikely to bring peace to Iraq, without an accord between the two factions. In my house my wife's and my ancestors fought for hundreds of years over the issue of the Protestant reformation. As a result of our marriage two royal bloodlines along with the blood of the founding families of the United States put aside hundreds of years of dispute and merged into one tight knit family unit. One Branch was Protestant another Catholic. For my wife and I we follow the traditions of the Celtic Catholic Church that predated the great divides of the faith and the rise of the Roman Catholic Church. We attend services in other churches and mingle with the poor and downtrodden that the wealthly in this nation are disinclined to speak to and hold in contempt. Together our families in a distributed network based on a cell structure system linked via family connections control at our last estimate 450 million dollars in assests. It was this vast network, along with the network of the poor that I built, that also stood behind me when I took on George Bush along with the other founding families of the United States in the Great Battle to Bring down the Republican government that locked me out of the Military Industrial Complex by denying me a security clearence. With a few emails, phone calls within a network of family cells data is passed and political power based on wealth, contacts and ties to religous organizations is massed and brought to bear to help shape public opinion. The fury that my family holds with regards to the actions of the Bush administration is hard to measure but is reflected in the amount of support we put behind the democrats in the last elections. To bring peace to Iraq the Iraqis need to find people of heritage, skill and power similiar to my wife and I if they are to bring peace to that nation and heal its factions. By way of comparison I offer the following assessment of Osama's wealth from the Terrorism Research Center; Osama bin Laden may not be the wealthy terror financier once believed. Recent investigations into al-Qaida by the Sept. 11 commission and others have altered the once commonly held view that bin Laden's inheritance and massive fortune — estimated at $300 million at one point — were used to finance his operations. A network of businesses in Sudan, his base from 1991 to 1996, is also not thought to be backing al-Qaida. "There has been a revision of collective thinking," said Kenneth Katzman, a Congressional Research Service expert who has studied terror groups. "The new thinking is that bin Laden's fortune didn't really enter into al-Qaida that much or wasn't the driving force in al-Qaida." Some people thought I was kidding when I said my family was powerful. We do not live in the limelight like the other founding families but have stayed in the background for hundreds of years. Our families holding include factories, stores, small buisinesses, real estate, stock and bonds. When the bullies in the corporate world and in the federal government tried to crush me, I told them I would tell my family everything. Then based on my skill and years of military training they backed me with everything they had and we leaked every black secret of the Bush Administration to help bring it down. Such is the power that is availble to my wife and I when I travel to south africa church groups and their memberships will be briefed before my wife's and my arrival. Like Osama I can use religon as well. Such is the lesson about power and its use that I wanted to teach the President of the United States. Ed | ||
| A Friend |
Saddam's Hanging Reverberates Through the Middle East http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1573593,00.html?cnn=yes A good assessment of the impact that the hanging of Saddam had on the Middle East. In this new age religous extremists fight against the forces of civilization. Tim Mcvie, Koresh at Waco, Jim Jones, Osama and a host of others took up weapons and poison and shocked civilization to its core. The public generally fears religious exteamists. However, these exteamists are balanced by the like of Mother Terresa, Martin Luther King, Pope John Paul II, and a host of others. In Ed we find a man of deep religous convictions that would not be slienced for speaking about the corruption of the Intelligence Corps, its lack of due diligence, and abuse of prisoners. With no other outlet he turned to his family and the churches and church leaders and leaked the most damning secrets of the Bush Administration. Due to medical incompetance he was damaged by the military industrial complex. Yet despite this damage was still able to work 60 plus hours a week, spend 20 hours a week in university where he was able to achieve a GPA of 3.45. He took his case to the streets, the common people and the churches and for it he was persecuted. Martin Luther did a similiar thing hundreds of years ago, so did Saint John of Arc. I watched Ed walk through a Cancer ward in a hospital were his wife was recieving treatment. The dying men and women with the cross mark aim points on their bodies for the radiation beams reached out to him for comfort and smiled at him with, regardless of race or gender for giving them hope of that something better lays on the other side of death. That is what he did besides bring down the Bush adminsitration and what he was persecuted for by the intelligence corps, military industrial complex and private sector. A Friend | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.howestreet.com/articles/index.php?article_id=3547 === It now appears that the chances of Israel attacking Iran are over 75%. If this attack does transpire the world is going to be in for a massive oil shock and the fragile US market that is trying to deal with the collapse of the housing sector will truly tumble. === In Computer Science we use ‘round-off’ when converting numbers with fractions to integers. By that logic, 75% converts to 100%. That is, attack on Iran by Israel is imminent. The crucial question is when? Should the attack be in a matter of months or could it be delayed by more than a year to permit a peaceful change of regime in Iran? http://www.cjnews.com/viewarticle.asp?id=10929 === “It’s not impossible to prevent Iran from going nuclear,” he said, suggesting that sanctions might work, since Iran is vulnerable to economic pressure. His assessment of Iran’s vulnerability flew in the face of a recent prediction by the director of the Mossad, Meir Dagan, that Iran will be a nuclear power by 2009 or 2010. === Even though Meir Dagan’s assertion aims to show the ineffectiveness of the ‘economic sanctions’ on Iran, his estimate of when Iran could become nuclear is important. He would naturally advocate the earliest possible date Iran might become nuclear. Thus we do have 2 full years to bring about a change in the regime in Iran. Israel suffered rocket attacks by Saddam Hussein during the first Gulf War without retaliation. Israel did not retaliate on the request of her friend US. We need a few months to secure our boys and girls inside the turbulent Iraq. Is it unreasonable to expect that Israel would delay her attack on Iran at least until our boys and girls are safe? Israel as a true friend of US is expected not to attack Iran at least until we save the lives and limbs of our boys and girls inside Iraq. Do we hope that the friends of Israel in the new Congress and the changed Senate would impress upon Israel the advantage of delaying her attack on Iran? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/fde9f7a0-919d-11db-a945-0000779e2340.html === "I think the message that we are sending to everyone, not just Iran, is that the United States is an enduring presence in this part of the world. We have been here for a long time. We will be here for a long time and everybody needs to remember that - both our friends and those who might consider themselves our adversaries," he said. === What is Gates up to? Is he trying the Naval Bases as an alternative for Ground Bases? http://www.coastalpost.com/07/01/01_.html === For over six months, every appropriation bill has had language to the effect that no permanent bases are to be built. For instance, Rep. John Murtha in June placed this entry into HR 5631: "None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be obligated or expended by the United States government for a purpose as follows: (1) to establish any military installation or base for the purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United Stats Armed Forces in Iraq. (2) To exercise United States control over any oil resource of Iraq." On October 17, 2006, President Bush signed HR 5631. === So are we attempting to have floating permanent bases instead of Ground Bases? We do not send Aircaraft Carriers to London, or Paris, or Rome. They do visit these places and participate in joint exercises. But we do not station them in their region. That signifies friendship. To station Aircraft Carriers permanently near the Middle East indicates our perception that the Middle East needs to be controlled rather than supported. How would these addition of firepower near the Middle East signal the acceptance of the Iraq Study Group report? It seems Bush desires to attack Iran ignoring the ISG. And the irony is that Gates a member of the ISG would implement the defiance of Bush. It is indeed a pity that the blood of our boys and girls is of no concern to the current Commander-in-Chief! | ||
| Ivan |
Iranian official: If threatened, we will use nuclear weapons http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3348748,00.html This argument, if true, transcends religious differences, vaults over jihad ambitions, or Tehran's support of anti-Israel Hezbollah and Hamas, etc. This is a serious threat, because it then spills over into nuclear ambitions of other Mid East states, such as Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc., if true. I do not know it is true, since they speak with 'forked tongue', and it should not be taken at face value as justification for attacks against Iran. Though, it should be taken as an Alert to the potential danger the world will face if Tehran's rulers have the audacity to use their nuclear weapon against the state they vowed to destroy, Israel. Russia is playing a dangerous game by helping Iran develop nuclear energy. If the ayatollah state had not threatened the right of another state to exist, there would be less paranoia, but that is not the case, so we must be mindful and watchful of the potentially horrific coercions posed by them. If the Mid East is a volatile place, which we see it is, and if aircraft carriers tames this volatility, which it may or may not do, and if Iran proves its verbal belligerence with action, expect a strong response. Our men and women are up to the challenge if this should come to pass, though peace between nations is a better way. At this time, it will be how Iran calls it, whether it will be peace or war. Ivan | ||
| Moideen Ibramsha |
Though, it should be taken as an Alert to the potential danger the world will face if Tehran's rulers have the audacity to use their nuclear weapon against the state they vowed to destroy, Israel. Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 12:12 pm: Ivan Let us look at the statement from the Iranian official. From http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3348748%2C00.html === Iran's chief nuclear envoy Ali Larijani said on Friday that Iran is committed to the peaceful use of nuclear technology but warned the situation could change if his country is threatened. "We oppose obtaining nuclear weapons and we will peacefully use nuclear technology under the framework of the Nonproliferation Treaty, but if we are threatened, the situation may change," He told a news conference after two days of talks in Beijing. === The word used by Larijani is “obtaining” and not producing. It is well known that Iran is years away from producing a nuclear war head. So the threat from Larijani is that Iran would procure nuclear weapons and use them. So we should concentrate our efforts on identifying the potential market for the nuclear war heads that might be mounted on the missiles that Iran has. I believe a nuclear war head would be radioactive even when it is not activated. So we should concentrate our efforts on tracing movement of radioactive materials through satellites and intercept such movement if the movement is not authorized. We need not attack Iran and precipitate a war. I am worried that we might have a situation similar to the last Hezbollah – Israel war both sides blaming the other as the cause for the war. http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/features/article_1241015.php/Outsi de_View_Rumors_of_war === Rafsanjani warned the 'arrogant powers' (the United States and Britain) against launching a new crisis in the Middle East. 'They are creating problems for themselves and the region that will not be confined to Iran. This is a fire that could burn many others,' he went on. 'They are looking for a pretext.' === Indeed some seem to be looking for a pretext. From http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/osborne010707.htm === "Considering that the IRIB (Iranian government TV and Radio) has been repeatedly broadcasting a program focusing on the reasons why the al-Mahdi could arrive before the Spring Equinox (March 20, 2007). and in conjunction with an accute awareness that a chaotic world and apocalyptic war is exactly what Ahmade-Nejad and his clique want, this report about an Israeli preemptive nuke strike might be designed to make Ahmadi-Nejad, Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi (Ayatollah Khamenei's successor in my opinion) to feeling just froggy enough to go ahead and jump prematurely. "Make no mistake--if Iran acts preemptively and hits Israel, say Tel Aviv, then the Islamic world can kiss goodbye to Tehran, Damascus, Mecca and Medina and any iota of Islamic presence on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem from that day forward." === It is indeed stupid for any to think that they could force the hand of God. All that we know is that the Day of Judgment is coming. However when that day would arrive is known to God alone. None has the power to anticipate such a day and prepare for it. The above comment applies equally to all: those who expect the Mahdi and those who expect the descent of Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him. [The qualification son of Mary, peace be upon her, is used to describe the birth of Prophet Jesus, son of Mary, peace be upon them, to emphasize the immaculate conception; it is not used in connection with the descent.] From the Muslim perspective, Imam Mahdi leads Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him in the Morning Prayer just after the descent. So the day that Iranians and the Neocons are looking for is probably the same. If the Iranians actually believe that the Mahdi would reveal himself before March 20, 2007 they are wrong. What I perceive is that such statements are made possibly to enact another Black-Op now on the Israeli soil to blame Iran and go ahead with the war. I know there would be howls that I subscribe to conspiracy theories. I better be an ignoramus and avoid war than be a wise man and see mankind destroyed. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/12/wiraq212.xml === Sen Joe Biden, the committee chairman, said that Mr Bush's Iraq plan would fail because, like the Vietnam war, it had no support. "No foreign policy can be sustained in this country without the informed consent of the American people. They've got to sign on." Several erstwhile Bush loyalists within his party defected during the day. Congressman Ric Keller said he would have backed the plan three years ago but the time for such a fresh initiative had passed. "At this late stage, interjecting more young American troops into the crossfire of an Iraqi civil war is simply not the right approach. We are not going to solve an Iraqi political problem with an American military solution." === The American public is not expected to support any escalation of hostilities in the Middle East. So there seems to be no support for an attack on Iran by America. That leaves Israel to take action. We hope Israel restrains herself to permit a peaceful change of regime in Tehran. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
An analysis worthy of a read. http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20070111/cm_huffpost/038364 | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Here we consider another aspect of war handicapped reason: future war. http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/dtpl4f9WjwSKfK/World-of-Warcraft-Wows-8-Mill ion-Subscribers.xhtml === "World of Warcraft," the massively multiplayer online role-playing game, has reached the 8 million subscriber mark. Since debuting in North America in November 2004, "World of Warcraft" has become the most popular MMORPG in the world. The franchise is available in seven different languages and is played on at least four continents. ... Players navigate the game and face friends, foes, dangers and rewards as they discover that the demons they thought were vanquished have returned to renew their terrible Burning Crusade -- and the battle is on. === What mentality develops in the players? Can we say killing gives pleasure? Once a sizeable teen population is exposed to pleasure through killing, it is very easy to brainwash them and recruit them to war efforts. Is there a way we could ween the teens away from the 'kill-for-pleasure' syndrome? | ||
| Ivan |
Games, war games, sports, competition, are all only games. There is no 'pleasure in killing' when playing games, unless those games, like ancient Roman gladiatorial games, actually involved killing. Future wars are not determined by games, but by the contentiousness of individuals who are in power, and have the power to sway the masses to shun understanding and agreement, to aggressively push their agenda on others, to generate a violent response from others. Wars are power. Games are not power. The only 'brainwashing' evident is from power hungry individuals who want to overpower others through coercions, by any means, including behavioral psychological means. That is not a game, but real war. Ivan | ||
| anonymous |
Games of war are a good defense against those who use war for power. More power to the war games, if they help fight the enemy. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
1989912%2C00.html,http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1989912,00.html === Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has warned that Iran's nuclear programme will be critical over the next 12 months and officials have hinted broadly that Israel might attack Iran unilaterally if the US does not act. === Would Iran become a nuclear power within weeks now so that an attack on Iran could be sold to the US public? It has already become months from years! | ||
| Ivan |
In the Guardian article referenced by Mohideen above; http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1989912,00.html "After the surge ... what next?" Mohideens' ref quote: "...Iran's nuclear programme will be critical over the next 12 months and officials have hinted broadly that Israel might attack Iran unilaterally if the US does not act." It was preceded by: "The reality is that the policy of turning the screw on Iran is being driven by Washington's wider regional concerns. Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has warned that... " And followed by: "The failure of Israel to disarm and destroy Iran's ally Hizbollah in Lebanon last year has also resulted in a resurgent Hizbollah, which is demanding a more dominant role in its country's governance and threatening to collapse the government of Fouad Siniora." Text should not be taken out of context to make it appear something it is not. The message here by Guardian is that Washington is calling the shots on Iran, and it is getting impatient with Iran's failure to respond, not that nuclear facilities are weeks away from attack, regardless of what Olmert or anyone said. Also that Israel is frustrated by its failure to topple Hezbollah, which is an Iranian puppet state-within-a-state in Lebanon. The issues are more complex than whether or not Israel is going to bomb Iran over its deeply burried and well hidden from view and attack bunkers in which they are salivating over an atomic bomb. Sheesh! Better to quote within context to avoid such confusions, or disinformations. | ||
| Ivan |
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This is the more likely strategy cum Iran: "Another straw in the wind is the lively public debate in Israel on the desirability or otherwise of a potential strike on Iran's nuclear sites - perhaps even using tactical nuclear weapons. Serious strategic analysts question if Israel really has the means to mount the kind of long-range, week-long air campaign that might be needed to significantly damage Iran's nuclear infrastructure. But the discussion, orchestrated by more hawkish voices, serves a purpose - again it is an effort to step up the pressure on Tehran." This is from BBC News: US flexes muscles towards Iran http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6264761.stm There's likely much talk at this time, without much action, for now. Just usual politics and posturing, on both sides, unlikely to lead to war, at this time. Ivan | ||
| Anon |
Application of the Concept of Mutually Assured Destruction to the War on terror. I propose that the MAD doctrine can be applied to the war on terror. If the consequences of failure to control terrorists are made to be substantial enough then it is highly likely that the current silient Islamic Majority can be moved to action to suppress and control terrorist movements. Of and by itself MAD can not work unless it is also tied to a policy of engagement and enconomic/social/culteral development. However, without threat of consequence such policies of engagment are not likely to work. For example should terrorist and their sponsors escalate attacks to an unaccptable level then those personnel, sponsors, and facilites involved in such activities should be open to attack under the MAD doctrine. For example if a nuclear weapon is used by terrorists or terrorist nation states then the population of those states should be fully aware of the fact that we will retalliate with similiar or like device(s) against all of those targets involved in conducting such an attack. This may include the targeting of an entire network of religous institutions that actively supported such an attack. Thoughts on the rational application of the MAD doctrine to the War on Terror would be appreciated. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
For example if a nuclear weapon is used by terrorists or terrorist nation states then the population of those states should be fully aware of the fact that we will retalliate with similiar or like device(s) against all of those targets involved in conducting such an attack. Ed Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 09:17 am: Anon MAD is nothing other than an application of the Law of Equality. The Muslims are told that to forgive is better than MAD. See http://www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=law+of+equality&chapter=&translato r=2&search=1&start=&records_display=10&search_word=all | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
A party performing a hostile act and blaming it on another is not uncommon. Indeed during the early days of our engagement in Afghanistan the local rivalries were played out using our fire power. What do we make of the following? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/17/wterror17.xml === A leading member of the clerical elite has said that Teheran's influence in Iraq is the most serious threat facing their kingdom. "Iran has become more dangerous than Israel itself," said Sheik Musa bin Abdulaziz, the editor of Al Salafi magazine. "The Iranian revolution has come to renew the Persian presence in the region. This is the real clash of civilizations." === Given this level of animosity could we rule out an Arab committing an act and blaming it on Iran? Are we capable of identifying the real culprit in such a development? | ||
| Ivan |
Who is to blame for the violence in Iraq? Fear. This from the article explains the fear: "Saudi Arabia watched in horror as Shia Muslim leaders, many of them beholden to Teheran after years of exile there, assumed power in Baghdad following the overthrow of Saddam Hussein." The rift between Shi'i and Sunni is loaded with fear, both sides fearing and loathing each other, and blaming the other. Reading Aslan's "No god but God" gives an insight into the ancient Arab cultural rivalries, by example, the common poison amongst warring tribes. The real question is, how do we remove the fear so Shi'i and Sunni can learn to live in peace? Is it possible without bloody conflict, or worse, nuclear war for the region? BTW, why would cleric Sheik Muzza say Iran would be more dangerous than Israel? More fear to spread around? How is Israel dangerous now to the situation in Iraq? I don't get the connection... Maybe somebody else can explain it to me, why or how Israel is involved in the Shi'i and Sunni wars? We need more stories like this: Arabs who saved the Jews Clip: "You had examples of government officials warning Jews that the SS was going to come and arrest them. You had examples of government officials providing protection. I also tell stories of Arabs whose unusual kindness for Jews probably saved Jewish lives. It could be Arabs who took Jews into their homes after they'd escaped from bombed-out villages or Arab wet nurses who took in Jewish babies because Jews were at the bottom rung of the ration ladder." How do we break the fear? Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/world/asia/19china.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&ei=5 094&en=f9cca6749a53bb61&hp&ex=1169182800&partner=homepage&oref=slogin === Michael Krepon, co-founder of the Henry L. Stimson Center, a group that studies national security, called the Chinese test very un-Chinese. “There’s nothing subtle about this,” he said. “They’ve created a huge debris cloud that will last a quarter century or more. It’s at a higher elevation than the test we did in 1985, and for that one the last trackable debris took 17 years to clear out.” Mr. Krepon added that the administration had long argued that the world needed no space-weapons treaty because no such arms existed and because the last tests were two decades ago. “It seems,” he said, “that argument is no longer operative.” === There is concern about space debris to be created by the space missiles of China. In the same article we also find: === The administration’s laser research is far more ambitious than a previous effort by the Clinton administration to develop an antisatellite laser, though the administration denies that it is an attempt to build a laser weapon. The current research takes advantage of an optical technique that uses sensors, computers and flexible mirrors to counteract the atmospheric turbulence that seems to make stars twinkle. The weapon would essentially reverse that process, shooting focused beams of light upward with great clarity and force. === Pray tell me won't there be debris when a laser destroys a satellite? Remember we would not use a sledge hammer to drive a nail. All that the laser need do is inactivate the enemy satellite creating a really big chunk of space debris. How do we break the fear? Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 09:53 am: Ivan We are sure to be free of fear once Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him descends. All that we try is to achieve that state before that time. Fear would be banished only when there is a single government for the whole of humanity. I know many abhor that idea too. So for the present there would be pockets of bloodshed among mankind. How about evolving peace ignoring the war-mongers? Let the war-mongers annihilate each other. The pity is modern warfare is not limited in space or in time. The effects of a nuclear attack transcends space and time. We are truly in a fix. | ||
| Anon |
http://homepage.mac.com/tacomaboy/iMovieTheater5.html The link posted above is to a movie of the Vinnell Arabia bombing. I post it in memory to my friends and the gentle service workers from the Philipines on the Vinnell Arabia compound that died at the hands of Al Qaeda. I did my best to warn them and DOD of an attack and penetration of the Vinnell Arabia compound and a DSS agent took my words of warning and threw them in the garbage during my security clearence interview at the JSIMS WIM office at the Lockhead Martin Facility in Orlando Florida. I spoke to the men that were responsible for this bombing and shared bread with them. I also spoke to the Imam at the Mosque they worshiped in on the compound and warned him of the retaliation that was to come. And now the Middle east lays on edge of a firestorm that Al Qeada set. Edward A. Chesky Jr Major, USA Military Intelligence Corps RET | ||
| Anon Anon |
http://www.lakesgc.co.uk/news9905/panam103.jpg In memory of the victims of Panam 103 Anon Anon | ||
| Anon |
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060914-darfur-video.html The link posted above is to a site that talks about the Crisis in Dafur. It includes a video of the region. While in JAC Molesworth I had a talk with the Senior Analyst a LTC in charge of Analysis. He and I served together at the National Training Center, he was passed over for command and hated me from that day forward. He played it safe since that day and made Lt Colonel. On the day I saw him I brought to his attention the crisis brewing and a intelligence message on the situation in Dafur and told him that a paper for the NATO Commander needed to be done on it. He sneered at me and told me he was going to forward it to CENTCOM and that since the area was on the boundry of responsibility bewteen the two commands that it would probably get lost in the shuffle and discarded. He was also a racist who cared less for inferior blacks or muslims. I told him that his action was bad form. He then went on to stab me in the back over my security clearence when I took the information to the Churches. For his lack of action the situation in Dafur was not identified early enough and left to fester until it reached a crisis point. For the dead in Dafur. Now you know why they raised the flag of St George on the Highway outside JAC Molesworth and all the contractors that were working on the building would walk in gripping their hammers and wrenches and looking at the staff while I was there. The people of England working men and women stood behind me during that fight at JAC Moelsworth. They wanted to know what was going on and I told them and the Churches about that and the interogation methods being used at Guantonimo that violated the Geneva Convention and laws of war. Ed | ||
| Anon |
Over the course of 24 years I have walked on most of the continents of this planet. During my time on this earth I have served both the Church and the State with a deep repsect for the seperation of Church and State. My personal belief system is built around the philosophy embraced in the Celtic Catholic teachings. As result of my military service I have helped save thousands of lives and helped free millions from the horrors of tyrany and oppression. I have also as part of my military service helped kill tens of thousands. I was trained in interrogation tactics by men that had once been tortured in the line of duty. They understood torture and violation of the Geneva Conventions in the name of expediency is omething that would forever tarnish this great nation that was built on a respect for life and liberty. Because of this when faced with evidence of such abuses of people held in our custody, I had no other choice but to fight it with all the tools at my disposal. To that end I pledged my life, property and liberty and took my case to the people and the churches. By grace of a rare genetic sequence I was able to survive damage to my central nervous system during the battle to bring the truth out for the people to judge. As a result of those actions and the actions of thousands of others we are now having an open honest debate over the nature of the tactics we employ in the war against terror. Come may what will, I am content with my actions and know that they were morally correct IAW the constitution of the United States and the Philosophy of Jesus Christ as promulgated by the ancient Celtic Christians. I am a firm beleiver of freedom of religion and the right to believe what you will so long as it hurts no other. In my personal belief system I believe that their are many paths to God and that along all of them you will in your journey find Jesus the Christ and others. I truely hope that the people of Islam put down the sword and take up the Koran and debate its meaning in a civilized mannor. However I believe that such a thing will not happen for a long time to come. It is well that we close this thread as we have reahed an impass on the dialog about how to change the mindset of the people of Islam. I have posted much biological, earth science and geometric data on this site in an effort to stimulate the exchange of ideas and get people to think out of the box about what is possible. I hope from time to time in the future to continue to post the results of my research here to continue to stimulate the exchange of ideas Until then My best Ed | ||
| Ivan |
The closure reached on Islamic discussions will not close this thread, however, since the topic of failed reason in war is larger than the political aspects of Mohammed's religion. Where the discussions transcend this impasse, of why put in safing mode, whether or not it is about religion, or war, or humanity and sciences; all discussions are still on the table. So only specific threads dedicated to Islam discussion will be safed, for now. This is not any negative reflection on our friend Mohideen, who put so much thought and soul into these discussions; rather, it is that the topic had far too much dominated our time and effort, and it is a 'dead end' issue, we need to move on. There is a common element to our humanity that will win, that is vicotrious in war, often when we least expect it. I had just watched the video Karol: A Man Who Became Pope (2005), which is very good and takes us in fictionalized form from his young days throught the war years under Nazism, then under Russian Soviet times of oppression, and finally the Vatican where, surprisingly, he is elected Pope, as Pope John Paul II. There was a recurring theme to his life, that love endures all, no matter how horrible the times. Love endures evil people, or evil ideologies and regimes, those that imprison peoples souls and minds, trying to break down that love. But those regimes are temporary, and in order not to become like them, not to succumb to their evil controls over the soul, love must be preserved, during the hardest times of war, or peace, when attrocities and injustice reign, that is the greatest test. Love endures, and that is the real victory, because it is eternal, while all the rest is temporary. (It is for this reason, this human love, that words are more powerful than guns.) Let's keep all ideas open, except those that hate the love, because they really do not count at all here. All human beings are subjects of love, and able to love, and that is how we make a better world, of peace and love for all humanity. Here is the war issue at hand today: To fight or not? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6279107.stm How is it to be resolved, reasonably? Can it be? Where can love win over hate and fear? These are the big issues today, as they had always been. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
I am happy that this thread would not close soon. The following article is very important for all of us to read, digest and implement. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=RUD20070119&arti cleId=4524 === Imagine the effectiveness of the, repeated over and over and over and over, for weeks and months, by authorities whom we are trained to trust, providing lots of information that coherently fits with the false claims. For example, The Independent article quoted President Bush using the three times: "We will disrupt the attacks on our forces. We will interrupt the flow of support from Iran and Syria. And we will seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq." There are in fact attacks on US forces (but done by anti-Iranian Sunni insurgents), and there are in fact networks providing advanced weapons for these attacks (but coming from pre-war Iraqi caches and pilfered from US supplies). Those two true facts serve to add coherence and believability to the unsubstantiated claim about "the flow of support from Iran and Syria" for which there is in fact no evidence. Thus we come to confidently believe something is there that is not there. === May God help us to reject such illusionary pseudoreal statements issued and avoid unjust wars. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Dangerous postures! http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-01-22-voa26.cfm === The Security Council has set a February 21 deadline for Iran to comply with its demands or face the possibility of further sanctions. ... "I think its defeat in the Security Council in December, and the prospect of further sanctions and the actions that my government has taken in Iraq over the past three weeks against them, the stationing of our carriers in the Persian Gulf, and now to see that even Russia and China are voting against them, Iran is no longer on the offensive, it is on the defensive and we need to keep it on the defensive," added Burns. === http://newsblaze.com/story/20070122141538payn.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.htm l === Tehran's next response has just taken place. RIA has reported Tehran has prevented 38 IAEA inspectors from entering Iran to investigate its nuclear installations, most of which have never received any inspection. Tehran's cooperation was nothing more than extremely sophisticated deception, knowing all the time that they were planning and preparing (f)allout war and when Iran was ready it would begin, World War III would simply become more obvious. Tehran's foreign policy was never defensive and its military priorities are economic, which always ruled out Israel as being the primary target, though Israel has been the main target of discussion, a discussion Tehran created as a propagandist publicity smokescreen to deceive the West-India-Russia. === The following deadline could be the maximum delay for the war to begin. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/816062.html === The Iranian threat was at the forefront of the strategic dialogue between Israel and the United States that took place in Tel Aviv yesterday. ... The parties agreed to continue the dialogue through various channels in the coming months and to forge a joint policy on Iran. In May-June, the strategic dialogue will reconvene officially in Washington. === Does it mean that before May - June, 2007 the war would start? | ||
| Anon |
Mohideen Ibramsha, At this juncture overt war with Iran is low probability in the near term. Both sides in the conflict realize that should another war start it would escalate to include most if not all other Islamic nations. Al Qeada and the militant ideologs have, along with United States mistakes, inflamed tensions throughout the region distablized the entire area. Realists on all sides understand this and are doing their best to stabalize things while seeking to undermine the Iranian leadership by working with the Iranian underground movement. I have attached a link to a Christian Website and an article talking about Iran. http://www.persecution.org/suffering/newsdetail.php?newscode=4354 The last statement in the message is coded. It is from Jeremiah 17.7.8 NIV But blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD, whose confidence is in him. He will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit." This messge indicates contact has been made with the Iranian disodents and that action is underway to support their effort to undermine the current government of Iran. It is directed to me regarding via my comments with regards to my afinity for the tree of life motief on my ring. This article is from Australia and provides a good summary of the type of ability that the Current President of Iran has with regards to playing a group off against itself within a tolatarian system. It also demonstates the worldwide web I have spun using the internet and linking of Christian groups in a distributed network The Iranian President's ability to do this on the international stage is declining but he still has the ability influence the Islamic nations of the region through a combination of physcological warfare and regional military power. Another article on the same site does a good job at providing an analysis of the relative weakness of the Iranian president due to his actions and failure to manage the economy of Iran. A link to that article is provided below. http://www.persecution.org/suffering/newsdetail.php?newscode=4328 I have also just finished reviewing the Book Class 11 on the first CIA class of spies to go through training following 9/11. It took me less than five minutes to gist the book and evaluate the tactics techniques and procedures of our current groups of spies and then decypher the goals and current organizational direction of the CIA along with its planning stratigies, budgeting priorities, organizational culture and focus from the book. The book was jingoist in nature and focused on spy craft and high technology capabilites. It also illustrates why we are lossing the war on terror at this time. For it fails to account for the power of religion to move and shape events around the globe, influence people, past information via code speak and the nature of the world wide network that organized religion. I posted the coded message above to prove a point of the nature of the network I have constructed and the operation and support we are providing to Iranian disodents via religious contacts. I will not bore you with all the details of the discussions but they are extensive and wide ranging. My Best Ed | ||
| Anon |
http://www.fathom.com/course/21701735/index.html The link above is to a course developed by the RAND Corporation on the future of war and use of decentralized networks. I took this concept and used it to build a network that spans the globe using the internet and years of intelligence expertise, military operations experience and religous training to do this. This coupled to individual biological capabilities and predictive analysis ability formed the basis of my establishment of the network. The how and why I did it are posted above and elsewhere on this site and other sites on the internet. That it was done is a fact. That it is similar to Al Qeada is true but it is opposite in its orientation and makes no use of violence. Pyschological warfare and use of information are our tools. That this network exists falls into a gray area that makes many people uncomfortable and is the reason we maintain it as plausable denial entity and use code speak to communicate information through it via internet nodes and the media. I found the RAND Corporation information to be very interesting and right on the mark with regards to the nature of the organization I built and the future of decentralized warfare. For the international readers who visit this site. I suggest that you visit the RAND corporation site I posted and then think about the nature of the network I built and its global reach. Then I invite you to review the teachings and principles of Celtic Christianity to understand us and our aims that I posted below. We do not believe in forced conversion and respect all faiths and trust that God has a plan that includes everyone. This is not an endorsement of Celtic Christianity and is just posted to provide an understanding of our philosophy and motivating influences From time to time we lend a helping hand to people in need and provide advice and technical assistance such as we are doing in Iran and we did for the Democrats in the United States. We maintain relations with all groups including the gay and lesbian comunities whose support was instramental in toppling the Republican Congress. As the director of intelligence for the allied Alliance of Patriots which is our Celtic Christian pychological warfare and intelligence wing I feel it is appropirate to brief you on the capabilites, extent and philosophy of our organization. http://celtdigital.org/Christianity.html We are international in scope and are accepted as members of the mainstream Christian school of theology. As I and my wife travel around the Globe we hope to meet with you in person as we expand our network of contacts. Edward A. Chesky Jr Major United States Army Military Intelligence Corps Retired. And the CIA and DOD told me I was too old for the intelligence career field. | ||
| Anon |
The all-channel or full-matrix network, as in a collaborative network of militant peace groups where everybody is connected to everybody else. http://www.fathom.com/course/21701735/session2.html What my wife, I and my family and the Alliance of Patriots built is termed by the RAND Corporation as all-channel or full-matrix network. I sent a copy of briefing slides to a Major Defense contractor that was going to hire me outlining how I performed network and nodal analysis of Al Qeada's network that included the structure of a all-channel or full-matrix network two years ago. It was good enough to get me hired by the National Counter Terrorism Center, but the fanatics in the Bush adminstration shut me out. In response my family, my wife and I built a all-channel or full-matrix network. I expanded it at university undergoing a forced vocational rehabilitation program and demonstrated its ability to manipulate media feeds in near realtime using cell phones, internet connections, cut outs and contacts. In a back channel contact I had with a video editor and director at ESPN I was able to establish a dialog that included a discusion on how to use the ability to sequence commercials and use the sequencing those comercials to pass data in near real time on a global basis. I used to do this form of analysis for the DOD and Federal Government breaking Russian tactical communication networks for years using nothing but my mind and translated Russian Code Speak. To do it I had to correlate commuications, message traffic with nodal analysis to reconstruct the Russian tactical commuications structure. From that data I developed targeting plans using data from all types of sources. My wife and her family have concetrated more on expanding and including the evangelical christian worldwide movement into the network. Via sunday morning world wide evangelical broad casts we pass coded messages in sermons tied to the Bible as a one time code. Such is the nature of the all-channel or full-matrix network my family and I have constructed. Additionally we have expanded our contacts into the country western music industry and the film and movie industry and MTV as wwell as the spanish language sector of the media industry. We are also being to expand our network into the domestic and international finacial sector of the United States via various financial institutions as well as the state and federal government. Such is the caliber of the man and his family that George Bush denied a security clearance to. As I am currently under-employed and have decades of high level intelligence experience, and had access to all the secrets of the Federal Government, I decided to put it to use in support of a worthwhile project in association with a group of like minded individuals. Ed Chesky | ||
| Anon |
For the doubters as to the scale and nature of the network I built and turned against the republicans, I note that my career has included building two agent networks in support of military operations, once in Korea during Operation Team Spirit 86 and once again in Germany building upon an existing network to recover the deployment plans of the CZECH army and Soviet Central Group of Forces. Based upon that work and years of experience I have used the power of the internet to establish a all-channel or full-matrix network that penetrated the layers of White House denial and leaked the Bush administration's black programs that violated our constitutional rights to the world. At present my network is focused on Iran and is acting as bridge to the Iranian dissodents and is providing technical, moral and intelligence support to them. Like Al Qeada the network is decentralized and global in nature. We use coded messages that have meaning for individuals and are structured in specific ways in terms of syntax and grammer to flag our oranizations interest. That is what I did. From an internet cafe anywhere on the globe I can plug into the network, get situation updates, pass instructions and read coded messages. I carry a bible to refer to when deciphering coded messages and to issue further instructions. It is a document that can be found virtually anywhere on the planet. Its contents are the same from copy to copy and it makes an excellent one time pad. From time to time I will surface to provide situation updates and post the results of my research. Ed | ||
| Anon Anon |
http://www.fathom.com/course/21701735/session3.html What makes a network effective, besides organization? What holds a network together? What makes it function effectively? The answers involve much more than the organizational aspects mentioned above. While there is no standard methodology for analyzing network forms of organization, our familiarity with the theoretical literature and with the practices seen among netwar actors indicates that the design and performance of such networks depend on what happens across five levels of analysis (which are also levels of practice): Organizational level--its organizational design Narrative level--the story being told Doctrinal level--the collaborative strategies and methods Technological level--the information systems Social level--the personal ties that assure loyalty and trust. The strength of a network, perhaps especially the all-channel design, depends on its functioning well across all five levels. The strongest networks will be those in which the organizational design is sustained by a winning story and a well-defined doctrine, and in which all this is layered atop advanced communications systems and rests on strong personal and social ties at the base. Anon Anon | ||
| Anon |
Just a quick update before I start a Master's level class on Dealing with Domestic Violence. The kids at the University are thrilled by the victory against George Bush and the republicans. They have formed student cells to explore options for assisting in the overthrough of the Iranian regime using the tactics, techniques and procedures of peaceful revolution. They have established an exploritory committee to look at using the internet to assist that effort. Kids will be Kids Ed | ||
| Ivan |
Hi Ed, on your post about the video link to Vinnell compound, Riyadh, bombing http://homepage.mac.com/tacomaboy/iMovieTheater5.html was the young fellow, Erick, in the pictures of his world travels, Egypt, Italy, Japan, Saudi Arabia, someone you knew? He had been to many of the same places we had visited as well. I hope he wasn't injured, since he too, like you, was there. Thanks, Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Kids will be Kids Ed Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 04:17 pm: Anon May God protect them and grant them victory. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
we hope to meet with you in person Edward A. Chesky Jr Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 07:54 pm: Anon I look forward to learning the techniques of peaceful revolution. If the above message is for me, arrangements could be finalized through our common friend. | ||
| Anon |
Hi Ivan, No I did not know Erik he worked in a different division than I did. From what I can tell he is well. The video is well done and does good job of documenting the destruction of the compound. As for Mohideen Ibramsha, The tactics and techniques of peaceful revolution I used were modeled after Ghandi, Martin Luther King's and Nelson Mandela's use of the threat of credible force, peaceful confrontation, manipulation of the media to turn a spot light on issues, coupled to the leak of embarassing information that was sure to inflame anti-government sentiment and demonstration of government failure, lack of ability to react to a crisis or manage situations and information flow at critical times. I also used misdirection and pyschological warfare to tie up government forces and make them react. This included releasing information to one branch of government and having them investigate another over failure to take appropriate actions. I coupled this to accurate prediction of events to demonstrate my abilities and the discrimination and pressure that the federal government of George Bush was directing against people who opposed him and his plans. I also coupled this to a network of agents, religious institutions and organizations linked via the internet that used information they had and their abilities to conduct operations designed to bring down the republicans and tie up their resources. To do this I had to manage the entire battle space using my mind and ability to visualize the situation from battle and situation reports that were passed to me via coded transmissions. Mandela did the same thing from his cell in South Africa. As to meeting I hope one day to meet you during my travels. I will keep you and Ivan posted as I wonder around the country and the world and hopefully our paths will cross. One last note on Iran. Iran's Ahmadinejad under fire again http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp?NewsCode=49173&NewsKind=Cu rrent%20Affairs The above is to a dissodent cleric that opposes the president of Iran and his policies. He has borrowed a move from the peaceful revolution playbook and is engaging in opening moves of the great game of bring change from within. But blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD, whose confidence is in him. He will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit." Till then MY Best Ed | ||
| Anon |
Ivan, I have watched the video on the Riyadh bombing several times and still flash back to the way the innocent kind filipino's that worked on the compound treated all of us. They were kind, caring people. Much like PANAM 103, the Highway of Death during Operation Desert Storm and during missile strikes and deep attacks I help train and support over my years of military service. Over the course of my career I have many achievements and regrets. Death has long followed me across the globe. Where possible I have sought to bring warning of events to come and hope to have assisted in mitigating the loss of life. But for the current administration I would be working at NASA in a small way assisting with the development of a Moon Base, a step on the path to the stars. Perhaps one day I will again witness in person the launch of an orbitor. But for the federal government under this president I would have had the oportunity to dedicate my life to a project I have dreamed of since being a boy. My charting of the NASA gravity map and solution to the billiard problem where my last great accomplishments and I hope that they in some way assist in furthering the cause of science. As I embark on my new career path, I will like generations of my family before me be working with those broken by war, disease, storm, disaster and famine. Such is the blessing and curse that my family has had to live with for 1400 years of service to church and state. My Best Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit. Ed Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:16 pm: Anon True. Such a tree is vulnerable to floods. May God protect such trees by diverting the floods away from them. I wonder at the marvel of the rivers. Every river at its start gives clean refreshing water whatever be the source. All rivers eventually reach the single ocean. Likewise let us follow our different religions but work for peace. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
But for the federal government under this president I would have had the oportunity to dedicate my life to a project I have dreamed of since being a boy. Ed Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 06:57 pm: Anon As long as the Constitution of the USA is active, there is hope that this President would vacate the White House during January 2009. Let us hope that God helps us to have a get together on moon. | ||
| Anon |
Iranian lawmakers feared 'social upheaval' from sanctions: report Sunday, 21 January 2007 http://www.ncr-iran.org/content/view/2788/71/ A good article on intelligence that was leaked to western news services from inside Iran by oponents of the Iranian Government documenting Tehran's fear of social upheval. The authiticity of this document is supported by the recent loss of support the current president of Iran has suffered as indicated by the recent elections in Iran. Given this intelligence and the other assessments of Iranian internal dissent I have been recieving from a variety of sources we are being to get an appreciation for the internal instability of Iran. From this type of data we can begin to develop a strategy to bring down Iran like we did the Soviet Union, peacefully if our leadership reads the situation correctly. It is possible to turn the tide against Iran by building an alliance of Sunni Muslims and others to move against the agents and advisors that Tehran is deploying around the Middle East. A covert war like we fought in the Cold War where we engage the forces of the Iranian Intelligence Services supporting terrorism behind the scenes around the world, costing them large amounts of money, while undermining support for the Iranian government from within. My group of supporters is actually engaging with the Iranian undeground to undermine support for the government from within. This leak of information mirrors the tactics, techniques and procedures we used to undermine the republicans and is modeled after it. When I travel to Africa I will engage operatives to pass word back to Iranian dissodents that got the information out that we understand you got our message and are acting upon it. Hence the conversation and message traffic I got regarding the Tree Bearing Fruit. Two effective deep cover networks are begining to exchange data and mirror each others operations. To survive in Iran the men and women that got that document out have to be in deep cover and part of a regional intelligence network that must operate at risk of their lives. To communicate and coordianate operations we must work through cut outs and use plausable denial to exchange information. Our postings on the Web are essential to this exchange. We are now begining to see in vague detail the evolution of the Iranian decentralized network that is taking shape via the internet. We of the Alliance of Patriots wish them well and Gods Blessings on their endevors. Ed | ||
| Anon |
In terms of link analysis of the information leaked from inside Tehran. I note the following. The information for the story was obtained via the Agence France Press. This agency was founded by members of the French Ressitence Fighters after WW II. The article was then reposted on the National Council of Resistance of Iran Website that I am known by that organization to visit for updates. In this fight to assist the Iranian underground in terms of link analysis we have linked the National Council of Resistance of Iran, to an organization founded by French Resistance Fighters to and Underground Organization within the United States that includes members of the founding families of this nation, to the global evangelical christian movement and via our Islamic Friends to networks of contacts within the Islamic World that are made up of peaceful educated Muslims that despise terrorists that kill innocent men and women. In this case it is a linkage of world wide networks of contacts that are passing strategic intelligence around the globe. When I travel to Africa I will be traveling both as a retired intelligence officer and security and emergency services trainer, christian leader and head of a covert organization's intelligence service known as the Alliance of Patriots. That for the intelligence and Security Services is what a genius can do using internt surfing tools cookies and blind web postings that are tracked by organizations such as the National Council of Resistance of Iran. They have noticed my visits to their site tracked me back and we have been engaging in a discussion via postings and cutouts. In effect I have used my skills as a cryptographer and training in code speak and cyberwarfare from the first Pacific Wide Information Warfare Game the DOD conducted that I participated in as Intelligence Watch Officer at the CINCPAC Command Center to establish back channel converstions in a plausable denial mannor with other organizations using untracable techniques of communication. Such is the nature of my network and how I can pass data around the globe from Internet Cafes or my cell phone. ED Chesky Director of Intelligence Alliance of Patriots PS Anyone else have a question on how I am passing data around the globe and coordinating globle operations for an undergound movement that helped bring down the republican government and destroyed George Bush's hold on power? I note the following from my official Officer Evaluation Report. He, Major Edward A Chesky Jr, Excelled in analyzing, writting, and disseminating critical intelligence information to USCINCPAC and Staff Planners during the PRC/Taiwan crisis. These briefings provided decisive intelligence analysis which influenced theater and national level decision makers. | ||
| Anon |
Now you also know why I was paid very large sums of money as a contractor to go into our embasssy and break spy rings that were operating within them. Now you also know why I was poisoned, why I have police patroling around my home, to include random bomb dog searches, why I was the target of assasination on PANAM 103 and had an Al Qeada truck bomb destroy my office on the Vinnell Arabia compound. My Best to the Troops in Iraq Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Iran's Ahmadinejad under fire again Ed Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:16 pm: Anon In my opinion Ahmadinejad is just a spokesman; he has no power. The real power rests with the ruling Mullahs. Unless Ahmadinejad is attacked as an indirect attack on the ruling Mullahs such attacks would have no benefit. The link given by Ed http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp?NewsCode=49173&NewsKind=Cu rrent%20Affairs has a photograph of Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri. He is wearing a ‘white turban.’ Is he noble? From http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/651/re9.htm we find: === The Shi'ites have elevated the family and descendants of the Prophet to a position of sacred authority, and, today, among the Shi'ite communities in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon, the Ashraf (descendants of the family of the Prophet) are still distinguishable by their black turbans, as opposed to the white turbans worn by other members of the Shi'ite clergy. The charismatic leader of the Iranian Revolution Ayatollah Rohallah Khomeini, the Spiritual Guide of the Revolution Ali Khameini and the current President of Iran Mohamed Khatemi all wore black turbans. === The link given by Ed has the following: === The latest criticism came from Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, who was once appointed to succeed the founder of the Islamic revolution but fell from grace in the late 1980s. === May be if the Grand Ayatollah was qualified to wear the black turban he might have indeed succeeded the founder of the Islamic revolution. We have looked into the conditions to be satisfied to be a member of the family of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, in the light of the Holy Quran and Sunnah in http://deentech.com/MI_IC_True_Descendants.aspx and we have concluded as follows: === Conclusion: Any Muslim who obeys all the compulsory aspects of Islam is a believer. The believers are the true descendants of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and they are the ‘family of Muhammad.’ === The detailed analysis could be found in the link given. On the basis of our analysis, it is hoped one day I too would wear a black turban, the day I feel confident that I am a believer. | ||
| Anon |
Mohideen Ibramsha Yes I noticed the White Turban as well. Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri made a very strong statement within the confines of the society he is in with regards to his choice to wear the white turban. In the fight against the Mullahs once again people of strong beliefs rise to challange the dictitorial hold of religion on the people and ask questions and establish an opposition base. The Grand Ayatollah is old but has many disciples in Iran. He is a diabetic with heart disease and is likely to pass soon. With little to loose he has attacked the President of Iran and indirectly the Mullahs. His teachings at Qom, have created a divide in the schools of Islamic learning that produce the current leadership of Iran and from the background under surveillance he is weaving a network of disciples and contacts. When I visit South Africa I note that South Africa has greatly expanded its economic and political contacts with Iran. SA, Iran commission meets Oupa Segalwe 21 August 2006 http://www.southafrica.info/what_happening/news/news_international/sa_iran210806 .htm I also am in contact with the evangelical members in the field and have recieved an update from my contacts with regards to the situation in South Africa when I travel there. The message follows. It is in response to my planned trip to South Africa and was posted on a website linked to my search engine via search terms that have been passed to christian website designers. These terms are used as ques to direct my search engine to specfic sites to recieve updates. The sites contain posted messages that contain information that is used to pass data via a one time code. Once I log onto the site the search engine remembers the site and a cookie is stored on my computer tracking the visit to the site. This cookie is then used to confirm to the website owner that I visited the site and read the message posted there. The message itself is structured to contain information that keys to my particular circumstances that are known to my organization in order to act as self contained authenticating feature. Messages posting prior to my travel to a specific area searched and used as documents which form the basis of a one time cryptographic pads that are no longer of use once the message is recieved. Once I review the message I then go on to the site that is linked to it for an update on the current situation in the area I am going to be operating in. The technology used to conduct this type of operation was developed for the United States Government under the Auspices of the Interagency Collaberation Zone project I worked on. The artificial intelligence feature built into the search engine for that project was modified by my group to use to pass data as I have outlined. This search engine was designed to build and remember what I was looking for and the type of sites I was searching and offer me sugguestions based on the search history of sites I might want to visit. The code used for this feature was developed by the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency of DOD and a host of major defense contractors. It was appropirated by a group of high level moderate christians which I am working with and we have been using it to commuicate around the globe. Bill Clinton and Al Gore authorized the code developement. In turn my group used the code to help blow open a hole in the republican layers of denial that the Democratic Party Could use to bring the republicans down. In the message below it contains the words Muslim Death Threat. The words also include She is cancer free, hospital, and prayers which indicate the authenticity of the message. This contact and data exchange was performed via my wife and the evangelical Christian movement and then reviewed by myself. Muslim Death-threat trial news Thank you for your concern for the safety of our partners in the field. Our fellowship reports that they've heard from the detective inspector, who worked on the case before going into the hospital for cancer. She is cancer-free after prayers for her health. She is now back on the case, has submitted documents to the Senior State Prosecutor and is currently waiting for a hearing date. Ed | ||
| Anon |
For Mohideen Ibramsha I have recieved a coded message from the AFP using communications techniques that the resistance employed in WWII to send messages in broadcasts. The AFP members remember the old days and how they used to do things under the surveillence of the NAZI machine. The message indicates that communcation has been estaablished with Montazeri and the internal underground movement in Iran. This movement from the French ex-resistance members is broad based and multi-echelon in nature including academics, students, politicians and common folks. Contact advice and assitance is continuing to be provided to the underground in Iran and further leaks of Internal Iranian classified information is expected. I note the following during WWII During WWII, the BBC would include "personal messages" in its broadcasts of news and entertainment to occupied-Europe. Often they were coded messages intended for secret agents. Leo Marks attributes this idea to Georges Bégué, an agent for the Special Operations Executive who felt their use could eliminate a lot of the two-way radio traffic that often compromised agents. Such messages were also used to authenticate agents to sources of assistance in the field. The agent would arrange to have the BBC broadcast any short phrase the other person chose. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_broadcast I note the following regarding the use of female spies. http://www.forties.net/wwIIfemalespies.html I also note my wife and I and our families have both been trained by the Inteligence services and the churches in code breaking, war and religion for 1400 years. My wife used to hunt Russian Nuclear Submarines for the government and I used to hunt Soviet Operational Manuever Groups for sttack by nuclear weapons. Yes we lead a rebellion against the republicans over denial of a security clearence by the President. Yes we have established liason with the Iranian underground and are providing technical advice and assistance to that movement in order to help bring about peaceful change in Iran. Yes such things can be done and great things are in motion I also note the following that Al Qeada is believed to use the same technique: Administration urges caution in airing al Qaeda statements October 11, 2001 Posted: 3:41 AM EDT (0741 GMT) http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/10/10/ret.bush.media/index.html Ed | ||
| Anon |
For Mohideen Ibramsha, I have recieved a coded transmission from the Royal Household of Great Brittian. The signal indicated the Royal Household's willingness to support peaceful change inside Iran. The message was coded in a press release from the Royal Household. It indicates the Royal Household will support efforts to expand demoncracy inside Iran peacefully along with efforts to curb Global Warming. They confirm that their information matches my assessment of the effects of Global Warming. They also are concerned about rising inequality due to globalization, particularily among minorities in the urban centers of the developed world. Based on over a thousand years of experience in the area of social governance they feel that this inequality could and has lead to increased calls for a socialist revival on the global stage and is evidenced by the rise of socialism in Central and South America. They are concerned such beliefs will continue to spread unless inequality is addressed and economic supports are put in place to reduce the growing inequality in the developed world. Failure to do so the Royal Household feels will lead to increased social tensions and calls for redistribution of wealth. They signal that the Royal Household will use its power and influence to attempt to maintain order in the Middle East and advance the cause of peace. Ed | ||
| Anon |
In terms of a Cyberspace based Decentralized Network and its related Pyschological/Information Warfare Battlespace what we are doing is begining to mass forces with regards to Iran. The alliance of Patriots along with allied networks is begining to assemble a force to take on Iran and its pyschological/terrorist forces. In this battle we are begining to mass the forces that opposed the NAZI machine in World War II. This time we have modernized the forces and established covert communications to coordinate information warfare operations to attack the ideological, political, religous and security forces that sustain the regime in Iran. In terms of the Great Game. Great events and forces have been set in motion. Ed | ||
| anonymous |
The Great Game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnUcMCQDQYk no more, not a chance, 911 is our enemy | ||
| anon |
For the Readers of this site. As to current developments, Al Gore will present a award to Prince Charles who will also recieve an award for his support of the Harvard Medical center. In terms of back channel contacts and cut outs, I note my neuro-regeneration information was observed and reviewed by the Head of Neurology at Harvard Medical School. My postings here were read by staff of the Royal Household and discreet inquires were made. Following this contact and communications were established. In the battle against the ideology of militant Islamic Global Terrorism, it was necessary to engage this ideology and demonstrate a capability to match and exceed its capabilites and the propagando claims of Osama. To that degree I have been supported by forces, organizations and individuals to bring that about. I also serve as director of intelligence of a decentralized cyber based group of patriots that revere the Constitution of the United States and the freedoms it grants that is waging cyber and information warfare against the forces of oppression, terror and militant Islam. To this end we are working to support the forces of change in Iran. We expect this will be a long term battle and the frustation that will come from it will create longing for a military solution. To this we the Alliance of Patriots say, remember the Cold War and the length of time it took us to win it peacefully. Bringing about peaceful change is never easy, and it is not without cost. We pray that God will grant us wisdom and the strength to see this battle thru to its end. To this the members of the Alliance of Patriots pledges their lives | ||
| Anon |
I have just finished watching the movie the Guardian and recommend it for viewing. During the movie I was greatly moved by the U.S. Coast Guard swimmer who was wrestling with the question of why he was left alive when all of his team mates died. He survived decades of rescues when his life was put at risk to save others. The movie is very true to life and brought back to me all those that died when I lived. I will live my life always wondering why I lived when so many others died. When I wake at night screaming of the memories of the dead and the suffering of those from the airstrikes and missiles we launched that question comes back to haunt me. It is also the one of the reasons I have renounced violence. May God help the Iranian Dissodents in their struggle and may we have the time we need to bring change and to avoid war Ed | ||
| Anon |
As I get ready to travel to South Africa I recieved an update on the situation there. The Iranians have established a network of agents and front companies in SA with the goal of aquiring WMD technology and weapons technology from South Africa. Before it gave up its nuclear weapons program South Africa developed six nuclear weapons and tested one in the Indian Ocean on a barge. These weapons were developed using western technolgy that the South African intelligence services stole from the United Kingdom, United States and via Isreal. During the struggle against the South African Government the ANC established ties to Iran and recieved support and military assistance from Iran. Recently according to Church sources and sources inside South Africa, the ANC members of the Government have opened a dialog at a number of levels with Iran. Iran is using its relationship with the ANC to aquire intelligence information on a variety of subjects including Nuclear Technology. When I travel to South Africa, I will be walking into one of the critical nodes of the Iran's intelligence operations. I expect to establish contacts with my network in SA in an effort to further identify this Iranian SA network Ed | ||
| Anon |
Bolton for regime change in Tehran PARIS (AFP) - Negotiations with Tehran over Iran's nuclear programme have failed and the only long-term option is regime change, former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton has said http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070129/pl_afp/usiranunnuclear_070129123405 Bush warns Iran against action in Iraq http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070129/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iran_5;_ylt=AmGm6VRiJ77rNBfSO32fga1Sw60A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl Time may indeed be running out for a peaceful solution to the Iran problem. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Royal Household ... calls for redistribution of wealth. Ed Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 03:35 pm: Anon I am thinking loud now hoping that others might give a better solution. The stock market favors those companies that give better dividends. Many companies have started reducing the work force or reducing the wages to get more profit and thus to give more dividend. In this process the middle income families are pushed to the low income level. How does one make the stock market reward companies that value the welfare of their employees more than the profit they earn? As the mainline Christians rallied during the 2006 elections to defeat the neocons, could we rally the 'charity minded' to change the nature of the stock market? May we consider the wages to be of two parts: The wage that is given before the profit is calculated; and the wages that are given as part of the profit? Could we consider a bonus offered by the stock holders as charity? Let us say that the dividends are decided by the share holders. The management reports the 'dividends with no bonus to the employees' in the meeting of the share holders. The share holders agree to divert a part of this pre-bonus dividend to the employees as bonus. This diverted dividend could count as a 'charitable contribution' for tax purposes. Such sharing of the profit with the employees would - at the minimum - eliminate the bitterness arising out of a feeling of the rich getting richer at the cost of the poor. It might be good business as well. Once the workforce feels and expects a share of the profits as bonus, it might indeed plan on finding ways and means to increase the profit. I hope to see better approaches from other members. The Royal Household could take the lead in promulgating such indirect sharing of profits by the workforce thus initiating similar laws in other developed countries. Such a policy adoption could be done as early as desired and is expected to reduce tensions. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Time may indeed be running out for a peaceful solution to the Iran problem. Ed Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 04:27 pm: Anon What if the Iranian street erupts against the nuclear advances demanded by the Mullahs? Won't that buy time for the peaceful regime change? Let us not forget that the Indian freedom was won by the street - by the population demonstrating deep support for Mahatma Gandhi whenever he called for a particular action. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Bolton for regime change in Tehran ... Bush warns Iran against action in Iraq ... Time may indeed be running out for a peaceful solution Ed Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 04:27 pm: Anon http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070130/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq === Adm. William Fallon, who is poised to become the top American commander in the Middle East ... said Tehran was unlikely to produce a nuclear weapon until "mid-next decade." === There could be no stronger statement to show that the threat from Iran is far off and thus there is enough time for a peaceful regime change. We must state categorically that any individual or group or nation initiating the war with Iran would have the blood of all ensuing deaths on him / her / them. | ||
| Anon |
Are the Iranians Out for Revenge? http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1583523,00.html?cnn=yes A very good article on the covert war that is escalating between the forces of the Extremist Militant Islamo Fascist President of Iran and the Forces of the President of the United States. In this battle we have two men of limited intellect, given over to extreme views on religion, waging an escalating covert war using Lebenon and Iraq as battlegrounds in their struggle. Against this backdrop of violence forces of freedom and peace; lead by men and women of great genius, skill, ability (some with strong religous convictions); are coordinating operations with the Iranian resistance movement in an effort to bring peaceful change in Iran. In support of the goal of bringing peaceful change in Iran networks of old Cold War agents, resistence fighters from WWII, religious organizations and former military and political leaders are coordinating operations to limit the escalation of violence while supporting the Iranian resistence movement. Turned out of meaningful jobs by the current administration the men and women of the Alliance of Patriots banded together and brought down the republican government. Now we turn our attention to Iran and do what we can to aid its resistence movement and the fight against terror from the sidelines. We do this by building networks of contacts whose purpose is to report to official agencies on the actions and movements of terrorists and Iranian agents via the open press and in private discussions with trusted government officials. Our weapons are plausable denial, the truth, leaked intelligence from the heart of Iran and predictive ability based on years of experience and honorable service that exceeds that of the Intelligence Communities of the Federal Government. Operating together we have built a decentralized all channel full matrix network that we are now turning on the Iranian problem. We have demonstrated its capability here in the United States and will use in defense of freedom and furtherment of technological civilization. Ed | ||
| Anon |
Unexpected Iraq bloodbath raises concerns Accounts of little-known Shiite cult prompt more questions than answers http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16890740/ The article posted above raises a number of good questions. Chief among the questions is how a Cult could amass sufficient weapons and develope sufficient military capability in secret that it took the most high tech weapons available to the United States along with U.S. and Iraqi reinforcements to destroy it. We the Alliance of Patriots and our religous associates have renounced violence. We however, have had access to the most advanced technology and medical techniques ever developed by the United States, Soviet Union, Isreal, NATO and Western Civilization. This coupled with a leadership trained in war and religion by the finest minds in the West, along with covert commuications and cryptology techniques by the government of the United States and NATO and access to combined family wealth that runs into the hundreds of millions of dollars in assets is what makes up the Alliance of Patriots. This along with a leadership whose IQ is in the top 10% of the human race is what rebelled and coordinated the operations to destroy the Republican hold on power in the United States without firing a shot in anger. This Alliance threw all of its technological and biological capability behind me when I was poisoned with 1200 times the normal level of Neuro-Toxin and backed me in my fight against the deceptions and distortions of truth put forth by director CIA and the President of the United States and their supporters. As to the nature of the battle and capabilities of the Alliance of Patriots. Look at the article posted above and my war record and official officer evaluation reports. Compare it to my college transcripts medical records and documented neuro-regeneration. Then think about what an Iraq cult was able to do and what an organization made up of men and women of the same caliber of myself could do when put to the test. Then think about what we are doing with regards to Iran and the nature of the games we play to keep from becoming bored. My Best Ed | ||
| Naive |
By now Bush is responsible for far more Iraqi deaths than Saddam, and more American deaths than 911. We should draw the line somewhere else. For example, let the old men grumble at each other, and educate the young not to follow so blindly. We have allowed our government to convince us of the need for this war, when our government's meddling dragged us into it in the first place. Radical Muslims never threatened our freedoms until our governmental policies incited them! We should not complain about smog when we ourselves have filled the tanks with gas! Perhaps we are too arrogant in our righteousness to admit that although we may be morally correct (at least according to our standards of ethics), we have been self-righteously wrong in our overaction. This is indeed Frankenstein's monster. Naive | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/feingold-tugs-on-iraq-purse-string s/ === “Tomorrow, I will introduce legislation that will prohibit the use of funds to continue the deployment of U.S. forces in Iraq six months after enactment. By prohibiting funds after a specific deadline, Congress can force the President to bring our forces out of Iraq and out of harm’s way. ... === Precedents are cited in http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/31/congress-has-the-power-to-end-the-war-in-ira q/ === There is precedent to back that argument as well. Congress has twice since 1970 to limit funding for wars. The first time it concerned Vietnam. Congress appropriated funding to support current troop levels but no more than that and then for Gulf War I limited funding to the liberation of Kuwait and that was that. congress also, if I recall severly limited Pres. Clintons ability to intervene in the Balkans by not giving him the money necessary to fund any action in conjunction with NATO. === Can President Bush veto the resolution limiting his authority? Could we hope that such a resolution would have enough support to override a presidential veto? | ||
| Anon |
According to MSNBC News broadcasts the President and Vice President of the United States have placed senior personnel in all executive branch agencies whose only function is to serve as the eyes and ears of the President and make sure these agencies conform to the ideological and religous dictates of the current administration. They are also to serve as agents that ensure these executive agencies follow the guidelines and dictates of the president and vice president. In doing so the President and Vice President have constructed an system that rivals the political commissars of the old Soviet Union at the hieght of its power. These ideological commisars determine who his hired or removed from federal service. Alter the findings of studies produced by Federal Agencies and in doing so have violated the traditions and standards established by the United States civil service act and the neutrality and objectivity of our federal agencies. It was against this vast ideolgical machine that I and the Alliance of Patriots rebelled in order to break the republican hold on power that marched us in idological lockstep to war despite all the intelligence that showed Iraq had no linkage to Al Qeada. In the battle agaisnt this unprecidented effort to control the agencies of the federal government men and women risked their lives, reputations, emloyability and health to free this nation from the control of this ideological political machine. This machine was replicated in the Green Zone in Iraq and is one of the reasons that we have failed to control the cycle of violence in Iraq and reconstruct the country. Ed | ||
| Anon |
The Right-Wing Affiliations of Bush Administration Officials http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=6173 For years, right-wing groups such as the Heritage Foundation have made a concerted effort to serve as job agencies for their elected allies. A former Heritage staffer who went on to serve in the incoming Reagan administration once noted, “Heritage has been really useful to the White House in filling those non-glorious mid-level policy slots which are in effect the nuts and bolts of decision-making in government.” Many political observers at the time were surprised at the sudden influence of the Heritage Foundation, a formerly obscure right-wing think tank. But Heritage’s diligence has paid off handsomely in the representation of its alumni and ideological siblings in positions of political power. While the Heritage Foundation supplies candidates for policy positions, the Federalist Society exerts its influence both in the policy and legal arenas. The group counts among its members Senator Orrin Hatch, former Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr and Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. The Bush administration has drawn heavily on Federalist Society ranks to staff the executive branch – from cabinet-level appointees like Attorney General John Ashcroft, Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, and Interior Secretary Gail Norton to a wide range of mid-level positions. In the past few decades, the Right has grown by leaps and bounds, playing key roles in local and national politics, but the Bush Presidency finally provides its leaders with a long-awaited prize – a return to the Oval Office. Columnist George Will recently effused that “[President] Bush is, second only to Ronald Reagan and not second by much, the most conservative president in living memory.” Right-wing strategist Grover Norquist seconded that sentiment, saying “I think Bush is every bit as radical as Reagan was.” These days, no one is surprised at the clout of Heritage, or any of the other similar groups that have sprouted up, and it shows in the ranks of the Bush administration. Such is the nature of the Machine that the Alliance of Patriots took on in a vast battle of leaks, code speak and psychological warfare from home computers, on the streets and in the churches at the grass roots levels. I note the following with regards to evangelical christian code speak. My wife and I are fluent in this speak and use it to speak to mainstream church members and the alliance of patriots. We use it to have conversations that appear on the surface to be merely routine discussions of religous matters but are complex exchanges of information based upon the allegories containe in the Bible. When evangelicals are discussing End Times prophecy, they often use the term "birth pangs" as shorthand to refer to a core "prophetic" verse in Matthew: And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places: all this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs." (Matthew 24:3-8 RSV) Simply put, they believe that when the "pangs" (aka wars, earthquakes, etc) begin to intensify the Rapture is about to occur. (Similar to the way a woman can tell she is about to give birth when her birth pangs intensify and become closer together). You can see the term used everywhere in Christian's online chatter. Most evangelicals also believe that conflict in Israel is the most telling sign of the End Days. Given this, we find a statement made by Condi last week very alarming: "What we're seeing here ... are the birth pangs of a new Middle East and whatever we do, we have to be certain that we are pushing forward to the new Middle East, not going back to the old one." Condi is a self-professed evangelical and is undoubtedly familiar with this religious code word. We couldn't agree more with Digby who says: Aside from the unbelievable arrogance of that statement, which is virtually designed to piss off just about everyone in the region, this "birth-pang" characterization struck me a bizarre when I heard it. It seemed like an odd image to evoke under the circumstances and I didn't quite understand what she was referring to since the "democracy baby" she and her unofficial husband call Iraq is dying a violent death before it is even born. Now I get it. Members of the Bush administration have been speaking in code to the Christian fundamentalists for years. In fact, they've been praised for their innovation by the mainstream press. From "culture of life" to "Dred Scott" to "wonder working power" the administration is often talking above the mainstream discourse directly to its Christian Right base Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
1989397%2C00.html,http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1989397,00.html === In Ramadi there was still jihad against the Americans because there were no Shia to fight, but in Baghdad his group only attacked the Americans if they were with Shia army forces or were coming to arrest someone. === Bush plans to send more of our boys and girls to Baghdad to help the Iraqi government. Given the above perception, we need to stop this surge in troops. Sending the troops to Baghdad would worsen the situation. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
To open the Guardian article referred to in the above post please paste just the part after the http in the browser window. | ||
| Anon |
U.S.-Iran tensions may trigger war http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_war_clouds The situation in Iraq. Lebenon and between the United States and Iran has reached the point that a serious incident could result in the outbreak of open hostilities between the two nations. Against this backdrop Al Qeada is likely preparing for a major terrorist attack in an effort to manuever the United States and Iran into war. Support by Iranian fanatics to Iraqi insurgents has reached a critical point. At this juncture a major attack using Iranian supplied weapons could set the entire region on fire. The recent battle in Iraq between the cult and the Iraqis and Americans was designed to be such an attack. Fortunately it was stopped. Its intent was to kill Sistani and large numbers of Shia pilgrims. The goal of the attack was to provoke conflict between Iran and the United States over the killing of high Shia Clerics and damage to a holy site. I expect further attempts such as this to occur in the near future. Ed | ||
| Ivan |
Could this have been one more effort to incite the people of the West into an 'unholy' Jihad in the Mid East, Iran, Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, etc. ? 9 caught and held in suspected terror plot to capture Muslim member of armed forces in UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6318735.stm Beheading your own in the name of Jihad seems not to trouble them too much. Will their 'boys and girls' now resort to torturing and beheading their own to incite hatred, violence, more and more blood? It makes no sense to a modern mind, but all the sense in the world to a regressive recidivist mentality that loves death over life, in their evil political faith. Regrets. But they sure do keep trying our patience, don't they? Suicidal to the max, but don't give into them. Treat the criminals for what they are. Ivan | ||
| Anon |
From my sources in Iraq I have recieved an update on the cult that was going to attack Sistani. They were followers of a bastardized version of Sunni Islam that wanted to bring about a final conflict, Jihad, against the West. They intended to launch this Jihad with an attack during the ongoing Muslim celebration. They have recieved guidence and support from Al Qeada linked personnel that provided tactical training, weapons and intelligence support to the leader of the group. AL Qeada saw them as a disposable force that they intended to throw away when they were done with them. They played to the ego of the cult's leader and were going to use him to conduct a major attack. This is what the Iraqis blundered into. I recived this information from sources both in the Iraqi Government and United States Military. As Ivan said this operation was to be tied to the operation conducted in England in a one two punch against us. More attacks are to come. Ed | ||
| Anon |
In an update on the Cult in Iraq. They were actually a warped form of Shia Islam not Sunni as per my earlier post. I was corrected by a Muslim contact at the University that is performing translations and transcription services for the Alliance of Patriots. Al Qeada supporters were dispatched to the cult within the last few months in preparation for the attack on Najaf. Their mission was to train and advise the cult in weapons and tactics. According to my Muslim contact at the University this training included urban warfare from lessons learned from the conflict in Chechnya. The article posed below confirms and sums up the intelligence assessment of the Alliance of Patriots on this situation. Iraqi army kills leader of Shiite cult http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070129/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/feb2007/brze-f02.shtml === Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the national security adviser in the Carter administration, delivered a scathing critique of the war in Iraq and warned that the Bush administration’s policy was leading inevitably to a war with Iran, with incalculable consequences for US imperialism in the Middle East and internationally. ... Most stunning and disturbing was his description of a “plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran.” It would, he suggested, involve “Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks, followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure, then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in a ‘defensive’ US military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.” [Emphasis added]. This was an unmistakable warning to the US Congress, replete with quotation marks to discount the “defensive” nature of such military action, that the Bush administration is seeking a pretext for an attack on Iran. === We do not know whether the alluded events would really takeplace. However the above quote brings one major dilemma into focus. Commander-in-Chief Bush has the duty to protect the troops irrespective of whether their presence in a hostile area was a blunder or not. Could Congress overrule the Commander-in-Chief arguing that his proposed actions endanger the troops more rather than protecting them, if Bush launches military action against Iran before our boys and girls have moved out of Iraq? | ||
| Anon |
A good posting Mohideen, In the great game of war Osama tried to use a cult to do what both Zbigniew and I said with regrds to provocation in Iraq that could lead to conflict with Iran. In this great game of minds Osama from his cave playes a deep game of chess on the world stage. This is one of the reasons I was targeted for poisoning. In my mind I have the ability to visualize a map of the world and then overlay on top of it events, factors and situation updates and then cross reference that information with my military training and education to build a picture of the game board. Osama has the same ability. Nelson Mandela did the same thing from his cell in South Africa. It is this capability that allows me to do predictive analysis with out the aid of computers. Using signals and cutouts I can build a picture in my mind and then issue instructions based on my assessment of the situation via coded transmissions. Osama does the same thing via his sermons and statements. This capability is what made me one of the best analysts in the United States Military and is one of the reasons I was targeted for killing. I would use my ability to assist the war effort but was denied a security clearence because the computer engineers wanted to code what I did and profit from it. Hoever my ability exceeded the capability of current computer technology as does Osama's and Nelson Mandela's I have read Osama's play book and can sense his hand in the events that invovled the cult in Iran. He has gone deep underground but still plays the game as Brzezinshi and I both understand. My Best Ed | ||
| Anon |
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1584842,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partn er The Jitters in Tehran A very good article on the behind the scenes tension in Iran and a move to try and oust the current Iranian President from power. In this conflict of wills sober peopple behind the scenes on both sides have had enough with the posturing and retoric of both George Bush and the President of Iran. I post this here as a point for discussion. Ed | ||
| Anon Anon |
Care for U.S. veterans could cost $662 bln http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070202/us_nm/iraq_usa_veterans_dc Now we begin to see the true cost of the President's war. Anon Anon | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Care for U.S. veterans could cost $662 bln Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 06:44 pm: Anon Anon http://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-srivastava210706.htm === 21 July, 2006 Nobel -- Laureate Joseph Stiglitz estimates the war to cost (and the weapons manufacturers to get) between $1 and 2 trillion over the next several years. === If we are to evolve into a peace loving humanity such exploitation of poverty must end. Here we have the poor losing their limbs and lives for the super rich. But for the sacrifice of the war veterans these war related industries would have barely survived. Why not ask the armament industry to pay for the medical bill of the war veterans, after all $662 bn is just 30% of $2 trillion? | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.arabamericannews.com/newsarticle.php?articleid=7485 === Iran: The war has already begun By: John Pilger ... Reprinted from the "New Statesman," February 5, 2007 === The whole article is worth reading and thinking about. | ||
| Anon |
Why not ask the armament industry to pay for the medical bill of the war veterans, after all $662 bn is just 30% of $2 trillion? Mohideen Ibramsha Mohideen, You raise a good question. As to the cost of the war. Osama and the Iranian's have forseen the economic cost of a war of attrition on the United States economy over the long hall. They are using these projections as part of their plan to bring the United States to its knees economically over the long haul. Osama and his supporters used the same tactics in Afghanistan against the Russian's In terms of Guerilla warfare tactics what they Osama and Iran and Syria are trying to do is bleed us in a war of attrition. In the United States the cost of the payments to the disabled veteran population comes from the general fund. This moeny is raised by taxes on the working people of the United States. Part of the contract our society signed with its military members is to provide them with support if they wounded in the course of war, payments to support them after the war. This serves two functions. The first being to provide society with a way to pay back those who defended it and also as a way of ensuring that society continues to provide men and women for the military in the future by ensuring that we will care for them if they are wounded. Through his tactics in a masterful combination of application of guerilla tactics, propaganda, economic warfare, and psychological warfare Osama has launched a full scale international Jihad bound by the internet against us using this promise of payments to disabled veteran's as way of disrupting the social fabric of the United States. By driving the price of oil up and undermining the health of the world economy, and increasing the amount we have to set out for payments to disabled veteran's Osama is forcing us to spend more from the general fund on VA disability payments, war costs and reduce funding to social programs. This in term raises social tensions in the United States. At the same time he is pointing out the weaknesses and evidence of corruption within our corporate system and promoting a aleternative religious bases system to replace it that claims to be much more fair and equitable. In this battle he knows George Bush well and is playing him like a fiddle. He knows how George reacts to events, and attacks anticipating the reaction to Bush while watching the economic indicators and social tensions that come from them rise in American society. It is a great game to him and his supporters. More thoughts on Osama and this plan along with the economic data and cause and effect relationship would be worth discussing here in my opinion. If we look at George Bush's actions the excalating costs of the war in Iraq has caused him, in accordance with his outlook, to cut spending in programs such as student aid and middle class supports in order to raise money for the war. This in turn lead to erosion of support for Bush among the middle class. This coupled to rising causalties and the impact this has on american families also helpe to turn them against Bush. Say what you want but Osama was a genius at tactics and strategic warfare. Bush has been palyed like a fool in this game by a master. Ed | ||
| Anon |
In looking at the outlines of Osama's plan what he has done is a masterful job at applying the tactics, techniques and procedures of Guerilla Warfare against the United States. I once wrote a paper for the pentagon on the mindset of Osama. It was studied by the national counter terrorism center and found to be a brillient piece of work. To understand him I had to understand his mind in all details, in effect I had to become Osama, but based upon my upbringing and cultural traditions I did so from the perspective of what it meant to be such a figure within the Judeu/Christian tradition. To do so I had to understand what it meant to be a religous political leader gifted with tactical and strategic genius and then placed in a frustrating position that limited my ability to influence events. From that understanding I explored my options and capabilites given the tools available to me to influence events. These tools included, access to computers, the internet, open source databases, student populations, intelligence tactics techniques and procedures, knowledge of geurilla warfare, terrorism techniques and university experts. I coupled this to my frustrations, anger and bitterment at being shut out of the system due to the actions of the Bush admininstration and then wanted to see were this would lead me. In this experiment I had to delve into the deepest recessess of Osama's mind to understand it from his desire to dominate the world, impose a new social/political/economic system on it and what he would do to achieve this and what he would be capable of doing. I also had to engage in a individual self assessment guided by experts in terms exploring all of my base human wants desires and lusts to understand how these forces would impact on my behavior and color my actions. From my experimental data I what I also wanted to do was gage what one man and women could achieved using access to religious institutions based upon a shared family history that matched that of the decendents of the Prophet in terms of proven links to historical events and religous figures. I as part of this I wanted to test what one man could do within the context of religion in terms of predictive analysis performed within the context of that belief system, forcasting destructive events without the aid of computers and the resulting social political repercussions of such actions from the persective of the forces within society at all levels that would be mobilized to oppose such a man and what these forces, people and organizations would do to maintain the status quo. In doing so I studied all of the great figures of Chrsitianity, down through the ages, and compared their actions during pivotal events in human history to assess how I fit into that mindset and what I would do in similar circumstances. These figures included Jesus Christ, Saint Paul, Joan of Arc, King Arthur, Napolion, Descartes, Hugen, Newton, the leader of the Taipe Rebellion in China and the rest. I then did an assessment of what such a man could do interms of using the tools of this age in building a decentralized network via the Internet and establishing a decentralized francise type of operation to promote his goals direction and aims over a multigenerational period of time. From this I compared my predictions of events to that of Osama and his organization in order to demosntrate what an opossing organization that was much higher on the technological, military, operational intelligence scale and educational scale could do and achieve. In all I found this exploration of the mind of a master terrorist traumatising and testing me to inner most part of my being. In it I discovered the what makes me who I am what a devoted christian warleader would do in similiar circumstances as opposed to that of a Islamic one. The sword wielded by the Christian is similiar to that of the One held aloft by Joan of Arc, with the exception that the sword in this new age is one forged of video broadcasts, digitized data flowing around the internet and pyschological forces. This is compared to the one raised and forged by Osama in his camps in Afghanistan and elsewhere. The question remains. Which is more powerful? For that I personnaly leave that to St. Paul's teachings on the matter. I post the above to stimulate discussion on the tactics techniques and procedures Osama, terrorist sponsoring nation states and their allies are using to wage war against us and our socio-economic-religous-political system. It is intended to bring help us to begin to understand what we are up against so that we may begin to build a real plan to fight this battle in an effective way. Ed | ||
| Anon |
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/world/2007/02/03/robertso n.taliban.mosque.cnn Taliban Mosque A good video on the problem facing the west in dealing with the spread of radical philosophy within the Mosques of Europe and the United States. The issue is how to deal with this threat without inflaming the passions of peaceful Muslims among us and turning non-muslims against the minority Muslim population. By his actions Osama has forever changed our world with the destruction he wrought on 9/11 and via his other operations. In terms of striking at a key nexus he wrought damage on all levels beyound that of the mere physical damage inflicted. It was truely a master stroke and has set us on the path to more war and helped inflame tensions among the people of Islam and the West. Such is what Osama did from that cave in Afghanistan and why the people of Islam fear and respect him. This also why my wife and I backed by the Churches walk this world freely. We are symbols of our history and icons in the great game in the battle for the hearts and minds of the people. Our freedom is your freedom our health is in your hands as is our right to employment, freedom from discrimination and freedom to worship god in the manor we choose as long as we harm no one by our practices or force others to worship as we do. Such is the man and women that stood up to oppose Osama and open a honest dialog with the people of Islam. Ed | ||
| Ivan |
In "the war with Iran has already begun" article posted by Mohideen above, it says: I find this kind of thinking false, first because it makes Iran's President's call for wiping out Israel look as if he did not mean it, which I am sure he did; second, because it makes the false analogy that Iran has not attacked anyone else, which is small comfort for the Israelis or the rest of the world, since Iran is seeking nuclear power. Any belligerent regime run by thugs in chief, as are in power in Iran, cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons of mass destructions. We cannot allow nuclear arming of ANY nation that calls for the destruction of another. If Iran persists in its nuclear refinement deep inside its bunkers, they will be taken out. No attack has happened to date, so to say the war has already begun is alarmist, and not true. But if Iran persists, these bunkers can be taken out, possibly by this spring. They had been warned repeatedly, ignored such warnings from both the Western powers and the UN, and continued their defiance to build the bomb. Iran is now on borrowed time, unless and until they cease and desist. I am not optomistic they will do this. I vote they give the Iranian people warning to vacate premises before the strikes are launched. Ivan | ||
| Anon |
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 04:50 pm: Against this backdrop Al Qeada is likely preparing for a major terrorist attack in an effort to manuever the United States and Iran into war. Support by Iranian fanatics to Iraqi insurgents has reached a critical point. At this juncture a major attack using Iranian supplied weapons could set the entire region on fire. The recent battle in Iraq between the cult and the Iraqis and Americans was designed to be such an attack. Fortunately it was stopped. Its intent was to kill Sistani and large numbers of Shia pilgrims. The goal of the attack was to provoke conflict between Iran and the United States over the killing of high Shia Clerics and damage to a holy site. I expect further attempts such as this to occur in the near future. Ed It is with deep regret that I report that the Alliance of Patriots was correct in its assessment and that such an attack as feared has occured in Iraq with much loss of life. Our wishes and heartfelt sympathy goes to the victims of this horrible attack Ed | ||
| Anon |
Suicide bombing kills 132 at Baghdad market Truck bomb rocks predominantly Shiite area; at least 305 wounded in blast http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16957259/ Retired officers: Iran attack would be a disaster Former high-ranking U.S. military officials plead for a diplomatic solution http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16964430/ The links posted above are indicators of how dangerous the situation in Iraq and with Iran has become. Al Qeada and its allies are experts are reading the situation and poltical forces correctly, then striking to inflame tensions and precipitate a escalation of violence. I have been monitoring the events in Iraq and with Iran along with the men and women that make up the Alliance of Patriots. The generals in the article posted above were part of the team that won the cold war. They understand as well how dangerous the situation in Iraq and Iran has become. My sources also tell me that France has confirmed that Iran is persuing the development of atomic weapons. How to deal with the situation and descalate it is now the challange. Critical to this is building a Suni moderate arab state alliance along with resovling the Palestinian issue. This allaince would oppose Iran and tacitly accept the existance of Isreal if the the Palestinian question can be resloved. Unfortunately both the Isreali and American president have squandered their political capital by engaging in wars baed on faulty intelligence. Based on this intelligence they went into wars not understanding what they were up against and the forces that would be mobilized against them. As a result of this they failed to resource or conduct their wars correctly and have brought the region to the brink of general and civil war. Thoughts now that we understand Al Qeada's objectives in Iraq and elsewhere would be appreciated. In the latest statement of Al Qeada they talk of expanding the war in "Circles" outside of Baghdad. I am working on decyphering this shift in strategy but assess that they have shifted resources out of Baghdad and are preparing operations in critical areas. This includes in the south and north of the country. One possible next phase of the operation could be to strike at the Kurdish controled areas to increase tensions between ethnic turks and the Iraqi Government. With an objective of trying to precipitate a Turkish intervention in Iraq. The goal of this would be to inflame passions from the memories of Turkish rule over Iraq on the part of the Iraqi people. A series of coordinated attacks in Turkey along with strikes in Iraq would do this as the Turks would read this as a deteriorization of the situation in Iraq and view it as the violence spreading outside the borders. This action from Al Qeada's view would also serve to undermine Turkey's entrance in the EU and its move to increase integration with Europe. This would happen because it would demonstrate to the EU doubt about Turkey's ability to be a responsible member of the EU, one that would not over react to the situation in Iraq. This would also serve to Advance the cause of fundamentalist Islam because it would help undermine support for the secular government in Turkey. I am currently looking for indicators to confirm this shift in focus and resources by Al Qeada and thoughts on this assessment would be appreciaated. Ed | ||
| Le Chef |
Chill Out...  Bee Happy, why worry? Enjoy, be cool, what's it all about anyway? Winter's too long... Chill out... firget wars, who needs'em, man. Come to the islands. Le Chef | ||
| Anon |
LOL Le Chef I will soon be in South Africa soaking up the sun. The reason I have been posting here is try and guide the intelligence communities to an understanding of what they are facing with regrds to Iraq, Iran and Al Qeada. I am working on reconstructing the current strategy of Al Qeada to include the events analysis matrix it uses to react to events and conduct terrorist operations. I have a working model of it and have been applying it to current events in Iraq. From it I detected that a critical nexus in terms of time and events offered an oportunity to exercerbate tensions in the region and anticipated Al Qeada would initiate an operation to take advantage of it. They did and over a hundred Iraqis died and hundreds were wounded. I am frustrated as I don't have access to the data I need to further refine and pinpoint particular current operations. I did what I could with the support of the Alliance I built which includes arab linguists at college, university professors, access to academic data bases, the media and 24 years of covert operations experience. I used every tool tactic and technique of pyschology, pyschological profiling and code breaking to get my hands on Al Qeada's internal strategic plan. I did the same in Germany at the height of the Cold War to steal the Czech and Soviet Central Group of Forces War plans. At present I have reconstructed about 65-75 percent of Al Qeada's current strategic plan, aims objectives, tactics, techniques and procedures. The basics of the plan I have previously discussed above. It is the best I can do with the data available to me. As you say sometimes you need to chill out. I will be doing so in South Africa come March. When I get into the country I will be traveling first class during my visit. In my own way sending a message to Al Qeada and the Iranians. Take a look at the man that broke Al Qeada's code and reached into the heart of Iran thru cutouts and contacts. I am just one player in this game. One that is part of network that rivals Al Qeada in size scope and capability. But is light years beyound it in technical, biological and medical capabilities. My best Ed | ||
| Ivan |
Iran threat followup, from above post, where 'time is running short'. From BBC New: Iran strike 'would be disastrous' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6330353.stm How will Iran's ruling clerics respond to this world pressure to stop uranium enrichment inside its deep bunkers? How have they responded to date? Will their typical evasiveness and delaying continue? But how much more before 'time is running out' and all stop believing their lies? They do lie to the West, so no trust exists between the modern world and Iran's regressive ruling 'elites'. Without trust there is no meaningful dialogue possible, lies beget lies. Cassandras wail, but it does not turn lies into truth. Diplomacy based on lies is worthless. That's how wars start, with the lies. I think Iran is already too deep, in their bunkers full of lies. Bad business they created for themselves, with likely bad results. No blame if bunkers are taken out, hard and fast. This is a case where appeasement won't work. After the strikes, the Iranian clerics might be more willing to talk turkey; for now they're struttin' n cluckin' for trouble in the hen house. Perhaps then diplomacy wil have a chance. Ivan | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
In the United States the cost of the payments to the disabled veteran population comes from the general fund. Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 08:35 am: Anon Is it not true that this fact is exploited by the armament industry? The general fund could be the one to pay the veterans. We need not augment the general fund from the tax proceeds alone. We do tax the corporations and even the small businesses. When a war is waged for the defense of the nation the population would be happy to pay. It is well revealed that the Iraq war was a war of vengeance and one of conquest. It was waged – is still being waged – to establish pliant regimes that would allow the corporations to exploit the resources of Iraq. This is not national security but corporate plunder. The suggestion to make the armament industry – include the petroleum industry as well – pay for the upkeep of the veterans was made so that we the population is not cheated again. These industries have reaped windfall profits and shall continue to do so. Unless it is made clear that exploitation of the common public for the welfare of a few rich individuals shall not be accepted, we would be pushed into such wars of plunder in future also. Osama might have seen through Bush. In the great game played for the benefit of special interests we need not be made the scapegoats. By enacting a law demanding that the profit from the armaments shall be taxed appropriately and that the proceeds of this tax would be ear marked for the veterans we retain the overall social fabric. We retain democracy. Instead by allowing the armament and oil industries to reap windfalls with the burden of looking after the veterans placed solely on the general public we run the risk of losing democracy itself. Which is better: to impress upon those gaining windfalls to share it for the benefit of all and retaining our culture or for the sake of those few reaping windfalls lose democracy itself to a revived communism or socialism or to Islam even? By changing the way in which the general fund would be replenished and spent we could defeat Osama. In terms of survival Indians are not rich, but they do live. That is the spirit we need to inculcate among the rich and the super rich among us. If a distributive philosophy like communism succeeds here these rich and super rich stand to lose everything. Instead of losing 100% it is better to lose 30% and retain the remaining 70%. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
I post the above to stimulate discussion on the tactics techniques and procedures Osama, terrorist sponsoring nation states and their allies are using to wage war against us and our socio-economic-religous-political system. It is intended to bring help us to begin to understand what we are up against so that we may begin to build a real plan to fight this battle in an effective way. Ed Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 10:06 am: Anon What Ed seeks is help to retain his way of life: the Christian and democratic way. Could Muslims help him and others like him? The short answer is: Yes, as long as such help does not hinder the Muslim way of life. Two Verses of the Holy Quran play a very important role in the lives of Muslims. Verse 255 of Chapter 2 of the Holy Quran is called ‘The Verse of the Throne’ and is recited by many seeking protection of God from evil forces. Verse 256 of the same Chapter declares the peaceful nature of Islam. Multiple translations of these Verses are found in http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=2&from_verse=255&to_v erse=256&mac=&translation_setting=1&show_transliteration=1&show_yusufali=1&show_ shakir=1&show_pickthal=1&show_mkhan=1 . We quote the translation of Yusuf Ali for immediate reference in view of the importance of the discussion. === 2:255 Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory). 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. === All power belongs to God. So whatever help the Muslims might extend to Ed and others would have any effect if and only if it is sanctioned by God. So Muslims can help. Let us look at: ’Let there be no compulsion in religion.’ What happens if God makes the Muslims alone to succeed in life and non-Muslims to be failures? It is human nature that we like success and thus would follow those paths that lead to success. Then God has offered compulsion – albeit indirect – to make Islam attractive. If there be no compulsion, then God could not tilt the balance in favor of Islam. GOD does not. Today the burden of supporting the veterans is quite a burden. Whether one approves of the fiscal priorities of the Republicans or not, the support of the veterans must be maintained and thus there is bound to be sacrifices elsewhere. When these sacrifices are made they are invariably made by the average citizen. We know from the fact that the elections of 2000, 2002, and 2004 did not reflect the true mandate of the public, the public cannot be held to ransom for the Iraq war. [Even the Afghan war was not justified, but there are bound to be differences of opinion on that war.] Now the question we have to address is: are we justified in increasing the quantum of sacrifices expected of a population victimized by its ruler? I hope everyone would agree that the answer is ‘No.’ How could we help? First and foremost let us treat our Masjids as they should be treated. Can there be political discussions inside a Masjid? Can there be discussions of worldly affairs inside the Masjid? [There could be discussions about the Muslims and the problems faced by them and possible solutions. Such discussions are not worldly discussions. The Imams are expected to discuss the problems faced by their communities and pray and seek solutions for those problems.] http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=lost+Mosque+cry&translator=2 &search=1&book=&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all === (1) Chapter 62: IT IS FORBIDDEN TO cry OUT FOR FINDING OUT THE lost THING IN THE Mosque (Book #Book, Hadith #Chapter) (2) Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If anyone hears a man crying out in the Mosque about something he has lost, he should say: May Allah not restore it to you, for the Mosques were not built for this. (Book #004, Hadith #1153) === So any political discussion should not be held inside a Masjid. Any who attempts such a discussion should be told to either keep quiet or leave the Masjid. Such avoidance of using a Masjid for planning worldly conquests reduces the anxiety of the non-Muslims and also reduces the cost of protecting the population by avoiding the need to monitor the Masjids. | ||
| Ivan |
You lost me a little bit here. Is God supportive of Muslim efforts, or not supportive? If supportive, please give examples. If not supportive, please explain better, since this seems obscure here. Also, 'success' or 'failures' by what standards? Is the world of the Taliban successful? Is OB Ladin successful? Please clarify. Much thanks, Ivan | ||
| Ivan |
In the interest of national security, having any fifth colums preaching sedition within our borders needs monitoring. This is not a problem of religion, but rather a problem of national security and integrity as a free nation. Sorry, but your political Islam stuff must be monitored at all times, without rest, and without assessment of costs involved, which are now very great. The inconveniences of having to monitor political Islam is growing all the time, money that could have been put to better use elsewhere in society. Political Islam has become a real burden on free western societies, so these masjid activities must be monitored, without interruption, and with full force. This is not to monitor a religion, but to monitor seditious and anti-freedom philosophies of the 'political' Islam. Regrets, but political Islam is hostile to our free way of life. We can never rest while it is around here. This is in no way a reflection on any person's personal beliefs, whether in Islam or any other religion, but only a focuss of concern on the political faith, such as preached by the mullahs of Islam, which is against our freedoms of our culture and society. This is now our burden, for having allowed political Islam to grow inside our borders. Our society of social freedoms is being made sick by the persistent agressiveness of a political force that would take away our freedoms. This political force of anti-freedom must be fought. Once freedom is lost, it is very difficult to regain it. Political Islam would take our freedoms away. There is no rest for a free people when freedom is being attacked. Ivan | ||
| Naive |
All peoples have a right to defend their beliefs. They just have to be mindful of how and where they do it! It is those who are reckless in the pursuit of their own agenda that have caused all this grief. Are we trying to infect the world with our "democracy". Obviously some societies function better with whatever previous forms of rule they had. The U.S. has tried to steal honey from the hornet's nest and now is complaining about being stung. We created this monster. There's no denying it. We must chastise our own government for threatening our freedoms. After reading here for the past months I have come to believe the complaint of those in the middle east is viable. Why do we support Israel's sovereignty and defend it with relentless intent? Why did we disturb the workings of Iraq? The answer isn't freedom I can tell you that (although our government want us to believe so). There is no doubt radical Muslims are wrong in their pursuits, but so too the West has meddled and enforced its will against that of others. Would we stand for a nation being created within our perceived borders? As Ivan state above, we would not. That's how Muslims apparently feel about the Israel situation. What's wrong with their response to a perceived threat? I challenge someone to explain how the current state of affairs is not the fault of an arrogant Western agenda and a not so surprising response from those who felt oppressed! Naive | ||
| Anon |
A point well taken Naive, The attempt to impose democracy on the Islamic Middle East is likely to be regregarded as one of the greatest failures of United States foreign policy in history. As can be seen from the postings here the people of Islam desire something other than demoncracy. In the green zone in Iraq, the leadership of the Iraqi reconstruction was choosen by the Bush administratstion based upon who shared the religous political beliefs of the president. Is it no wonder that this reconstruction effort to build a democracy failed? It is clear the people of Islam have not yet reached the point where they can embrace democracy or live in peace with their neighbors such as Isreal who they see as a threat to their continued existance. Isreal is a functioning democracy in a region that has no democracies. Its economy, sciences and technology far surpass that of its neighbors. For this reason it is hated by its neighbors with a passion that goes beyound measure. In terms of fault though it goes both ways. The Islamic people have given themselves over to hatred and built a social-political-religous machine that seeks to destroy Isreal and its people. Are the Isrealis and ourselves free from blaime? No but at this juncture we are faced with an enraged monster that is Islam. How to tame this monster and deal with the threat it poses is now the question. I and a host of researchers have calculated the costs of the Iraq war. It comes to roughly 8,000 US dollars for each man woman and child in the United States whose payments are spread over a period of 40 years. The total comes to about 1.2 trillion dollars. The total avaiable oil revenues from Iraq over the same period come to roughly 4 trillion dollars. Why did we go in? And what is the real agenda? In the great game cost verses profit is what it is all about. A 4 to 1 return on investment in this case. Ed | ||
| Anon |
In terms of Osama's plan what he and his allies are attempting to do is drive up the costs of doing buisness in the middle east and make it unprofitable for us to operate there. In terms of investment, cost verses cost, what the Islamic people have discovered is that the tactics techniques and procedures of terrorism is far more effective in battling western capitalistic demoncracy than any other form of combat. To the Islamic people the entire system we are trying to export to them is the problem. They reject it and are looking for something different. From a strategic perspective what Osama did was attack a symbol of western economic domination in attacking the World Trade center. This was the second major attack against it. Why was this target attacked and what was the reaction to the attack in the Middle East. It was selected for a number of reason's not the least of which was rejection of our capitalist democratic system. This the war that Al Qeada is waging against us. In going into Iraq we played into the militant islamics hands. It was golden prize in a game that Osama was playing along with a number of others. We walked in with insufficient forces to secure it. A cost verses benefit calculation by the United States that was exploited by AL Qeada. In this war Osama and his allies used our greed to trap us. Now they seek to break us financially by driving the costs of securing Iraq and our society from attacks up. These costs as Ivan points out, includes the monitoring of groups on our soil. Such is the nature of the strategy that Osama constructed and will long out live him and what we battle. Part of which will be a operation conducted by myself as I travel to South Africa first class. Demonstrating what is possible in our system for an individual to accomplish against all odds without violence and the nature of the opposition that exists to the President in the United States. Ed | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
Is God supportive of Muslim efforts, or not supportive? Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:41 am: Ivan The answer is found in the Tradition numbered 1514 of Al-Tirmidhi collection. Since it is not found in the Internet, it is quoted below: === Narrated Khabbab ibn al-Aratt Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) led us in prayer and prolonged it, and when the people said, "Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him), you have prayed a prayer such as you have not been accustomed to pray," he replied, "Yes, it was a prayer of hope and fear during which I asked Allah for three things, two of which He granted me but one of which He refused me. I asked Him not to destroy my people by famine and He granted me that, I asked Him not to let an enemy from another people rule over them and He granted me that, and I asked Him not to let them experience one another's violence but He refused me that." Tirmidhi and Nasa'i transmitted it. === God does not favor Muslims in their struggles with non-Muslims but to ensure that they would not be subjugated. This state of 'not getting subjugated' applies to all persons of conviction. A person of conviction would rather die than yield on the principle. By inference the sanction that the Muslims would not be subjugated implies they would not be wiped out. Where do we place the war-mongers among Muslims? Are they believers? I hope not. So in the struggle that is just beginning - the struggle between some Muslims who believe that Verse 256 of Chapter 2 is not abrogated and those who claim that it was indeed abrogated and that they could indulge in global conquest,- the believers in the currency of Verse 256 of Chapter 2 would prevail. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/02/06/president_reque sts_boost_for_ied_fund/ === The Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization -- which some lawmakers and defense analysts believe has wasted money and time -- has received $6.7 billion in taxpayer dollars since 2003, for the sole purpose of eliminating the threat of so-called improvised explosive devices. Insurgents plant the low-tech bombs along roads and detonate them with cell phones, remote control devices, and other commonly available items. The program has ballooned into a massive organization employing thousands of private contractors, and is based in a northern Virginia office complex where some of the largest defense industry firms have their Washington operations. Critics say the program relies too much on expensive, high-tech solutions -- developed by the defense industry -- to defeat a low-tech weapon instead of focusing on disrupting the so-called "kill chain" of explosives suppliers, bomb builders, and planters. === It requires humint to disrupt the "kill chain" which is not reliable. The humint from inside the war field given by the other population is always suspect as it would be tailored to their objectives and not ours. The criticism of the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization is wrong. Their high tech solutions have possibly forced the insurgents to use the lowest tech method of using wires to explode the IED. In contrast to other means of burying the IED, using the wires permits our boys and girls to spot the IEDs and remove them. Read about a success story in http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7085635 The success story is the second one under the title: Looking for Trouble: A Search for IEDs in Iraq === "Looks like we have a command wire about 5 meters off the road," the speaker says, "and the sun is reflecting off it." A command wire is a hair-thin, bare copper strand that only the sharpest eye can see. Insurgents use them in pairs to trigger an IED when they are not using a wireless device like a cell phone. So there may be another IED here. === The reflection of the sun by the trigger wire was detected by using high tech; the insurgents had been forced to use the wire as [- read elsewhere no time to locate the reference -] the scrambling of the communication between the cell phones permits voice transmission but not the command to explode an IED. Let us not criticize every thing. Let us hope that useful science gets supported. | ||
| Anon |
Very valid thoughts Mohideen. The fact that our capitalistic Jedeu/Christian democracy functions for our western societies does not mean that it is the solution for all societies. Both Europe and Isreal experienced long periods of exposure to the principles of the rule of law and basics of deomcracy from the Greeks and Romans. We share a common history that unites our cultures and religous/political views on the ordering of society. The people of Islam however, do not sure to the same degree the same historical events that shaped the political and cultural fabric that makes up western civilization. Given this it is not hard to understand the Islamic desire to form a political-cultural-religious based way of ordering their society that is different from the western tradition. In attempting to impose that system on the people of Islam we have met great resistance. People on both sides fight and die over what they believe is the right way of ordering a society. Can we impose our vision of society on the people of Islam? I very much doubt so. Can they impose their view on us I doubt so as well. The key question is can we each agree to coexist in peace? It is without a doubt that the Islamic people wish to live in a free society of some form that embraces the ideals of their faith, culture and traditions. It is eaually true however, that leaders who preach hatred and have built systems to instill hatred in their followers has gained dominion over large portions of the Islamic world. Osama is but one manefestation of this hatred given form. How to fight monsters such as Osama and the organizations within the Islamic world is what we need to focus on in the days and years to come. I truely hope that the people of Islam will find a way to order their societies in such a way as they can live in peace with their neighbors. It is with this hope in mind that I and the Alliance of Patriots aid and assist the student movements and resistence movements in the middle east that seek freedom from oppression and oppose terrorits such as the men that killed all of the innocent Iraqis in the Market a few days ago. It is for the right of those men, women and children to live in freedom and peace that the Alliance of Patriots uses all of its skills to perform predictive analysis of impending events. It is with great sadness that security in Iraq was not increased following our warning of the likelihood of a major attack following disruption of the attack by the Cult. The plan was simple, use a Shia cult to kill religous leaders and attack the holy city in Iraq, follow it with attacks and public beheading of Muslim soldiers in England, followed by a massive truck bomb against Shia in Bagdad, coupled to car bombs in the Kurdish area to increase friction with the Kurds and ethnic Turks. ALl of which was timed to coincide with the Shia holiday when passions were at their hieght. Such is the enemy of free men and women of all religons that we fight. That was Osama's/Al Qeada's plan, vile vicious and evil for all the world to see. Such is the nature of the man that I and the Alliance of Patriots fight. May you be well Ed | ||
| Ivan |
"War handicaps Reason" thread is closed, by request of the OP. This discussion continues in its succession here: http://www.humancafe.com/discus/messages/88/194.html?1170825594 Thanks for all your ideas, inputs, more valuable at times than we can know at the time. Others will come across these ideas by and by. Ivan |